The Perfect Storm Hurricane Sandy

[lovuian]

Anybody looking at the path of Tropical Storm Sandy?

http://landing.newsinc.com/shared/video.html?freewheel=69016&sitesection=csmonitor&VID=23856111

this could be pretty nasty stuff

[jpak]

1. yup

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021621126

[lovuian]

2. I was wondering thanks

Weather forecasters are keeping their eye on hurricane Sandy, which could potentially affect residents from Florida to northern New England.

Although the forecasters caution that the computer models are still divided over the future path of the storm, in a worst-case scenario the US will get hit with a storm that will be bring back memories of the “perfect storm” that hammered the US in Halloween 1991.

“The weather system could have some similarities to the perfect storm,” says Paul Walker, senior meteorologist at AccuWeather.com in State College, Pa. “I’m not quite sure if it will be that bad

[jpak]

3. The models have it landfalling in the Northeast Monday PM - Wed AM

People should be very concerned.

yup

[lovuian]

5. there are two directions it can go

one out to sea but the other is inland and they are talking hurricane force winds and possible snowfall

[jpak]

9. The GFS ensemble sez Maine

[Marrah_G]

13. That's making a beeline right for me

I live on the north shore of Mass, 2 blocks from the harbor ...lol

Joy....

Last year I was without power for a week from the august hurricane.

[lovuian]

25. A Billion dollar disaster It heads for the Bahamas next It is going Category 3 in a few hours OMG

"In this scenario, Sandy would be able to bring sustained winds near hurricane force over a wide stretch of heavily populated coast," he said.

Alternately, Masters said, some computer forecast models indicated Sandy had the potential to unleash "the heaviest October rains ever reported in the northeast U.S., Nova Scotia and New Brunswick."

Oravec said there could be tropical-storm to hurricane-force winds on the coast and added: "Coastal flooding will be a big concern."

A Category 2 storm has winds between 96 and 110 mph, meaning that Sandy was still within a whisker of becoming a Category 3 hurricane as it bore down on the Bahamas on Thursday.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/25/us-storm-sandy-hurricane-idUSBRE89N16J20121025

[Freddie]

8. Exactly a year after the Great Halloween Snowstorm

here in PA.
Will still stock up on candy, it won't go to waste

[Blue Belle]

36. It's important to stock up on provisions....

especially the kind with chocolate, nougat, and peanut putter.

[lovuian]

82. Government forecasters said there is a 90 percent chance — up from 60 percent two days earlier — tha

Government forecasters said there is a 90 percent chance — up from 60 percent two days earlier — that the East will get pounded.

"It's almost a weeklong, five-day, six-day event," he said from a NOAA forecast center in College Park, Md. "It's going to be a widespread, serious storm."

Bloomberg is asking for people to remain calm

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57540819/hurricane-sandy-forces-east-coast-to-brace-for-hit/

[kentauros]

85. It's hard to remain "calm"

with a big storm bearing down on you. Not to say that you're going nuts and panicking, but there is nervousness involved. Just try to keep calm enough to prepare for the worst, whether it happens or not.

I am curious if there's anything that people can do to ease the post-traumatic stress that goes along with living through disasters. I know it took me a while to get over Ike after it was gone. I don't ever want to go through a storm like it again.

[Grammy23]

93. After Ivan in 2004, I jumped every time the stove vent flapped.

It screamed and flapped all night long during the storm. For months after that, I would jump and react every time I heard that thing creak.

One thing that helps. Try to get enough rest. Do not stay up for 36-48 hours straight. We did that after Hurricane Frederick in 1979 and we hit the wall. Between getting ready, going through the storm and then assessing the damage, the hours went by fast but boy when we hit the limit, it was not pretty. So if you can sleep, try to get rest.

Have enough decent food on hand, too. You will get sick of eating sandwiches and junk food. It helps to have something besides Cheetos. If you have some way to store extra ice, you will be really glad to have a cold drink or two after you've been cleaning your yard all day. Generators help, but not everyone is so lucky to have one. Or the gas to run them.

Band together with your neighbors, even if you don't know them. Misery loves company, as they say. One thing we did with neighbors (who we DID know) was share food and supplies. We had some awesome meals in the first few days after Frederick. The food was thawing in the freezers without any power so we just had a great neighborhood bar-b-que. Chicken, shrimp, roasts, chops! Beats a cold sandwich any day.

[lovuian]

94. A Bottle of wine or a six pack of beer

I find helps too

[kentauros]

97. Yeah, but it's no fun getting drunk by yourself

(I have a low tolerance to alcohol; "drunk" for me is two beers )

While my cellphone still had a charge, I texted back and forth with my past-wife. She kept me calmer than I would have been without that connection

[kentauros]

96. We were lucky with Ike

in that we only lost power for 24 hours. The rest of the neighborhood was dark for three weeks, but our apartments are right on a power right-of-way and had a good connection to the grid.

With Alicia, we and the neighbors had plenty of BBQs for a week as everything thawed out. We also had two chainsaws, sledges, wedges and block and tackle equipment for taking trees down. We were quite busy for the weeks after taking trees off of neighbors houses. We were too exhausted to have stress

And the screaming wind from Ike was the worst I've heard. There's a short video and sound recording of it down in Galveston on YouTube. Don't watch it if the screeching wind gets to you. It still brings back those memories of the storm for me...

[lovuian]

99. Your right it was one stressful time

my neighbors roof collapsed on them in the middle of the night Almost every house had roof damage
Tree damage was immense
I wish those in the North many prayers for safety

[magical thyme]

98. Oh Joy.

The last model I saw show it headed more inland to the west of Vermont.

Now it's headed right over me. Midcoast Maine, roughly parallel with the southern tip of Nova Scotia. 3 miles in from the coast, I'm on a high ridge. Flooding not a concern, since my antique, fieldstone basement was designed to direct a little stream in the front, around some stones and out the back. Wind, on the other hand, A couple old maples and pine within striking distance.

And my backup direct vent propane heater has failed for 3 years running. I've gotten it "fixed" 2 summers in a row, only to have it fail when I needed it. Such as during last year's Oct. 30 storm that left us powerless with a 20 degree night. brrrrrr.

Happily just this morning I finally connected with a new propane company who has the parts and is coming out on Monday afternoon to fix it! This time, after they get it working I plan to leave it running just in case, lol! Dog I hate propane. So wish I had a woodstove....

[lovuian]

68. She is one big Storm

Residents in Ocean City, Md. and across the Delmarva Peninsula are closely watching Hurricane Sandy as it heads towards the Bahamas this evening and up the eastern seaboard in the days to come. Officials are already warning residents to be prepared and telling them not to panic.

Scientists and weather forecasters say computer-generated models show Hurricane Sandy is headed for the Delmarva Peninsula and the Mid-Atlantic region, and could hit Monday night with winds up to 90 miles per hour and massive storm surges likely to cause power outages, coastal flooding, and beach erosion.

Sandy has the potential to be a "billion dollar storm" according to some meteorologists, but many locals on the coast are expecting nothing more than a strong Nor'easter.

they say she is looking more and more like Irene
http://wamu.org/news/12/10/25/coastal_residents_getting_ready_for_hurricane_sandy?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+WAMU885LocalNewsPodcast+%28WAMU%3A+Local+News+Podcast%29

[MADem]

4. The tracks looked like pasta but they all were heading towards my ass on TV today!!!! nt

[kentauros]

61. All those extra paths are just multiple computer models.

The one to look at is in white, as that's the average of all the most likely paths.

Not a good time for this storm. I hope it doesn't turn out to be nearly as bad as predicted, nor that it interrupts voting.

[MADem]

62. Yeah, I'm hoping it fools us all and heads way east, or just finds a reason to poop out!

It's messed up my weekend--I got a ton of crap in the yard that needs "stowing" if the winds kick up.

[kentauros]

64. I know the feeling about "stowing stuff",

not to mention boarding up.

So, let's all hope that Sandy follows the path of Nadine: turning into a wandering storm out in the middle of the Atlantic, far away from anyone

[lovuian]

70. Wow now the news media is freaking out

http://video.foxnews.com/v/1924567390001/

I'm not one for fox news but this explains the potential damage
It explains the merging of two storms creating a mega storm effecting millions

I believe winds got up to Cat 3 then dropped to 2

“This could be historic,” Dean said

[kentauros]

75. The media freaks out even on the Gulf Coast!

This is kind of old, but parts of it are still pertinent and lets you have a little fun with the local news media:










I'd also suggest getting on the NHC site as well as Weather Underground. Stay safe!

[MadrasT]

86. That's awesome!

I'm going to substitute local stuff and play at home.

[kentauros]

87. Yes, it's a fun game

and you may get a Bingo within an hour!

I can just hear one of those "people preparing for the storm" reports, and that ubiquitous hammering of plywood

[lovuian]

6. we had a similiar thing happen in Texas

where the whole of Texas was on alert for evacuation ....I don't know how evacuation works up North
well I hope people prepare

[NutmegYankee]

17. Most of New England doesn't

The terrain is hilly and the land rises quickly from shore in most places. Unless you live right on the beach, the greater danger is inland flooding of narrow creeks/streams and river valleys. I'm only 7 miles inland, but hundreds of feet above sea level.

[lovuian]

18. ahhh that explains it

you will be looking for high winds Batten the Hatches

[NutmegYankee]

19. And in the state with the most trees in close proximity to homes.

That was part of the reason for our power outages last August and October. But the wind is nothing compared to tropical rains. And it's the rain I fear. It can raise the water table and flood basements and take out small bridges, closing the winding two lane roads that are main arteries in these parts.

[Jennicut]

37. And CT did cut down a lot of trees, especially in Simsbury.

They had a terrible time there because of all the trees on the power lines last year.

My husband may be pulling storm duty again as he works for Yankee Gas. Someone has to sit by the downed power lines.

Another Halloween ruined.

[NutmegYankee]

41. It may not work though (the cutting)

The trees still tower over the lines just ten feet back from the right of way. All it takes is one to fall on the main electrical trunk line along it's 5 mile run to me and I and the whole village are dark again.

For days...

[Jennicut]

46. I know. I am very worried.

My brother is in Lyme and lives at the end of a dirt road in the woods along Lake Uncus (near Roger's Lake). He was without power for days.
I think I am in a better spot, being in Terryville. Far away from the coast in Litchfield County.

[NutmegYankee]

53. I lost power for both storms last year in Montville.

I guess I'll ready the generator.

[lovuian]

7. A possible foot of snow

“This is a 50-year storm,” warns Henry Margusity, AccuWeather senior meteorologist. “I don’t think I’ve ever seen many of these areas get this kind of snow this early.”

[Bonhomme Richard]

16. We got 15" of snow from last Octobers storm. n/t

[WinkyDink]

10. I'll hope for snow, because it won't flood my yard like rain! ( Eastern PA here.)

[lovuian]

11. you be careful PA looks like its in for a rough time

this is too early for this kinda Mother Nature trick or treat

Perfect Storm 1991

[Renew Deal]

12. Landfall in New Hampshire!

Figure that one out

[Warpy]

14. Jamaican news sources report that

70% of the island is without power, so don't expect any updates from there very soon. Maybe tomorrow.

NOAA still has this one clipping Cuba and then going out to sea. While it would create an unwanted mess along the coast, October hurricanes are typically less powerful than those even a few weeks earlier. Water off New England is already getting very cold and that weakens them almost as much as going across land does.

Still, if I still lived on Cape Cod, I'd be watching it very closely. With only two bridges to the mainland, evacuation is often much more problematic than just staying put, in one of the schools if not at home.

[lovuian]

15. I heard a woman talking in Jamaica

and she was saying this Hurricane was unusual in the winds...Jamaica usually gets hit easternly but these winds came straight at Jamaica

[malaise]

44. Came from South to North - a first

and landed five miles from Kingston - even more unusual - our hurricanes come from East to West and skirt up the North or South ar very rarely right through the island - Gilbert, and a few tropical storms.

[malaise]

63. They're working really hard

We got our power back shortly after noon. Word is that about 45% of folks are still without power.

[lovuian]

69. At least its over for Jamaica and now recovery in the and yes this storm's winds are very different

It is in the Bahamas now

[malaise]

72. It's still raining here though

and that's very bad since the soil is beyond saturation - saw more than a few homes precariously balanced on the news earlier - they lost their retaining walls.
The best news is that that awful wind is gone.

[lovuian]

76. Malaise hang in there but the bad news is this storm is growing

look at the latest update

I don't know how long your going to get the rain bands
Its in the freakin Bahamas and your still getting rain
Anybody know how long Jamaica is getting hit with the rain bands?

[Warpy]

71. I'm glad you checked in and are OK.

I think Cuba got the worst it it so far but the projected track looks really nasty for NYC.

I'm glad I don't live in the northeast any more. This one could get ugly fast.

[malaise]

73. The Bahamians are gettiing the worst of it - it was Cat1

for Eastern Cuba. Haiti is still under the kosh with rain and so is DR.
So far Haiti has the most deaths (five - and that will go up), Cuba has three and we have one so far.

I hate how it's reorganizing - I am very worried for wherever it hits in the US and everything suggests that it is going to hit mainland USA.

We're fine - thanks

[lovuian]

77. Yep Bahamas took a direct hit

and with high winds
the weather people are freaked out at how fast it developed and turned inland
Glad your ok

[lovuian]

79. 21 dead from Sandy

Last edited Fri Oct 26, 2012, 04:57 PM - Edit history (2)

http://news.yahoo.com/hurricane-lashes-bahamas-21-deaths-elsewhere-014005716.html

Hurricane Sandy lashed the central Bahamas on Thursday night with violent winds and torrential rains, after raging through the Caribbean where it caused at least 21 deaths and forced postponement of a hearing at the Guantanamo naval base on Cuba.

State media in Cuba said Sandy toppled houses, ripped off roofs and killed 11 people in the eastern provinces of Santiago and Guantanamo as it roared over the island as a Category 2 storm early Thursday. Nine deaths were reported in Haiti and one in Jamaica.


Guantanamo sounds like it got hit

[malaise]

80. 21 deaths across the region

and yes Guantanamo took a big hit. The experts will explain what happened but I suspect that South to North track had something to do with the wind and even at Cat1 it was scary. We lost thousands of trees here in Jamaica and 70% of power.
Otherwise we were fairly lucky although there is serious damage in some places

[lovuian]

81. Update the News gets worst

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration said Friday that wherever the storm comes ashore, there will be 10 inches of rain and extreme storm surges. Up to 2 feet of snow should fall on West Virginia, with lighter snow in parts of Ohio and Pennsylvania.

"What we are doing is we are taking the kind of precautions you should expect us to do, and I don't think anyone should panic," New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg said Thursday.

Some have compared the tempest to the so-called Perfect Storm that struck off the coast of New England in 1991, but that one hit a less populated area.

"The Perfect Storm only did $200 million of damage and I'm thinking a billion" this time, Masters said. "Yeah, it will be worse."

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57540819/hurricane-sandy-forces-east-coast-to-brace-for-hit/

[Welcome_hubby]

88. Those deaths did not occur in the Bahamas

They were before it hit the Bahamas.

[lovuian]

90. Thanks Hubby I corrected my post Sandy taking an Unusual path

http://www.weather.com/news/weather-hurricanes/hurricane-unusual-northeast-track-20121024

Typically by late October, hurricanes forming in the central or western Atlantic Ocean have a good chance of "recurving", or being caught up in the polar jet stream, and turning away from the U.S. mainland. Those forming in the western Caribbean have a better chance of hitting the U.S. in late October, particularly Florida, as we saw 7 years ago with Hurricane Wilma.

However, as you can see above, the forecast models do not "recurve" Sandy, but offer a menacing track, turning the cyclone northwestward toward the U.S. East Coast.

[lovuian]

92. Hurricane Sandy kills 41 in Caribbean, targets U.S. Pictures of flooding horrendous

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/26/us-storm-sandy-hurricane-idUSBRE89N16J20121026

Reuters) - Hurricane Sandy, a late-season Atlantic storm unlike anything seen in more than two decades, slogged slowly toward the U.S. East Coast on Friday after killing at least 41 people as it cut across the Caribbean.

Forecasters said Sandy, with an expanding wind field already 550 miles wide, had begun merging with a polar air mass over the eastern United States, potentially spawning a hybrid "super storm" that could wreak havoc along the East Coast.

"Its structure is evolving as we speak because it's interacting with this weather feature at higher levels of the atmosphere," said Todd Kimberlain,

[silvershadow]

20. Winter Storm Hybrid Threatens New York, Delaware, Maine With Bad Weather

Could a Hurricane Sandy, winter storm hybrid worse than the "Perfect Storm" of 1991 slam the East Coast just in time to ruin both Halloween and Election Day?

Some meteorologists have grown increasingly concerned, as Hurricane Sandy made landfall Thursday in Cuba and already turned deadly in the Caribbean.

Politico asked on Wednesday if perhaps Hurricane Sandy would be "the next climate wake-up call" as climate change will cause storms to become increasingly intense. As for this storm, the potential timing with Election Day led ClimateSilence.org's Brad Johnson to remark, “Sandy is yet another reminder that the candidates should stop competing over who can poison the weather faster with increased oil, gas and coal production."



I guess we need to GOTV early on the east coast.

[lovuian]

21. latest update Sandy slams Cuba, could hit US as 'Nor'easter on steroids'

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/49546844/ns/weather/&ocid=ansmsnbc11

HAVANA — Hurricane Sandy, strengthening rapidly after crossing the warm Caribbean Sea, slammed into southeastern Cuba early Thursday with 110 mph winds that cut power, damaged homes and blew over trees across the city of Santiago de Cuba.

The storm has a 70 percent chance of smacking the Northeast and mid-Atlantic next week with gale-force winds, flooding, heavy rain and maybe even snow, forecasters said.

"It could be a Nor'easter on steroids," National Weather Service meteorologist Robert Thompson told NBC station WHDH-TV in Boston. Nor'easters are powerful storms that come up offshore along the East Coast from the south and then increase in volatility with winds from the northeast.

[lovuian]

22. Looks like Washington DC is in for a rough ride

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26295161/ns/weather/t/storm-tracker/

[socialaidem]

35. Every time a dot got closer I kept saying "No! NO! no! NO!!!!!!"

[Digit]

59. Yep, if I was still living up there I would be preparing for my basement to flood

The water table would rise with the torrential rains and water would always find a way in.
I do not miss those days!

Hope everyone fares okay.

[greytdemocrat]

23. Yes...

One landfall could be central NJ and my sis lives there. She had no idea a powerful storm MIGHT be on her doorstep next week. Just called her to let her know.

[lovuian]

24. Did you tell her it is a Category 2 Hurricane now

I'm appalled at the Media ...they are not covering this dangerous storm
I know you Easterners don't evacuate usually but electricity is going to be out everywhere

anybody who really needs electricity should be thinking about this storm

[WilliamPitt]

28. The local Boston media is all over it

...in their typical understated style.

"OH MY GOD IT'S COMING YOU BETTER STRAP YOUR DICK TO YOUR LEG CUZ WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!"

[lovuian]

29. Baaawaaahaaaa

that was great Will
Here is the projected path path
?w=600

[graywarrior]

43. No one in Georgetown gives a shit

They've been all at the range shooting guns

[Posteritatis]

45. Gotta love local weather forecasts

I heard "periods of snow overnight changing to oh god tell my wife I love her" a few years back in my neck of the woods.

[WilliamPitt]

48. "periods of snow overnight changing to oh god tell my wife I love her"

made me laugh out loud.

[Panasonic]

50. You mean staple, don't you? :P

[greytdemocrat]

30. Yeah.

Gave her the addy of weather underground and told her and her hubby to watch this one.

Their house is near the coast and has a lot of trees on the lot.

[mainer]

26. Oh my. Scheduled to fly out of Maine Weds AM.

Looks like I'm not going anywhere.

[lovuian]

31. Can you call and see if you can get out earlier

http://www.trbimg.com/img-50896d49/turbine/la-na-nn-hurricane-sandy-new-england-superstor-001/600



What you get is possibly destructive vortex that could spread drenching rains, wind damage, power outages and road closures across the mid-Atlantic and Northeast by Halloween. The full moon will lift coastal tides, magnifying the damage.

Cisco said "Frankenstorm," like Frankenstein, may be hard to kill.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-hurricane-sandy-new-england-superstorm-20121025,0,5739029.story?track=rss

[mainer]

40. Wow, just checked. Earlier flights fully booked. Looks like everyone's trying to get out ahead.

I think I'm just going to have to hope for the best.

[WilliamPitt]

27. Headed right for my face.

Ugh.

[lovuian]

32. Here is Boston CBS ...they seem unsure

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2012/10/24/hurricane-sandy-new-england-likely-to-feel-some-effects/

LATEST FORECAST

The likelihood of New England feeling some effects from Sandy is increasing.

While most models still do not show a direct hit, more and more are agreeing that Sandy will have no escape route in the Northern Atlantic. Another large storm will block the road for Sandy, stopping it from just flying by New England out to sea. This may cause Sandy to retrograde, or back up towards our coastline. It could just be a small piece or the entire storm in some fashion moving backwards (from East to West). This could come in the form of a strong band of rain and wind lasting for several hours or something much more significant.

While Sandy will likely lose its tropical characteristics by the time it gets this far north, it will still be just as dangerous.


yesterday had the possibility it was going out to see ...it looks like this other storm is going to pull Sandy to the American coastline

[trumad]

33. stock up on the Jamesons.

[SoCalDem]

38. turn the other cheek

or better yet..high-tail it inland...

[Jennicut]

39. Yup.

Headed for us in New England. Start stocking up on stuff before everyone goes nuts and all the bread is gone. My brother is right on the coast in Lyme, Connecticut. In the middle of the woods along a lake. At least he has a generator.

[Liberalynn]

34. I follow my favorite local weatherman on twitter

cause he is normally a calm one, and accurate too.

Well now I am nervous. He just tweeted: "Major concerns about "Sandy". "Lots of wind, but tremendous amts of rain, possible for ROC. Over 5 daysf 4-6" of rain?" Glen Johnson, WHAM News, Rochester NY.

[Panasonic]

51. Geez, and I thought the '94 storm up in Rochester was bad

Even RIT classes was cancelled for two days - so shortly after I landed in Rochester airport, the big storm hit.

I remember the Blizzard of '83 in Colorado, and that - and never seen a storm dump so much snow...

Oh yeah, forgot about the Blizzard of '03, now that was the second highest amount of snow in Denver's recorded history at 31.8 inches, cost Denver over 33 million to clean up.

Oy.

[malaise]

42. Yep - we took the first hit

[oneshooter]

47. "Just a little wind and some rain. Nothin to worry about."

I live on the Gulf Coast and hear that every year from people who have never been thru one.

[underseasurveyor]

49. Hurricane Sandy is not real and does not exist.

Or so this moron claims.

"PATRICK MURRAY says:This is another example of Democrats' attempts to push their extreme environmental agenda. There are many meteorologists who deny that this storm exists or that the billions in losses that the naysayers claim it will cause is a result of human activity. By sowing fear in the minds of people up and down the East Coast, the "eco-anarchists" hope to convince people to put their lives in the hands of the government FEMA bureaucracy and, eventually, under UN control. But right-minded Americans know that this storm is not real and won't be fooled by Mr. Obama's extremist agenda."

http://www.cbsnews.com/8618-201_162-57540360.html?assetTypeId=41&messageId=13130046&tag=postComments;commentWrapper

[kentauros]

57. He should have himself a hurricane party,

Camille style...

[AverageJoe90]

58. This may actually be a boon for the Prez, believe it or not.

It may seem like a problem for both sides, but when you factor in the fact that the Republicans have continually demanded cuts to disaster aid in the area, and, of course, incredibly stupid statements like the one made by this Patrick Murray fellow......let's just say that this could actually be yet another thing that hammers another nail into the coffin of the RMoney/Lyin' campaign.

[countryjake]

89. Don't know if I'd call it a boon, but funding cuts to NOAA satellites...

may actually prove disastrous for the idiotic slash-and-burn rethugs, and also for many whose safety depends on the awareness and alerts that the NOAA tracking satellites provide.


GOP Budget Cuts Would Devastate Hurricane And Weather Forecasting

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2012/08/29/767511/gop-budget-cuts-would-devestate-hurricane-and-weather-forecasting/

When Republicans retook the U.S. House of Representatives in 2010, they made deep cuts in the President Barack Obama’s 2011 request for the Polar Joint Satellite System, a system of new satellites needed to replace the old ones, which currently provide 85 percent of the data used in hurricane forecasting. House Republicans proposed further deep cuts in the program in fiscal year 2012.

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration Director Jane Lubchenco called the cuts “insanity.” She said that failure to fund the satellites would create a significant gap between the time the existing satellites failed and the new system became serviceable. Lubchenco said that the gap would be like “going backwards in 20 years’ time” in hurricane forecasting.



Blakley: Spare NOAA satellites

http://www.statesman.com/news/news/opinion/blakley-spare-noaa-satellites-1/nRNL7/

It's hard to imagine a less opportune time to cut funding for weather forecasting. Yet, that is exactly what will happen unless Congress repeals mandatory budget cuts scheduled to hit federal programs in 2013. These "sequestration" cuts include a $182 million reduction for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration weather satellite program, putting at risk the very weather satellites that provide lifesaving severe-weather warnings.

With this devastating cut, development of a new generation of weather satellites will be delayed, risking an increase of what is already projected to be at least a 17-month gap in critical polar-orbiting weather satellite coverage beginning in 2017. National Weather Service forecast models get 85 percent of their data from polar-orbiting NOAA weather satellites. Without this data, weather predictions may wildly miss the mark...


We can't afford to let budget cuts take weather forecasting back to the Dark Ages. NOAA satellites save lives and money at a time when our weather is becoming more and more volatile. Congress and the President should avoid these penny-wise, pound-foolish budget cuts, and work to ensure that citizens and communities continue to receive the accurate weather forecasts they've come to count on.


GOP cut crucial weather satellites with fierce hurricane season looming
from Climate Progress by Joe Romm on May 23, 2011

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2011/05/23/208154/gop-cut-crucial-weather-satellites-with-fierce-hurricane-season-looming/?mobile=nc

Earlier this year, Congressional Republicans decided accurate weather forecasting and hurricane tracking were services the American people could live without. The GOP-sponsored 2011 spending bill slashed the budget for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, slashing $700 million targeted for an overhaul of the nation’s aging environmental satellite system. NOAA scientists have stated unequivocally the existing satellites will fail and if they aren’t replaced, the agency’s ability to provide life-saving information to the American people will be compromised. Jane Lubchenco, NOAA administrator, told reporters yesterday that the agency’s hurricane outlook last year was “spot-on” and cautioned that “not having satellites and applying their latest capabilities could spell disaster“

[AverageJoe90]

91. Well, again.

Because the President can easily point to the fact that the Republicans are the ones who ordered the funding cuts, and this could prove to be especially bad for Romney if Sandy causes enough damage up north, because Obama's been on the offensive ever since the Denver fiasco, and he's throwing every punch he can at Romney.

So, basically, I think we're in agreement here.

[kentauros]

52. Nadine was the "Perfect Storm"

because it never made continental landfall. Second-longest-lived tropical storm ever!

Dr. Jeff Masters had some funny comments about Nadine over the course of her wandering life. It's worth finding them all to read

[malaise]

56. Nadine was one tough lady

she must have annoyed a lot of fish

[kentauros]

60. She did annoy the Azores

by hitting them twice! I don't know what kind of damage they had, only that I think it was minor, which is good

[malaise]

65. Didn't hear or see a report re the Azores

[kentauros]

67. I sometimes read Dr. Masters' blog

and he covered Nadine extensively.

Here's her story:

Tropical Depression 14 forms
Tropical Storm Nadine forms
Atlantic tropical update
Atlantic tropical update
Hurricane Nadine headed towards the Azores Islands
Nadine may be around another week
Nadine approaching the Azores
Tropical Storm Nadine brushing the Azores
Nadine brushing the Azores
Nadine goes extratropical
Nadine is back
Pesky Nadine still out there
Persistent Nadine still out there
Except for Nadine, the Atlantic is quiet
Nadine enters its 15th day of life
Nadine a hurricane again
Nadine still a hurricane
End in sight for Nadine
Nadine "The Methuselah of Atlantic tropical storms"
Nadine touring the Azores Islands--again
You only die twice: Atlantic's 2nd longest TS of all-time is dead - "The interminable, long-lived, pesky, persistent, perpetual, never-say-day, tenacious, non-stop, I'm-not-dead-yet, Energizer-bunny-like Methuselah of Atlantic tropical cyclones, Tropical Storm Nadine, finally met its permanent doom this morning, but not before bringing tropical storm conditions to the northwest Azores Islands."
I love his comments!

[malaise]

74. OH I read him as well and was facinated that Nadine

kept going and going but didn't read about the Azores.
Thanks for the links

[kentauros]

78. You're welcome :)

I had fun rereading some of his quips about Nadine. Sandy is likely too close to the continent to end up as a wandering storm, so I hope everyone stays safe. Always be prepared, y'all!

[UnrepentantLiberal]

54. Jersey City here.

Bring it on!

Hurricane Sandy may slam into U.S. East Coast as Halloween week "Frankenstorm"



CBS News
October 25, 2012

An unusual nasty mix of a hurricane and a winter storm that forecasters are now calling "Frankenstorm" is likely to blast most of the East Coast next week, focusing the worst of its weather mayhem around New York City and New Jersey.

U.S. government forecasters on Thursday upped the odds of a major weather mess, now saying there's a 90 percent chance that the East will get steady gale-force winds, heavy rain, flooding and maybe snow starting Sunday and stretching past Halloween on Wednesday. Meteorologists say it is likely to cause $1 billion in damages.

The storm is a mix of Hurricane Sandy, now in the Caribbean as a Category 2 storm, as well as an early winter storm in the West and a blast of arctic air from the North. They're predicted to collide and park over the country's most populous coastal corridor and reach as far inland as Ohio.

The hurricane part of the storm is likely to come ashore somewhere in New Jersey on Tuesday morning, said National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration forecaster Jim Cisco. But this is a storm that will affect a far wider area, so people all along the East have to be wary, Cisco said.

More: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57540360/hurricane-sandy-may-slam-into-u.s-east-coast-as-halloween-week-frankenstorm/

[sarcasmo]

55. Frankenstorm.

[lovuian]

84. Spacestation picture of Sandy

?

[lovuian]

66. Sandy lashes on Bahamas

http://www.seattlepi.com/news/world/article/Hurricane-Sandy-lashes-Bahamas-with-wind-and-rain-3976086.php#photo-3635392

Hurricane Sandy lashed the central Bahamas on Thursday night with violent winds and torrential rains after slashing across eastern Cuba, where it ripped off roofs and forced postponement of a hearing at the Guantanamo naval base but caused no reported deaths.

The sprawling Category 2 hurricane killed 10 people elsewhere in the Caribbean: nine in Haiti and one in Jamaica. Haiti's count rose throughout the day as new confirmations of deaths came to the civil protection office from different sections of the country.

Meanwhile, forecasters warned that Sandy will likely blend with a winter storm to cause a super storm in the eastern U.S. next week whose effects will be felt along the entire Atlantic Coast from Florida to Maine and inland to Ohio.

[lovuian]

83. Folks there is a 90% chance this is going to hit the East Coast

you need to prepare for electricity to be out and get safe
Good news it is down to Category 1 Hurricane

Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo said on Thursday he is directing the state Division of Homeland Security and Emergency Services "to closely monitor the progress of Hurricane Sandy and prepare for potential storm impacts."

"I urge all New Yorkers to closely track the storm's path, using local radio and television or online reports," Cuomo said in a statement. "We will actively monitor the storm's progress and take any steps necessary to protect our state's residents."

http://www.newsday.com/news/weather/very-large-powerful-hurricane-sandy-in-weekend-forecast-1.4157206
It is a rainmaker .....it will still be a hurricane when it makes landfall winds 80mph

[lovuian]

95. The Obama campaign said it was closely monitoring the storm.

The Democratic incumbent was traveling to New Hampshire on Saturday and on Monday was due to visit Youngstown, Ohio, and Orlando, Florida

An aide to Republican presidential challenger Mitt Romney said he had canceled a campaign event scheduled for Sunday night in Virginia Beach, Virginia. The Obama campaign said it was closely monitoring the storm.

One storm-related death was reported in the Bahamas. Police said it was under investigation, but it occurred in Lyford Cay, a wealthy enclave of New Providence island that is home to the likes of actor Sean Connery, hedge fund billionaire Louis Bacon and Canadian fashion mogul Peter Nygard.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/26/us-storm-sandy-hurricane-idUSBRE89N16J20121026

[lovuian]

100. Update for today Sandy will affect area for four days and warm water over North Carolina

http://www.boston.com/news/weather/weather_wisdom/2012/10/sandy_moves_slowly_north_milli.html

Boston news for Will
Sandy is once again a hurricane as of mid-morning. Whether this gets called a strong tropical storm or a minimal hurricane the next couple days is less important than the size of the storm. Although Sandy is losing some of its tropical characteristics it will continue to be a very large storm. There have been reports of 60 mile per hour winds some 300 miles from the center of the storm. Sandy will also gain energy from the jet stream and may get some more as it moves over warmer water later in the weekend. You can see from the map below that the water off the coast of North Carolina is very warm and this will help energize the storm. Normally, tropical systems are very compact and affect areas under 100 miles from the center. Sandy is transitioning into a hybrid storm that is part tropical and part like a nor'easter. When it hits the coast next week, it will have the size of winter storm covering hundreds of miles and the strength of a minimal hurricane


the warm water is going to give it energy

[lovuian]

101. The Storm has intensified to 75 MPH winds and Florida is seeing 5 to 10 foot waves

Air Force hurricane hunters have been out flying in and around the storm and they found that it's reintensified and it's gotten back to a hurricane with peek winds of about 75 miles per hour," said Chris Lancey, a meteorologist with the National Hurricane Center.

Today, the storm is pounding Florida beaches with 5- to 10-foot waves and is easily visible from space, stretching hundreds of miles across.

But soon, Sandy will meet up with a cold front in the northwest and a high pressure system from Greenland, fueling it with enough energy to make it more powerful than the "Perfect Storm" from 1991, Hurricane Grace, some meteorologists say.



MORE POWERFUL than 1991

[lovuian]

102. Conneticutt Governor quote shocks me

"Be forewarned," Connecticut Gov. Dannel P. Malloy. "Assume that you will be in the midst of flooding conditions, the likes of which you may not have seen at any of the major storms that have occurred over the last 30 years."

http://abcnews.go.com/US/hurricane-sandy-east-coast-braces-superstorm/story?id=17578128#.UIvwiYYqg_o

[lovuian]

103. Right Weather - Six reasons why Hurricane Sandy scares me

Right Weather - Six reasons why Hurricane Sandy scares me

just keeping track and people be prepared