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(6,714 posts)It's just comical at this point.
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)That somehow there is more teabaggers out there just waiting to come out of the closet and say they support this douchebag.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)and he thinks they still live in the 50's in the Ozarks just like he does
This guy is handing Missouri to Obama and McCaskill on a silver platter. Thanks Todd.
Texin
(2,597 posts)Wow. I don't think things were this ugly even back in the 50s.
progressoid
(49,999 posts)patrice
(47,992 posts)OffWithTheirHeads
(10,337 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Desperation.
patrice
(47,992 posts)lastlib
(23,286 posts)patrice
(47,992 posts)Science, i.e. what knowledge is and how it develops, is of no or insignificant value to some people, so they lose even hypothetical connections to reality. Everything is one false equivalence or a false dichotomy or another. We now have significant demographics that intentionally or otherwise devalue knowledge. Meaning, identity, significance is predicated upon echoes of echoes, extrapolations from abstractions from, at best, 2nd or 3rd hand "information".
Is it any wonder that widely accepted and very powerful business models have become MALADAPTIVE???
docgee
(870 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,036 posts)patrice
(47,992 posts)The aggregate of that fact is STAGGERING in its implication$$$$$$$$$ to functionality. Lots of money goes into maintaining firewalls against the "anomalous", which triggers other problems of their own.
I know all of that is systems talk (I used to do technical writing and I am watching that arena through family associations), but it does have enormous relevance to so much much more than just computer science.
patrice
(47,992 posts)critical mass and that point doesn't even necessarily HAVE TO be anything even near 50:50; it can be MUCH less than that, depending upon what is included in the individual's constellation of self-reinforcing contextual factors.
The point being that after an individual's cognitive dissonance achieves his/her own critical mass, it becomes self-reinforcing/self-rewarding (biologically), so it maintains itself not just despite all else, but, in fact, BECAUSE of all else.
"Me/us against the world" is taken as PROOF of validity and maintained, until "external" systemic dysonance:consonance achieves its own critical mass and change results, thus triggering individual adaptation or maladaptation.
For some people, cognitive dissonance is a stimulus to adapt, for others cognitive dissonance is a stimulus to maladapt, so the questions are about how big whichever cohort is at a given moment in which of the most relevant processes.
docgee
(870 posts)Tending toward psychopathy, and it's terrifying that this can happen on such a large scale.
patrice
(47,992 posts)be ongoing respectful honest community discussions.
I have heard of something called The Community of Reason; I know a few people who participate. I should look them up and support them.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,036 posts)Some thoughts on important points you make:
Many people have not learned how to reason or the sources of knowledge or how knowledge is accumulated or how it is checked against itself and reality.
False dichotomies and false equivalences are pandemic. There is much too much simplistic thinking.
The devaluation of knowledge is a long term factor in American culture. It is insane how many people are proud of knowing nothing. People would be ashamed to say "I have a block in reading and writing" but many smugly say they have a block in math (meaning Grade 10 and 11 math), partly because they get peer support in high school which rains down on them from parents and adults.
Baseball players are called "heroes" while cancer scientists and robotics engineers are called "nerds", "egg-heads", "pointy-haided intuhlekchules" and worse.
Too true.
patrice
(47,992 posts)Last edited Mon Oct 22, 2012, 03:00 PM - Edit history (1)
here.
I am a conservative Liberal in some aspects and one dimension of that part of me is how I view families. There is no substitute for authentic family and, whether it's blood or some other foundation, that authenticity comes from the extent to which a given relationship is familial, i.e. can be trusted, can be vulnerable, in challenges from BOTH/all participants. My guess is, on the average, many parents, being products of the same dysfunctionalities themselves, cannot deal with their children and the real challenges that the young pose to everything about the "establishment" with which "adults" identify.
Voice of experience here.
This is why teachers should be valued as so so so very much more than cogs in the mechanized "education" machine. Even if they are not the actual familial mentor, when it comes to LEARNING, and the extent to which "education" is an essential factor in learning, teachers are the last step, for a significant cohort, before 0.
AverageJoe
(2,292 posts)Some people simply do not have an aptitude for math. I am such a person, and I am honest about this deficiency to a fault. I can laugh about it, make fun of myself, and so forth, and that might seem like I am being smug or willfully ignorant, but nothing could be farther from the truth.
I wish I were better in math, but for reasons that I don't completely understand, I am not. On the other hand, I hold three advanced degrees, am fascinated by scientific achievement, and I believe I do have a grasp of how knowledge is created and accumulated.
I don't mean to be testy about this, but math is not the only path to truth and some of us who are otherwise quite capable and rational are more than challenged in this area.
And, a thousand years ago when I was in high school, I certainly did not get peer or adult support because of my problems in math. Just the opposite, in fact. I could name many other people just like me. So please, watch the hasty generalizations.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,036 posts)AverageJoe
(2,292 posts)Have fun with your math....
limpyhobbler
(8,244 posts)Whovian
(2,866 posts)What a "moran."
defacto7
(13,485 posts)disappear into the waste bin of memory.......
xxqqqzme
(14,887 posts)of these ignorant people being allowed to speak in public as if they had an understanding of current events.
Newsjock
(11,733 posts)"Akin says President Obama is a communist; Democrats say he is not."
That kind of crap bogus reporting has to stop.
LisaL
(44,974 posts)jackbenimble
(251 posts)He's got nothing to lose so he is attempting one last ditch all out effort to appeal to the folks who were simply shamed out of voting for him. Believe it or not, I actually know a woman who is voting for him. She claims its because she thinks what he said was a mistake. The reality is she votes republican all the time regardless of who it is. It's ironic because if it hadn't been for government funded programs she wouldn't have the education she has that allowed her to be successful enough to buy a home, drive nice cars, and live very comfortably. Without help she would have been just another single parent barely making ends meet every month. But she can't see that.
struggle4progress
(118,334 posts)TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)quinnox
(20,600 posts)you know the rest.
spanone
(135,873 posts)goclark
(30,404 posts)Two of a kind
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)JI7
(89,264 posts)even 25 would be considered too high .
proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)Maybe even close to 45%.
LongTomH
(8,636 posts)This is Missouri, after all. I am very afraid for my country when people like this are in power!
Downwinder
(12,869 posts)Now is Akin claiming that Reagan was a fake and the Communists won after all?
Dr Fate
(32,189 posts)Some defeat.
progressivebydesign
(19,458 posts)Which of course makes me wonder if there is something wrong with Romney.. or if it's just Romnesia taking him back to the 50s. It's like the McCarthy era is back.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Cha
(297,641 posts)the disgraced Joe McCarthy sympathizers.
Permanut
(5,637 posts)we ought to have a way to shut that whole thing down.
desertduck
(213 posts)Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)If Akin screws himself, his body probably has a way of shutting the "hole" thing down. And THAT would explain how he's come to be full of shit!
tavalon
(27,985 posts)Every word out of your mouth loses you 10 votes. Talk and talk and talk.
proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)edhopper
(33,615 posts)Last edited Mon Oct 22, 2012, 09:32 AM - Edit history (1)
What is wrong with people?
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts).... "we've got a bunch of stupid dumbfuck lying Repugs everywhere who don't know what "socialist" or "commie" means"
daleanime
(17,796 posts)When you can tell me the difference between communist and a socialist then I'll listen to you.
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)Of course, Akin can't define "Numbnuts" either, even though he is a living example of such.
TBF
(32,090 posts)Zen Democrat
(5,901 posts)marble falls
(57,204 posts)Laxman
(2,419 posts)This just in-You've nominated a lunatic for Senate. Doesn't it register at some point? I know this crap has gotten old and it's aggravating, but isn't it pathetic at the same time? On two fronts. First, that this is all you have to offer and second, that there are people who buy this swill.
lastlib
(23,286 posts)..just go to the toilet and take a good poop. Todd just opens his mouth and lets the shit flow.
Keep on talking, Todd!! You're showing us the crazy you'd bring to the Senate and punching your ticket to oblivion.
Sad thing is, 45% of Missouri will agree with him. We gotta quit cutting education!
Dr Fate
(32,189 posts)But who is counting.
drm604
(16,230 posts)hobbit709
(41,694 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)to function in everyday life? Does someone dress him? Is there an attendant to wipe his ass? Single-celled fungi demonstrate more intelligence on a daily basis.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)everything he can do to bring America down, he's doing it.
Ship his perverting, raping ass to Gitmo.
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)that anybody to the left of, say George H W Bush, is a 'socialist'.
A bunch of socialists in the Senate. Yeah, sure. Like Lieberman and the Nelson brothers and Herb (millionaire) Kohl are all just as far left as the late Senator George McGovern, a three term senator from that hotbed of socialism known as South Dakota.
South Dakota
McCain 53% Obama 45%
Bush 60% Kerry 38%
Ford 50% Carter 49%
Goldwater 44% LBJ 56%
Missouri
McCain 49.36% Obama 49.23%
Bush 53% Kerry 46%
Ford 47% Carter 51%
Goldwater 36% LBJ 64%
Darth_Kitten
(14,192 posts)DFW
(54,436 posts)Joe Biden Was born in Botswana, too. A Republican told me, and they're ALWAYS up on their facts, aren't they?
Laxman
(2,419 posts)There are exactly 57 card carrying members.....
Akin = John Ickes Iselin
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)speak.
DFW
(54,436 posts)SANITY?"
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)weetie
(18 posts)it wants its Reagan era vocabulary back.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)idiot clown is desperate.
porphyrian
(18,530 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)FU Akin and all your brain-dead followers
NICO9000
(970 posts)How can this race be so close? Are there enough racists and religiously insane folks in MO to let him win?
proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)Anarcho-Socialist
(9,601 posts)In the RW bubble of ideology, if you're not a vindictive robbing sociopath you must be a commie.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)off shipping US job to Communist China.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)Just blasts it right out there...almost, not quite, comical. Go, Claire.
KansDem
(28,498 posts)I feel like I'm back in post-1950s America!!!
"Commie?" Give me a ****ing break!
Actionman
(115 posts)I finally get it now, if you don't follow the belief that women should stay in a subservient role in the US, you're a commie or socialist.
Got Mr. Ashitstainonhisskidmarks. Clair please beat this man back into a womb he can never escape...
Shuhered
(200 posts)Just when one thought that he could not shoot himself in the foot yet again, Senator Akin delivers another gift to the comedians of the world who love, love, LOVE his can't-make-this- stuff-up ignorance. Amazing!!!!
-Steph-
(409 posts)Bake
(21,977 posts)Good lord, we get the government the dumbasses deserve.
Bake
Initech
(100,102 posts)newspeak
(4,847 posts)the working poor, women, children are all commies and against "supply side jaysus." predatory sociopathic deregulated capitalism is much better, right arsehole?
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Last edited Mon Oct 22, 2012, 02:18 PM - Edit history (1)
but we sure as hell have one dumbass mofo in Congress -- and possibly the Senate.
Caeser67
(156 posts)This should (but it won't) automatically disqualify him (or anyone) from running for or holding, public office.
BeliQueen
(504 posts)"So little time; so much to redistribute."
Maybe Akin got it from him.
newspeak
(4,847 posts)we got the obama is hitler signs in my town. and, now it's the communist. they just can't make up their minds or they have no minds. maybe it's because president obama is actually a centrist and it confuses the buggers.
FSogol
(45,525 posts)He really is an idiot." - Groucho Marx
moondust
(20,006 posts)That's so overused.
Why not "Baby-eating Zombie from the Death Star" or something like that with a little more pizzazz?
patrice
(47,992 posts)moondust
(20,006 posts)Dammit I knew that.
patrice
(47,992 posts)then get your minister to counsel your problem children into the "blessings" of war slavery for "all"."
It's all about income redistribution for whom.
ieoeja
(9,748 posts)That is the part I do not understand about Rightist voters. Let my local Democratic Representative claim that "Conservatives kill puppies!", and I would vote against him in a heartbeat. That kind of crazy just can not be supported. But Rightists don't seem to have that problem.
proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)He's so damned stupid I'd never be able to vote for him.
68 Rex
(81 posts)SomethingFishy
(4,876 posts)stubtoe
(1,862 posts)Clinton never got called a "commie". But this meme was launched immediately following the '08 election.
I think it harkens back to a time of socially-acceptable hate and fear.
elbloggoZY27
(283 posts)This is really ugly speech and very intolerant to a vast majority of United States Citizens.
D23MIURG23
(2,850 posts)NYtoBush-Drop Dead
(490 posts)The repug party is definitely the party of mental patients.
gordianot
(15,243 posts)I will never look at them the same again. Every political disaster the world has seen in the last 100 years is endorsed by Missouri voters of Todd Akin.
As horrible as Todd Akin appears there is one Republican State Senator on the horizon who is far worse Brian Nieves. Compared to Nieves, Todd Akin is something of a moderate. Nieves advocates violence against those who oppose his radical agenda.