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NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 04:45 PM Dec 2021

Should unvaxed people be allowed admission into the hospital for covid?









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Should unvaxed people be allowed admission into the hospital for covid? (Original Post) NightWatcher Dec 2021 OP
They shouldn't be treated in a hospital for anything. RB TexLa Dec 2021 #1
Back of the line if they need an ICU. Booted off if vaxxed patient shows up. Pobeka Dec 2021 #2
That's exactly what I think. Haggard Celine Dec 2021 #5
+1 Maru Kitteh Dec 2021 #6
There should be space set aside for other non-covid emergency cases Bettie Dec 2021 #3
Suppose we made a rule like that. Then suppose Trump gets elected in 2024. Jim__ Dec 2021 #4
ZERO Chance That Happens In America SoCalDavidS Dec 2021 #7
Should hospitals have expanded, rather than shuttered? leftstreet Dec 2021 #8
Agreed greenjar_01 Dec 2021 #11
Very nicely stated leftstreet Dec 2021 #12
Vaccines should be a required part of health insurance bucolic_frolic Dec 2021 #9
I've changed my mind on this again: yes, help everybody that we can greenjar_01 Dec 2021 #10
I'm really glad I don't have to make this decision. Scrivener7 Dec 2021 #13
Same. Thats why I tried to make this OP without any spin. NightWatcher Dec 2021 #15
Me too. Scrivener7 Dec 2021 #23
We need vaccine passports and to exclude/shun assholes who refuse to be vaccinated LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2021 #14
Yes if beds are available. No if beds are full, assuming they are unvaccinated by choice. LonePirate Dec 2021 #16
I picked other MustLoveBeagles Dec 2021 #17
i said yes but there should be conditions........ Takket Dec 2021 #18
Yes. My god, that it's a question. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #19
They should first go down to the local feed store louslobbs Dec 2021 #20
Of course they should be treated madville Dec 2021 #21
Smokers with lung cancer? egduj Dec 2021 #22
I think if you have not had at least one shot... LiberatedUSA Dec 2021 #24
Unvaxed people should not be allowed in hospitals, period NameAlreadyTaken Dec 2021 #25
Sure, admit them... 2naSalit Dec 2021 #26
YES. Many people knowingly do stupid/risky things that land them in the hospital and we treat them. sciencescience Dec 2021 #27
No. Open field hospitals if need be. AngryOldDem Dec 2021 #28
Yes, but.. mvd Dec 2021 #29
Should stupid people be treated in hospitals? Sympthsical Dec 2021 #30
Britain is setting up field hospitals. roamer65 Dec 2021 #31
Oh hell no! oasis Dec 2021 #32
See: Hippocratic Oath nt EX500rider Dec 2021 #33
they should be deported from the country cadoman Dec 2021 #34

Bettie

(16,132 posts)
3. There should be space set aside for other non-covid emergency cases
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 04:50 PM
Dec 2021

so that others (car accidents, heart attacks) can be cared for as well.

I don't know, but a person with an unrelated condition shouldn't have to die because of anti-vaxxers.

Jim__

(14,089 posts)
4. Suppose we made a rule like that. Then suppose Trump gets elected in 2024.
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 04:52 PM
Dec 2021

I know if Trump gets back in power in 2024, we are in for a disaster. But what type of blow-back do you think there would be if we implemented rules that blocked some people from being admitted to hospitals?

leftstreet

(36,117 posts)
8. Should hospitals have expanded, rather than shuttered?
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 05:00 PM
Dec 2021

Mergers, closures, investor profits...

Seeing moral purity tests that ignore planned for-profit scarcity on DU is just cringe

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
11. Agreed
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 05:02 PM
Dec 2021

Part of the problem of hospital capacity is the destruction of the community-serving hospital in favor of profit. In some ways, we're attacking the very victims of those structural changes. Help everybody.

bucolic_frolic

(43,366 posts)
9. Vaccines should be a required part of health insurance
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 05:01 PM
Dec 2021

just like collision, no collision. You aren't covered, no delivery of services. Vaccines here should be mandatory.

Look at it this way. So many people for so long, without health insurance. Were they covered? No. They were last in line, seeking discounts, cancellations, being routed to other hospitals. No Medicaid? Too bad. Next!

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
15. Same. Thats why I tried to make this OP without any spin.
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 05:12 PM
Dec 2021

My position changes on this issue from day to day and hour to hour sometimes. I'm worn out.

MustLoveBeagles

(11,658 posts)
17. I picked other
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 05:20 PM
Dec 2021

Unvaccinated children should still be admitted with appropriate precautions taken as they're at the mercy of their parents and may not be unvaccinated by choice. The adults could be treated in field tents so they don't overwhelm the hospitals or they can stay home and eat horse paste.

Takket

(21,646 posts)
18. i said yes but there should be conditions........
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 05:26 PM
Dec 2021

they should be the first ones triaged out to make way if there is a vaxxed person who is sick and no bed for them (medical ethics demand in triage situations that you maximize survival.) same for any other condition.

any person admitted for covid, vaxxed or not, should have to sign a waiver that clearly states the hospital's treatment regimen for covid and that hydroxy/invermectin are not approved treatments and will not be administered. anyone who refuses to agree to those terms because they want a quack cure should be sent home to die.


louslobbs

(3,238 posts)
20. They should first go down to the local feed store
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 05:29 PM
Dec 2021

to pick up a 25 gallon drum of Roger Stones Magical Miracle Horse Paste (high pressure enema pumping hose sold separately) and while driving to the grocery store, insert pressure hose into Anus and fill lower bowel with 1gallon of Roger Stones Magical Miracle Horse Paste. At the grocery store, they should pick up 66lbs of TRUMPS Flash Frozen TOTS and PEARS. Before retiring to bed, they should shove a large hydroxychloroquine suppository deep into their rectum while slowly sipping a piping hot cup of off brand bleach. If still alive in the morning, they should attend church services and repeat until their story appears on sorryantivaxxer.com. Under no circumstances, should they now trust science and medicine, and endeavor to enter a hospital emergency room for treatment. If all else fails and should they continue to barely breathe, they should use their last breath’s to call Mar a Lago Club, Palm Beach, for further instructions.

madville

(7,412 posts)
21. Of course they should be treated
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 05:36 PM
Dec 2021

There is a very vocal minority here that has developed an alternate reality where they believe all the unvaccinated are Trump supporting rednecks.

The reality is that in places like here in FL, the least vaccinated population is Black people, with around 55% vaccinated. Are they really suggesting that, say here in Jacksonville where there is a large Black population, that the hospitals refuse the unvaccinated ones service by the hundreds or thousands? And also remember that Black people are disproportionately afflicted with COVID risk factors such as obesity, heart disease, diabetes, etc.

egduj

(807 posts)
22. Smokers with lung cancer?
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 05:40 PM
Dec 2021

Alcoholics with liver failure? Addicts who OD? Accident victims who weren't wearing a seatbelt?

I think we can go on all night.

 

LiberatedUSA

(1,666 posts)
24. I think if you have not had at least one shot...
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 05:42 PM
Dec 2021

…dated before you got sick, you should be turned away unless there is a surplus of beds; which does not exist right now.

Edit:

Turned away for Covid reasons. Not turned away for anything else. Covid takes beds from people who need them for other reasons.

NameAlreadyTaken

(982 posts)
25. Unvaxed people should not be allowed in hospitals, period
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 05:45 PM
Dec 2021

If other indoor facilities can require proof of vaccination to enter, hospitals should be able to require it too. Unvaccinated people pose a risk to everyone in the building.

2naSalit

(86,850 posts)
26. Sure, admit them...
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 08:31 PM
Dec 2021

However, Upon admission they must sign agreement to follow medical protocols and treatment plans. If they start insisting on stupid shit remedies, send their asses home so they can treat themselves and die there.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
28. No. Open field hospitals if need be.
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 09:53 PM
Dec 2021

Exercise strict triage. If it came down to giving a bed to a stroke patient or to someone who’s been willfully ignorant (or just plain ignorant), I know my choice.

They have to live (or not, as the case may be) with the consequences of their actions. Sounds harsh, but I’ve been done with these assclowns for a long while now. No sympathy here anymore.




mvd

(65,180 posts)
29. Yes, but..
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 10:05 PM
Dec 2021

I sure wish the vaccinated would get first preference. Ethically, though, the sickest should be treated first.

Sympthsical

(9,132 posts)
30. Should stupid people be treated in hospitals?
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 10:09 PM
Dec 2021

If they've done something wildly idiotic to land them there? Apparently not.

Well, that will clear up a lot of beds, even before Covid.

I can't decide if I'm enjoying watching everyone's moral compass careen out of control because of politics.

It's interesting, though.

cadoman

(792 posts)
34. they should be deported from the country
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 12:52 AM
Dec 2021

And an immigrant who appreciates what they get here and our rules should take the place of that trash.

Denying unvaxxed trash medical access that they've already essentially waived is ridiculous.

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