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David Corn From the Land
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The arrogance and ineptitude of Bush, Cheney, and their henchmen have led to the horrible images and tales we have seen reported from Afghanistan in the past few dayswhich themselves are the continuation of many years of horrible images and tales from the double-debacle of these two wars.
As the Post put it, senior U.S. officials failed to tell the truth about the war in Afghanistan throughout the 18-year campaign, making rosy pronouncements they knew to be false and hiding unmistakable evidence the war had become unwinnable.
The 20 years of fighting did keep the Taliban at bay, and for many Afghans that was a true benefit. But the lies certainly were an offense against the American public and the Constitution. The war in Afghanistanprosecuted in ignorance and sold with hubris and falsehoodshas been a scandal of the highest order, a fundamental violation of the national trust.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2021/08/the-afghanistan-debacle-this-land-sneak-peek/
Hekate
(90,829 posts)David Corns losing me on that
JoanofArgh
(14,971 posts)zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)On this one issue, it would be a challenge to find any meaningful difference in the handling of the war between any of them, save maybe Biden who advised Obama to get out. Obama increased, nearly tripling, the troop presence in Afghanistan, to little if any success.
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rockfordfile
(8,704 posts)UpInArms
(51,284 posts)What crap
Eta:
If it said:
Bush/Cheney
Obama/Biden
Trump/Pence
But, no
attempting to lump Biden into that when no one else is name
Crap
just crap
Spewing for whose ever rightwing benefit
I hate these people
jcmaine72
(1,773 posts)Not all that surprising it went over like a lead balloon here. The history, however, speaks for itself, and facts are facts.
Time for America to stop being the world's policeman. We suck at it. Always have. (Vietnam, Iraq, and now Afghanistan). Since the end of WW2, both parties have had their turn playing G.I. Joe on the world stage and have gotten tens of thousands of young Americans killed overseas ultimately for nothing. It needs to stop, but it won't.
There are too many trillion$ at stake for our defense industry, and there are too many greedy palms in D.C. that have already been greased to ensure the meat grinder never stops.
I would add to that, hopefully without sounding ageist, too many politicians and appointed military and intel leaders are old enough to nostalgically remember post WWII American growth and wealth, while Europe was broken and shattered.
That's no longer the case. They need to get with the program of global cooperation, or get the fuck out of the way
arthritisR_US
(7,299 posts)sods, the oil industry is also a major culprit in all these wars.