Was Mitt hospitalized for mental health problems while in France?

[elehhhhna]

Yesterday Mrs. Mitt said that her dating around while he was "serving" in France caused him to be hospitalized.

FOR WHAT?

That's her THIRD comment on his mental health in two weeks.

Hello, France...help us out here.

[JustAnotherGen]

1. Uh

he was in a car accident if I recall correctly. . .

[MountainMazza]

3. Did u see what Ann said on the view yesterday?

[JustAnotherGen]

16. Please tell me

She called him a stupid head.

[Jersey Devil]

4. unless that was a cover story

She may have slipped on The View.

His father was a gov and I would think they'd be concerned about the son's future in politics even at that early age if there was a hospitalization for mental reasons.

[elehhhhna]

9. who says the car accident was his only hospitalization?

WTH is she telling us?

She can't mean that her catting around caused someone to crash into Mitt's car.

[gkhouston]

69. How much is objectively known about this car accident? n/t

[CthulhusEvilCousin]

96. Temple Recommended Mormons

tend to have magical thinking. I also suspect that Mitt is very dominating at home, so she probably was made to think that she was responsible for Mitt getting hurt for her "unfaithfulness" of dating other guys. Listen to how she also said (and the son) that Mitt "dumps" on her for all his problems, and take into account Mormon culture on women. According to Mormonism, women don't get into heaven unless they're married to a man. It all presents to me a picture that everyone in the household literally worships a dominating, psychologically abusive Mitt Romney.

[nichomachus]

22. And Ann managed to turn another person's death into a joke

True to form

[JustAnotherGen]

31. And she is

the female counterpart to his dweebiemonzweebieness.

[monmouth]

2. This is an excellent question. I want to know also and what did it cost him to cover it up..n/t

[jsr]

5. He was in an accident that killed one of his passengers

who was the wife of the mission president.

[KamaAina]

72. Oh, so he's Pickles II

[beac]

6. He was hospitalized after the car he was driving was in a wreck (killing one of his passengers).

Damage-control went into overdrive on that and it got blamed on the other driver, but it's pretty clear Mitt was driving unsafely when you look at the evidence.

Not sure why Ann clearly gave the impression that her faithlessness put him in the hospital. Maybe he was behaving erratically b/c he'd gotten wind of her dating others, maybe she secretly does not want him to be POTUS or maybe she's inadvertantly revealing what she knows about Mitt's lifetime of shaky mental health.

Putting that "Mitt Stabilizer" stuff out there like it's some charming family anecdote and using the words "crazy" and "wired" about Mitt sure makes me think the Romneys have no idea what "normal" is.

[robinlynne]

10. ddin't laura bush also kill someone with a car?

[beac]

12. Yup.

[Poiuyt]

28. Her ex-boyfriend

coincidence?

[JanMichael]

41. I don't care for the Bush's, but Snopes has covered this one

many times. She was a teenager, and it was a total accident. And it doesn't sound as if the guy was a "boyfriend."

[Skittles]

106. CORRECT

terrible accident most likely due to a young, inexperienced driver. She said it forever haunts her, and I believe her.

[elehhhhna]

89. Shhh! HIPAA! Death is a medical event.

[amandabeech]

30. She clearly doesn't want Mitt to be president.

Neither does one of their kids--the guy who was relating some story in which Mitt came off as a meany.

Last night, Omaha Steve posted that there was going to be a big political surprise in a few days, although the clue he gave was that it was a house or senate seat. Perhaps OS put that up to throw everyone off.

Could the surprise be Mitt being forced out of the race?

[gkhouston]

70. No, I don't see Mitt being forced out of the race.

And if his family senses he's going to lose anyway, they might be lashing out at him for putting them through all this for nothing. There's some weird family dynamics going on there.

[amandabeech]

86. Definitely weird family dynamics among the Rmoneys. n/t

[robinlynne]

97. no. he's doing amazingly well. he should be down by 20 or 30 points.

[crunch60]

52. I read that in the aftermath of the car accident,

the French police at first thought Mitt was dead, so maybe he had a serious concussion that has caused his mental instability.

[cali]

7. I doubt it and I wish we wouldn't denigrate people who have been hospitalized and

though I'm sure you'll deny it, that's the effect of posts like this.

[JustAnotherGen]

8. I agree

And I still say it was the car accident that put him in the hospital. Nothing to do with his mental health or the fact that he was born an idiot and is therefore a stupid head. Being mentally ill is far different from being a stupid head, or an idiot, or a dweebiemonzweebie, or a woman hating weak willed male.

[truebluegreen]

13. DUzy!

[Iwasthere]

11. studies show major brain trauma can wait till later years ....

... to show up as mental problems. In other words he could get even worse. His accident was very serious, police at the scene claimed he was dead

[AnotherDreamWeaver]

15. Zombi material...?

[RichGirl]

21. For Gods sake....

We are talking about Mitt Romney...you know, the guy running to be leader of the world??? We all know people who have had mental problems...nobody is denigrating them. Some of my closest friends and family member have never had mental problems and I STILL wouldn't want them to be president. But I sure want my president to be in top notch mental health.

No need to take everything so personally.

[Posteritatis]

35. If you're treating "mental problems" as a monolith, you're denigrating them. (nt)

[elehhhhna]

79. monolithic my ass, i'm talking about crazyasaratinacoffeecan Mitt Romney

[jberryhill]

102. In relation to being president, it is pretty much a monolith

My daughter is blind. She's a wonderful woman who is capable of many surprising things.

It is a given that "airline pilot" is never going to be something which she is capable of doing.

That is a simple fact, which denigrates nobody.

Blindness is simply a disqualification for the position of being an airline pilot.

IMHO, a history of mental illness is a disqualifier for the presidency - as are a LOT of things which are perfectly normal in the general population and should not be a disqualifier for most any other job.

[loyalsister]

27. It's true

that these kinds of posts- trying to impose a mental illness where there is no solid evidence of one do denigrate people who do have mental illnesses.

An effort to create and groom bigotry toward mitt has developed. If there isn't enough dirt, use whatever there is that is remotely suggestive of criminality or mental illness to smear the candidate.

[Posteritatis]

36. Yeah; that tendency's probably the one DU pastime that irritates me the most. (nt)

[loyalsister]

48. Me too!

It's truly offensive.
It's an agenda to make mitt the subject of bigotry. Most of us believe that manipulating racism in Nixon's strategy was despicable. Why is it okay when "liberals" want to do the same thing with mental illness?
I think it's enough that he has been identified as being worse than W.

[HuckleB]

93. Plus 1,000,000,000 ... 000

[Turborama]

14. This could mean he was hospitalized more than once

The other time being the car accident.

This other occasion she could be referring to wouldn't have necessarily got any publicity at the time, unless there was an 'incident'.

Is there a transcript of what she actually said? I believe she's previously said something similar, with regards to him having a breakdown in France.

[pinboy3niner]

19. Here's a transcription from examiner.com

According to this story, it was a tasteless attempt at a joke:

Ann Romney made an appearance on the popular morning talk show The View on Thursday Oct. 18. She fielded many questions including if she watched television, and how long she and Mitt have been married. While answering the question she made a joke about Mitt being in the hospital in France because he was broken hearted. Actually, he was in the hospital because he was involved in a head-on car accident where one of the passengers died. Mitt was driving, and many Americans do not find this to be a matter where humor should be involved.

...

Hasselbeck: You and, uh, the governor actually, I know you've been together what, 43 years?

Romney: That's right.

Hasselbeck: That is exceptional, and a bunch of grandkids as Barbara mentioned. There was one point though, did you guys almost break up?

Romney: Well, not according to Mitt.

*audience laughter*

Romney: We were separated for a very long time. We dated in high school and then he went to Stanford for a year and then he went on a mission (to France) for two-and-a-half years. I didn't see him really for like three-and-a-half years and during that time I was, of course, dating other people and having fun, and sort of forgetting about Mitt a little bit too much. I think that really kind of hurt him, a lot. I think it did actually put him in the hospital when he was in France.

*audience laughter*

If the audience knew the truth about why Mitt was actually in the hospital, I doubt they would have found Ann Romney's comments appropriate or amusing.

http://www.examiner.com/article/ann-romney-made-a-joke-on-the-view-about-mitt-killing-someone-france-1968

[Turborama]

37. Thanks, man

"I think it did actually put him in the hospital when he was in France"

It's entirely possible she's talking about a separate time, when saying "it" "put him in the hospital", than the one everyone already knows about.

She's mentioned him having a breakdown in France and being hospitalized in a different interview, I just can't remember which one.

[nadinbrzezinski]

17. Car crash

Why he walks funny.

[OldDem2012]

34. Nothing I've read about this accident has mentioned anything about a leg or hip injury.....

The consensus of the research I've done indicates he hurt an arm and got banged up a little bit, but nothing that would have caused a stay in the hospital of any length.

Don't you smell some kind of cover story?

[nadinbrzezinski]

43. There was also what today woud be called a TBI

His gait is consistent.

There is so damn much to be critical.

And I will be honest, I am dead tired of the other side pols have mental issues. Both sides do it.

Don't get me wrong, given his medical history he shoud be far more upfront, but I can say this or a slew of pols.

[OldDem2012]

64. And you got his complete medical report from whom, exactly?....

Please don't speculate on this kind of stuff unless you have the facts to back it up.

[nadinbrzezinski]

71. From the accident report as posted a while ago

The other car - driven by a Catholic priest - had missed a curve and crashed into theirs , knocking Romney unconscious . One policeman swiftly decided that Romney was dead.

But he wasn’t. He finished in hospital with fractured ribs, a concussion and a broken arm. Tragically, the mission chief’s wife died . Romney’s brother-in-law flew to France immediately, to supervise Romney's care.

http://www.editinternational.com/read.php?id=4f15e790b0b22

And it is speculation based on MODERN MEDICAL SCIENCE

Yes, we know he was in a bad crash, as in a really bad crash, where somebody died and he lost consciousness. We also know that the experience changed him.

Any other questions?

Realize the idea that he has long term effects up to this time and place come from VERY RECENT advances in medical science based on the signature injury of the Iraq\Afghanistan conflict, and since I have no access, nor do you, to his medical record, I am just saying that this is consistent with those signs and symptoms. Unlike people here, I am not saying he has it. There are a series of testing criteria that could be used today to discard this.

But I am also not saying the guy is nuts.

Some of his behavior, including at the debate, MIGHT. and this is the proper choice word,. MIGHT be explained by TBI, which the history at the crash is highly suggestive off... this is based on changes in personality and impulse control. Of course it might be just being an asshole... your mileage will vary.

But I am tired of people going he is nuts, or he walks like a robot. Both his lack of impulse control and his gait can easily be explained.

There is so much more to be critical of Romney, like oh his policy positions.

But I am damn tired of people just going... he is nuts (insert candidate here that people don't like) and that goes for both sides.

[WinkyDink]

74. "We also know that the experience changed him." We do? It did? How, and how?

[zappaman]

77. +1 and I eagerly await Dr. Nadin's diagnosis... n/t

[nadinbrzezinski]

80. For god sakes, for starters it proved that he was mortal

you know you are assuming that having somebody die in a car accident would not affect this young man.

Jesus are you going to tell me that such an experience that rattles most human beings did not rattle him? Are you telling me this?

Talk about a negative feedback loop.

For the record, since neither you or me know him today, let alone back then (I was three) neither of us can say HOW he was changed.

But damn it, this making of the enemy and creating such monsters is really, and I mean this, REALLY TIRESOME.

And I am not saying he is a good man or a monster, his action speak loudly... but sorry if I am not going to take the Hemlock with you and assume that he is the devil incarnate. You go on, do so. I am sure many here will applaud you for that.

Nor am I going to vote for him, but not because he is the devil, or hitler's second coming, nope, quite simply I do not agree with his political and economic views.

So sorry, if I cannot join you in this demonization and the creation of the other.

[zappaman]

83. So we know he's mortal???

Uh, thanks for edumacting us I guess.
Suffice it to say, stating the obvious may be your strong suit...

[WinkyDink]

94. Your reply is beyond bizarre. You make a claim to KNOW something about Mitt, then you reply that, in

fact, you do NOT know him AT ALL.

Would Ted Bundy have been "rattled"? I think not.

But you go on with your equalization of Romney to normal personhood, if it makes you feel better.

Me? I'd like to take a swing at him.

[nadinbrzezinski]

95. No I made a claim based on normal human psychology

It is your burden to prove he is actually a psychopath. Go ahead, keep demonizing. Some of us will not take that dangerous path.

Oh and one more thing, just because somebody is a republican, or a democrat, does not imply this person is mentally ill...

[elehhhhna]

82. oh. lack of impulse control? nevermind. that's okay in a sitting president.

geez.

[nadinbrzezinski]

85. Tell me, exactly how do you screen a POTUS who is not qualified?

There is the 25th Amendment, which SHOULD, operative word, been used with Ronald Wilson Reagan who had early signs of Alzheimers as early as 1984... we know this a few almost decades over. He should have been removed and his VEEP taken over, period.

So, given the Constitution does not have a medical check and clearance for candidates to the WH how are you going to do that?

Nor would he be the first, or even last, POTUS with impulse control issues.

To require a series of medical tests for all candidates to the WH, means a Constitutional Amendment... Don Quixote good luck assaulting that windmill.

I prefer to live in the reality based community by the by.

[elehhhhna]

88. Please reread my op. I didn't suggest any of that.

If Michelle Obama said "I'd be concerned for his mental health" if her hubs were reelected, and that her dating other people "put him in the hospital", would you wonder wth she was saying? I would.

[nadinbrzezinski]

90. And I am telling you the remedy

I am just damn tired of both sides dehumanizing the other side.

But that's just me. Have a good day.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

18. Could the car accident have also caused the need for psychiatric care?

Apart from whether he suffered brain trauma there's the fact his driving caused the death of the wife of his mission leader. Maybe he has no conscience, but I know if I was driving a car in which someone I knew had died, it would be a severely life-altering experience. Did he feel responsible for her death? Was she even in the car, on that trip because of Romney? Did his mission leader blame Romney for the death of his wife? How long was it before Romney got back in a car behind the wheel? I would hope that some journalist was able to get some information about this, even knowing medical records are always sealed and require a release.

[Javaman]

20. What I find really telling about mittens and vapid is...

did anyone here ever her Michelle slam Obama this way? hell no. The actually love each other.

frankly, I have always been of the belief that anne is evil but evil in the way of someone who feels trapped. No, I don't feel sorry for her in the least. She made her own choices and chose money over own mental health.

And while a few people have stated, "maybe she's trying to tell us something or trying to warn us", no, I don't believe that in the least, I think that's just how she has evolved while being in a dysfunctional relationship with a sociopath.

[porphyrian]

23. That would be information protected by HIPAA unless volunteered by the patient or his legal...

...representative. However, I do believe we should be concerned about Romney's fitness to serve as President. So far, he's given no indication that he qualifies for the job, mental health problems or not.

[elehhhhna]

24. HIPAA ain't in effect in France

[porphyrian]

25. The patient isn't a French citizen, to my knowledge.

I'm not trying to say that you are wrong, I am saying that we should protect the medical records of all Americans as confidential, even if they are batshit crazy douchebags running for President. It's a right to privacy issue, and I feel strongly about it.

[Turborama]

26. If one's in a competition where the prize is being in control of weapons that can destroy the earth

multiple times, then one should lose one's right to keeping mental health records private. Especially if there's the slightest possibility they are batshit crazy.



Something I feel strongly about, and expressed with all due respect.

[porphyrian]

29. It's not a competition, it's the election of the President of the United States of America.

In America, we have laws. Those laws protect our medical information, and mental health is medical information. You do not have a right to someone else's medical information, by law.

That said, I'm sure that there is some form of medical review that candidates for President have to pass; they have to be mentally competent, I'm sure. If cops have such a review, I don't believe that the President would not. However, I am not familiar with the specifics. What I am familiar with is the privacy of medical records, and you have no right to Romney's unless he gives you power of attorney, by law.

[Turborama]

32. Competition

Pronunciation: \ˌkäm-pə-ˈti-shən\

Function: noun

Etymology: Late Latin competition-, competitio, from Latin competere
Date: 1579

1 : the act or process of competing : rivalry: as

a : the effort of two or more parties acting independently to secure the business of a third party by offering the most favorable terms

b : active demand by two or more organisms or kinds of organisms for some environmental resource in short supply

2 : a contest between rivals;

http://i.word.com/idictionary/competition

By its very nature, an election is a competition.

Anyway, semantics aside, I was expressing what I think should happen. I agree that everyone should have the right to keep their medical records private. But where we differ is in one exceptional circumstance.


After Bushco, I don't have any faith in prior screening tests behind closed doors - if such things exist. The only test we know of is based on public opinion formed by "facts" available to them - a public opinion which in and of itself is nigh on impossible to be relied upon now with all the relentless disinformation and psyops flying around from the reich.

[porphyrian]

33. Unless and until you change the law, what I said is still correct. n/t

[Turborama]

39. read carefully what I wrote, I didn't say you're incorrect.

It was stating my firmly held opinion.

Sometimes the law is an ass, though.

[porphyrian]

40. I read what you wrote. I didn't misinterpret it and I don't need to change what I said.

I am right. Thank you for your opinion.

[Turborama]

87. I never said you were wrong

Anyway, I think the suspiscions he eats babies should give voters who are still on the fence pause for thought...

[nadinbrzezinski]

45. No, there is no medical review for candidates to the Presidency.

[porphyrian]

54. That's a bad idea, then. They drug test you to be a janitor, and they don't do...

...a psych eval at least to be President? I guess I'm not really surprised, but that doesn't change anything about medical records and who is legally able to access them.

[nadinbrzezinski]

55. The constitution was ratified in 1789

The requirements are there, natural born, of 35 years of age.

[porphyrian]

56. Yes, thank you, I know those. However, we have laws that are made based on the Constitution...

...and, since I haven't applied for President recently, I wasn't making any assumptions that further qualifications or procedures had not been added to law since then. If there haven't been, perhaps there should be.

[nadinbrzezinski]

58. That will be fought by both parties

On constitutional grounds.

Also in principle who checks a candidate to declare them fit for the job?

Also after the Reagan experience, he was checked while President, We know he was in the very early stages of Alzhemeirs, the joke in this house is that when Iran Contra exploded he actually did tell the truth, he could honestly not recall. But this was kept from the nation, even during the 1984 election.

Then there is the Kennedy issues with pain meds due to his back injuries.

Of course then there is FDR and the fact that the Press kept from people the fact that he was wheelchair bound.

Of these three, the Reagan Presidency was the most egregious failure, as a President with early stages of Alzheimers is not qualified... yet he was reelected and went on to serve for four more years... (I suspect not just Nancy but Poppy Bush ran the shop for quite a bit of the last two years)

But for the sake of argument, who vets Romney? And should this vetting be done for ALL candidates during the Primary? And how do you release this given HIPPA?

[porphyrian]

91. Really? OK.

I only posted on this thread because I mental health information is medical information that is protected by HIPAA, thus it is not public information, it is confidential. That is law. I was challenged on this and reiterated this point. In doing so, I suggested that I presumed there was some process for verifying that Presidential candidates were mentally unfit for service, but that I did not know if this were true or not. I am not campaigning to pass new laws to do this, I am simply surprised that, given that other lower-level, lower-security civil servant positions DO have something like this in place, that we do not have a process such as this for the person who can begin a nuclear war on behalf of our nation. Given that, it seems reasonable to have something like this. However, that is as far as I have gone with this, and I have no intention of solving this problem myself on this thread.

Reagan was indeed already in office and I'm sure you will also recall the speculation that VP Bush may have been calling the shots when Reagan was mentally incompetent. I don't know.

Physical infirmity is another matter entirely. I was speaking only to mental incompetence in a tangential way to my assertion that mental health records are confidential by law.

Finally, by law, the patient or the patient's legal representative are the ones who may see a patient's medical records. I believe there may also be some specific exceptions, such as for medical personnel in an emergency. The specifics are all online: http://www.hhs.gov/ocr/privacy/index.html . States may have further laws regarding the handling of medical records as well.

[nadinbrzezinski]

92. I just answered your questions

Perhaps I shoud refrain from posting any longer on DU, at least until after the election...silly season...

The list of verboten subjects keeps going up by leaps and bounds. Also daring to disagree with the whole trend of creating the other is ahem, problematic. (Which this thread is part off)

[zappaman]

100. 'Perhaps I shoud refrain from posting any longer on DU"

Here we go again...

[WinkyDink]

75. The accident pre-dated your point. And yes, France is a pertinent element.

[nadinbrzezinski]

44. You are right, France has it's own privacy laws as well

Most countries protect it, but I am sure you knew that.

[KatyMan]

46. From KatyMan's wife

as an RN who has practiced in Europe- Most of Europe has much stricter patient privacy laws than we have....doubt we will ever know what happened

[nadinbrzezinski]

47. Thanks, that was my point

We can infer what happened...TBI is in my category of things that might have happened, which could explain gait issues and poor impulse control as given by the stories of Ann being a stabilizer.

Confirm this? When pigs fly. Hippa was partially modeled on those European laws...gasp, I know.

[elehhhhna]

57. We have a right to ASK when his WIFE repeatedly implies he's unstable

unless you're okay with that

I know there are privacy laws, but WTH is she talking about?

[nadinbrzezinski]

60. And they have a right to tell you to pack sand

that said I have a suspicion of what is at play here, GIVEN THE ACTUAL HISTORY, but will refrain from now on of actually saying it. After all it does not conform to the current reality of this place and we like to create the other.

Suffice it to say it has nothing to do with mental health.

Nor, rightfully so, could I ever confirm it, unless Ann, or any other member of the family comes out and slips it out.

[elehhhhna]

65. I understand that we have no right to his medical records.

His family calls him unstable. I don't care if that's b/c he's drunk on moonshine, a crackhead, has a tbi, or he's a rageaholic...I'd like to know why THEY keep bringing it up. Maybe the liberal media should ask them.

[nadinbrzezinski]

73. No media will ask this

period. HIPPA is one reason for that.

Have you ever worked in media? If somebody is taken to the hospital by ambulance, UNLESS the family is upfront with Media, and that is a decision taken by medical staff and family members, we do not learn their fate. And that goes for persons in the public eye as well, the Giffords family DECIDED to be very public over Gabby's recovery, for example.

We are lucky when we learn status of anybody taken to the hospital.

You expect anybody to aks this given privacy concerns these days?

Go ahead, speculate all you want.

Hey, maybe next time they come to La Jolla I will try to ask... snark.

[elehhhhna]

78. no one can say "Mrs. Romney,

when you said you'd be concerned for your hubs mental health, what did you mean?" Okaaaaaaay.

She brings it up, talks about it TWICE on national tele and it's off limits to ask her to clarify. got it.

[nadinbrzezinski]

81. That should have happened at that moment

but now, nobody will ask.

[elehhhhna]

84. well we do agree on those points

[reformist2]

38. Yet MORE evidence Ann secretly does not want this? She's giving off bad vibes...

She has said on numerous occasions she doesn't like campaigning and didn't want to do it again. I have to think she caved into Mitt's demands one last time, but that she still would rather he not run, let alone win!

[apples and oranges]

42. The secrecy surrounding this guy is extremely troubling

[nadinbrzezinski]

50. Medical privacy laws, look those up

This particular part of it has bucks to do with the family b

[JanMichael]

49. Oh hell, it was probably for veneral disease. Seriously

a young, relatively good looking guy in France? Jesus...what did they call it back then? The "clap."

Probably got drunk off his ass for the first time, and picked up something.

And Anne was told "it's because he misses you!"

What a stupid shit family. I am sick of them. I want the Palins back.

[nadinbrzezinski]

51. Jaysus, no, he was in a very bad car crash

One person died, he was unconscious, and then to the hospital.

We really don't need to make stuff up.

We can infer a few things from this story, but jaysus we don't need to make stuff up.

This is toxic and I am sick of BOTH SIDES doing this.

[elehhhhna]

59. Then please explain what you think she was talking about.

She brought it up for god's sake. not me.

[nadinbrzezinski]

61. I did in a post I deleted

and was rightfully, to a point, called on for medicalizing him, even though I offered that as a theory... I shan't speak of this anymore. Beyond telling you that there is a very good reason for her statement and you could look it up in the signs and symptoms of a current signature injury for a current war, soon to be a past war.

I will not play the game that you insist on playing. Suffice it to say, no, it is NOT psychological...

The data you need is in the previous post.

[elehhhhna]

62. You've diagnosed asking a valid question as a "game".

and the data I need is in a deleted post? wow.

if you're implying closed-head injury due to a car accident, what does THAT have to do with Anne's statement? Was she being "funny"? About a deadly accident he was a victim of? What?

[nadinbrzezinski]

67. It is a game that both sides play

and it is a dangerous game. It is part and parcel of creating the other. And both as a child of a holocaust survivor and a debriefer of refugees from ANOTHER Genocide, I know how dangerous this game, and yes it is a game, is.

As to Ann, go ask her... please do...

You know I used to think that bubbles only existed on the right, and boy lord knows it is a feedback loop over there... but they now ALSO exist on the "left," if a lot less developed.

Sorry for that inconvenient dose of reality.

We know of a car accident, we know THE HISTORY... Jaysus, it is not that complex! Making educated guesses, and that is all they are, I have no access to a medical record, and I suspect neither do you, is one thing. Jumping to conclussions about somebody's mental heath is dangerous.

And for the record, the answer from Romney the other day on Libya... that exchange, came from him living in the RW loop feedback bubble. I guess I am watching on this thread the same effect... thankfully the media is not that irresponsible, on the left, yet.

[zappaman]

66. Yes, you speculated he had a brain injury.

So, you are now an expert in that field too?

[backscatter712]

53. Romney has a mental disorder alright...

He's a psychopath!

[flyguyjake]

63. His only mental health problem is that he's part of the Republican party!

[68 Rex]

68. Rex Recs

[WinkyDink]

76. Medical records, schmedical records. The guy's a sociopath, and that's that.

[MFM008]

104. I dont hold crazy against him as a civilian..

been there done that.
But the button? Really?
Another sociopath as president?
This guy is probably still carrying around someones mummified fetus in a jar .
He gives off bad vibes like a beautiful house that has a very bad smell.

[GeorgeGist]

98. He still has flashbacks to Bordeaux.

[Sedona]

99. ROMNESIA!

[Barbara2423]

101. Romney Behaves as though he is Mentally Ill.

But Money Hides Alot.

[liberal N proud]

103. American voters deserve to know.

This is serious and the republicans should never have put him on their ticket without this being answered.

[KansDem]

105. Revelations about Thomas Eagleton's mental health helped sink McGovern's 1972 campaign

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McGovern then asked Senator Gaylord Nelson to be his running mate. Nelson declined but suggested Tom Eagleton, whom McGovern ultimately chose, with only a minimal background check. Eagleton made no mention of his earlier hospitalizations, and in fact decided with his wife to keep them secret from McGovern while he was flying to his first meeting with the Presidential nominee.

[edit] Replacement on the ticketMcGovern said he would back Eagleton "1000 percent". Subsequently, McGovern consulted confidentially with preeminent psychiatrists, including Eagleton's own doctors, who advised him that a recurrence of Eagleton's depression was possible and could endanger the country should Eagleton become president.[8][9][10][11][12] On August 1, Eagleton withdrew at McGovern's request and, after a new search by McGovern, was replaced by Kennedy in-law Sargent Shriver.[13]

A Time magazine poll taken at the time found that 77 percent of the respondents said "Eagleton's medical record would not affect their vote." Nonetheless, the press made frequent references to his 'shock therapy', and McGovern feared that this would detract from his campaign platform.[14]

McGovern's handling of the controversy was an opening for the Republican campaign to raise serious questions about his judgment. In the general election, the Democratic ticket won only Massachusetts and the District of Columbia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Eagleton#Selection_as_vice_presidential_candidate

[janet118]

107. Yeah, she mentioned worrying about Mitt's mental health

Ann Romney: biggest fear is for Mitt's "mental well-being" - Reuters – Fri, Sep 28, 2012

Ann Romney told a Nevada television station her biggest concern if her husband, Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney, becomes president was his "mental well-being."

In an interview Thursday with television station KTVN, Mrs. Romney was asked what her biggest worry was should Mitt Romney be elected to serve in the White House.

"I think my biggest concern obviously would just be for his mental well-being," she said. "I have all the confidence in the world in his ability, in his decisiveness, in his leadership skills, in his understanding of the economy. ... So for me I think it would just be the emotional part of it."

[napkinz]

108. Mitt's Mental Meltdown

from Oilwellian

from Kossack