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Omaha Steve

(99,706 posts)
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 05:55 PM Oct 2012

Burma signs deal to recover 60 buried WWII Spitfires (Still in Their Shipping Crates) link


By request use this link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/18/spitfire-wwii-fighter-plane-myanmar_n_1978923.html




Sixty Brand New Spitfires – Still in Their Shipping Crates – Buried in Burma All of These Years


[Editors Note: This is a dream come true for old plane rebuilders, to have so many of these with all original parts. Air shows of the future could have squadrons of Spitfires buzzing the field...Jim W. Dean]

WORLD NEWS TOMORROW – Back in April we wrote about a whole bunch of lost World War II Spitfires and the incredible persistence of David Cundall, a British farmer and aviation enthusiast. He has fought for years to win approval to uncover these buried treasures.

Now, 16 years, 12 trips to Burma and over $200,000 later — Cundall and the Burmese government have finally reached an agreement that could allow excavation to begin as early as this month. Htoo Htoo Zaw, the managing director of Cundall’s recovery company Shwe Taung Paw, told Fox News:

“It took 16 years for Mr. David Cundall to locate the planes buried in crates. We estimate that there are at least 60 Spitfires buried and they are in good condition… This will be the largest number of Spitfires in the world. We want to let people see those historic fighters, and the excavation of these fighter planes will further strengthen relations between Burma and Britain.”

You’ll recall from Evan’s post that the Supermarine Spitfire is a very rare, beautiful aircraft of which around 20,000 were produced from 1938 to ’48.

FULL story at link.

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Burma signs deal to recover 60 buried WWII Spitfires (Still in Their Shipping Crates) link (Original Post) Omaha Steve Oct 2012 OP
This is a historical and financial gold mine. These planes and their pilots saved England in WWII. geckosfeet Oct 2012 #1
hurricanes were actually more instrumental loli phabay Oct 2012 #24
Lets just say that both planes played pivotal roles, and the Battle of Briton would likely have been geckosfeet Oct 2012 #31
I'd forgotten about this story! Cooley Hurd Oct 2012 #2
If they weren't crushed by bulldozers during burial... HooptieWagon Oct 2012 #6
um, am I blind or is there no link? I'd love to read more.....nt navarth Oct 2012 #3
You forgot the link. HooptieWagon Oct 2012 #4
Fascinating! Thanks for the link. Whovian Oct 2012 #5
Woo Hoo!!! PD Turk Oct 2012 #7
200,000 dollars initial investment Confusious Oct 2012 #8
awesome planes, saw lots of em in England in the early 60's battle of britain re-creations nt msongs Oct 2012 #9
very kool Angry Dragon Oct 2012 #10
One of the most beautiful planes ever designed aint_no_life_nowhere Oct 2012 #11
Very beautiful... Cooley Hurd Oct 2012 #12
I guess it's a matter of taste aint_no_life_nowhere Oct 2012 #13
I always liked the f4u corsiar myself Confusious Oct 2012 #16
Black Sheep Squadron... Cooley Hurd Oct 2012 #17
Actually, I had behavior problems at that age Confusious Oct 2012 #22
When I was in grade school, I used to pretend that I was a fighter pilot when I was neverforget Oct 2012 #30
And a Mustang'd never be a Mustang without the Merlin. Octafish Oct 2012 #14
Horsepower and high-alt performance. Cooley Hurd Oct 2012 #18
Yep PD Turk Oct 2012 #23
And a Mustang ain't a T-Bolt!!! oneshooter Oct 2012 #25
Love the Jug! Cooley Hurd Oct 2012 #26
Heya Steve. Just so you're aware, Veterans Today is run by Gordon Duff... SidDithers Oct 2012 #15
Good eye Sid... Cooley Hurd Oct 2012 #20
Much better... SidDithers Oct 2012 #21
I want one. I don't know why, but I do. I can't fly. My driveway is full of cars. I just want one. HopeHoops Oct 2012 #19
Never see one of those birds in the states. oneshooter Oct 2012 #27
I've had a few flyovers that looked like them. We also get biplanes. And a SHITLOAD of C-130s. HopeHoops Oct 2012 #28
Not so marked50 Oct 2012 #36
"complete" military vehicles Confusious Oct 2012 #37
C'mon, Steve. Change your link... SidDithers Oct 2012 #29
Done Omaha Steve Oct 2012 #34
Thank you!... SidDithers Oct 2012 #35
I had to read the subject line 3 times. Thought you meant Burma Shave signs Hamlette Oct 2012 #32
I know it's kind of nerdy, but this is so cool! K&R Egalitarian Thug Oct 2012 #33

geckosfeet

(9,644 posts)
31. Lets just say that both planes played pivotal roles, and the Battle of Briton would likely have been
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 08:26 PM
Oct 2012

lost without one or the other.

Granted Hurricanes were mechanically simpler, easier to repair and faster to service, but the Spitfire could fly higher and faster. Later production Spitfires had speeds of over 400mph. Always one of favorites.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
6. If they weren't crushed by bulldozers during burial...
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 06:09 PM
Oct 2012

...they should be restorable. Even if badly crushed, there should be usable parts, and the engines should be rebuildable.

Confusious

(8,317 posts)
8. 200,000 dollars initial investment
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 06:16 PM
Oct 2012

If he gets half of them working, that would be 96 million dollars at 3.2 million apiece.

If he donates half of that, not a bad deal still.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
13. I guess it's a matter of taste
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 06:30 PM
Oct 2012

Last edited Mon Oct 22, 2012, 08:21 PM - Edit history (1)

I never did think the Mustang had the same beautiful fine lines as the Spitfire, but it was one hell of an airplane.

Confusious

(8,317 posts)
22. Actually, I had behavior problems at that age
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 07:04 PM
Oct 2012

So my teacher, Mr. Stoops, who was a really good artist, said he'd draw a picture if I controlled myself.

I did, and he drew a picture of a corsair coming off a carrier.

Now I have a love of corsairs, and an overactive personal control problem ( ie. never loose control, so when I drink, I can't get drunk, I immediately start barfing at that point. Don't like drugs, they make you loose control.)

neverforget

(9,436 posts)
30. When I was in grade school, I used to pretend that I was a fighter pilot when I was
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 08:23 PM
Oct 2012

on a swing. Specifically, I was with Black Sheep Squadron. Loved that show!

PD Turk

(1,289 posts)
23. Yep
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 07:08 PM
Oct 2012

The original Allison engine version of the Mustang performed very well at lower altitudes but when they added the Merlin it extended the service ceiling all the way up to 40,000 feet iirc.

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
15. Heya Steve. Just so you're aware, Veterans Today is run by Gordon Duff...
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 06:37 PM
Oct 2012

an anti-Semitic, holocaust denier, conspiracist who lives way, way, way out there in crazy-land.

Would you please consider editing your post to link to some other news outlet carrying the same story? I hate the thought of DU sending any traffic to that asshat.

Cheers,
Sid

 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
19. I want one. I don't know why, but I do. I can't fly. My driveway is full of cars. I just want one.
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 06:57 PM
Oct 2012

They're "pretty".

oneshooter

(8,614 posts)
27. Never see one of those birds in the states.
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 08:10 PM
Oct 2012

Clinton signed an Exec. Order banning the importation of complete military vehicles. The Spitfire is a "Military Vehicle".

 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
28. I've had a few flyovers that looked like them. We also get biplanes. And a SHITLOAD of C-130s.
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 08:17 PM
Oct 2012

I actually use the plane traffic for weather prediction. It sounds weird, but it works. I saw something damn close to a Spitfire this afternoon. I know it wasn't, but my first thought was "WW-II fighter". I've even seen a Red Barron sort of plane. There are a lot of re-enactment gatherings around here.

Confusious

(8,317 posts)
37. "complete" military vehicles
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 04:41 PM
Oct 2012

Just take the engine out, the wings off, and ship them over separately.

Besides, I don't know if a spitfire without guns would qualify as a military vehicle.

You could also get a historical exemption, there always seem to be those.

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
29. C'mon, Steve. Change your link...
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 08:20 PM
Oct 2012

don't be sending any more traffic to a site the Southern Poverty Law Center describes as:

http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/01/06/buyer-beware-veterans-today-and-its-anti-israel-agenda/

don't be sending any more traffic to a site that publishes this description about a photo of Auschwitz:

Here, the phony Auschwitz gas chamber is nothing more than the former morgue for the SS hospital behind it and was later converted into a bomb shelter. The smokestack, not even connected to the building, was added after the war as a prop for photos taken from the other side.


Sid

Hamlette

(15,412 posts)
32. I had to read the subject line 3 times. Thought you meant Burma Shave signs
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 08:30 PM
Oct 2012

remember them? Haven't seen one for years. Are they still around?

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
33. I know it's kind of nerdy, but this is so cool! K&R
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 08:34 PM
Oct 2012

For me the WWII prop fighters were the pinnacle of aviation and though the Spitfire is far from the best of them, they looked awesome. I really like the idea of an aircraft that has an unpowered glide path superior to that of an ice cube.

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