Those videos on Youtube on Mormon rituals are well worth viewing.

[Skidmore]

Many of us know little about this religion and its beliefs or practices. I've been viewing these and they are very instructional in terms of the core beliefs regarding women. What Romney seems to telegraph to us about his role of women as being lesser in society is given context. While men are "endowed" in a ritual to become kings and priests of the universe, women are given a fairly circumscribed role to be queens and priestesses to their husbands. The sole role for women is to pay attention to the "counsel" of their husbands. Given that there is no mention of the role of a single woman, the default role for the woman must be that of spouse.

Given the remarks Romney has made, there is nothing to lead me to believe that he will treat women of other traditions any differently than those instructions given in his own theology.

[2pooped2pop]

1. I think the white horse prophecy

is more of a concern than the secret handshake and stupid rituals.
At least for me. They swear a blood oath against the US and intend a takeover of our government?

[Berlum]

5. The White Horse prophecy discussed on DU

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021592787

[2pooped2pop]

12. lol thanks for the pic

I have probably already seen the thread but will check it out to be sure. Thanks again.

[Turborama]

2. Thank you for the synopsis, I can't watch them as my connection is crap

And the discussion on the main thread has got too big for my blackberry to load without crashing.

Are there any other observations you can share after having seen them? Any mention of Kolob, Jesus coming to America, the white horse prophecy, their racism etc?

[Barack_America]

11. Kolob's in there.

WTF?

[Freddie]

3. Any religion that gives women *no* positions of authority

see also the Catholic Church, Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod, etc. -- view women as inferior human beings, second-class citizens, regardless of how much they state that women have "the highest power" by serving their families.

[JI7]

4. how about Nuns ?

[Freddie]

6. Nuns cannot serve Mass or the sacraments of the church

Weddings, baptisms, etc.
They can be school principals or hospital administrators but have no positions of authority in the Church itself.

[d_r]

7. i couldnt sleep last night

andv endexd up watching the v1 hr and 18 minute complete one. the rutual itself is pretty repititive and bori.g. but watching the whole thing helped me understand it better. i am amazed that funamentalists arent all over this stuff. it is so anthithetical to core christian beliefs. i donjt want to xdegrade anyones religious beliefsv and a lot of good people are mormans. but wow.

[justiceischeap]

9. Anybody but Obama... that's their mantra

they'll throw over their own personal beliefs to make this so, just look at Billy Graham that took down a section of his website that proclaims Mormonism is a cult. I wonder how much the Mormon church donated to Billy Graham to make that happen?

[d_r]

10. you are right imho

I'm just amazed they are willing to throw out their beliefs like that.

[justiceischeap]

14. Just makes it how obvious that their beliefs aren't true beliefs

I'm not a religious person, most would probably claim I was an atheist but if I do have one faith or belief, it's that hypocrisy is the most deeply held belief that the christian right holds.

[jsr]

8. Creepy shit.

[AzDar]

13. Mitt believes the Presidency is his *destiny*, as prophesied by the Great Charlatan Joseph Smith...

This is why he will lie, cheat, and steal to achieve his ends.