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kpete

(72,017 posts)
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 12:16 PM Oct 2012

MEET YOUR NEW DIEBOLD!-Owners Of Electronic Voting Machine Company Are Romney Super-Fans

STEAL THIS VOTE 12:54 PM OCTOBER 13, 2012
MEET YOUR NEW DIEBOLD!
BY REBECCA SCHOENKOP




Hey, remember when they stole Ohio? Hahaha, yeah, good times. (Here is a quick story explainering the bizarre discrepancies between exit polls, which showed John Kerry winning handily, and the tabulated results, which flipped that. It has the special bonus of world’s greatest pollster Dick Morris musing that since exit polls are like never wrong, and are used in Third World countries to determine if an election’s been thieved, Occam’s Razor insists that the easiest answer is not that the machines were hacked, but that the liberal media fixed … the exit polls. To dissuade Bush voters from coming out. A man of fierce intellect, most certainly.) Right, so! It is time to meet your new Diebold machines, from H.I.G., a company of fine fellows who to the man have donated to Mitt Romney, and a full third of whose board of directors come from Bain? Oh yeah, them.

From The Daily Dolt:

Owners Of Electronic Voting Machine Company Are Romney Super-Fans

Hart InterCivic is a national provider of election voting systems that are used in swing-states Ohio and Colorado, as well as in states we don’t really care about so much because we already know how they’ll turn out (e.g., Texas, Oklahoma, and Hawaii). Private equity firm H.I.G. Capital, LLC bought out a “significant” portion of Hart in July of 2011, and now the majority of Hart’s board directors are employees of H.I.G. (It’s not entirely clear how much of the voting machine company H.I.G. owns, but the financial advisors responsible for the transaction state that “Hart Intercivic was acquired by HIG Capital.”)



The Daily Dolt goes on to provide helpful links http://www.thedailydolt.com/2012/10/10/former-bain-employees-own-voting-machine-company-used-in-swing-states/ to all H.I.G.’s board of directors, helpfully pointing out which are former Bain employees and which are current Romney bundlers. (All of them, Katie.) So we’re not saying H.I.G. is going to steal Colorado for good old Miffed Romney. We’re just saying what the fuck was wrong with paper ballots?

http://wonkette.com/486698/meet-your-new-diebold#more-486698
http://www.thedailydolt.com/2012/10/10/former-bain-employees-own-voting-machine-company-used-in-swing-states/
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MEET YOUR NEW DIEBOLD!-Owners Of Electronic Voting Machine Company Are Romney Super-Fans (Original Post) kpete Oct 2012 OP
Glad to see the story getting play.. flamingdem Oct 2012 #1
Well, duh, that goes without saying. nt valerief Oct 2012 #2
Actually, it goes without 'duh-ing' Berlum Oct 2012 #3
Duh-duh. nt valerief Oct 2012 #4
yet all I hear is GOTV GOTV- I think we need to do more than GOTV RepublicansRZombies Oct 2012 #5
Electronics have absolutely no place in our voting. There just is simply no need to re-invent the silvershadow Oct 2012 #6
I am begining to think AsahinaKimi Oct 2012 #7
Making paper ballots mandatory in all 50 states may be as important as campaign finance reform... reformist2 Oct 2012 #8
Here's a solution to electronic voting blues lover Oct 2012 #9

flamingdem

(39,324 posts)
1. Glad to see the story getting play..
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 12:27 PM
Oct 2012

but if past results are any predictor we're in trouble. There is apparently no way to check the machines and no paper trail.

That leaves the PPP polls of early voters and Exit Polls on Nov. 6th as the only way to show vote flipping and even then it would have to be enough to make the case for fraud.

 
5. yet all I hear is GOTV GOTV- I think we need to do more than GOTV
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 01:01 PM
Oct 2012

'It is not who votes that matter, it is who counts the votes'
 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
6. Electronics have absolutely no place in our voting. There just is simply no need to re-invent the
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 01:33 PM
Oct 2012

wheel. There is NO need for these machines, which were foist upon us by Bushco, in much the same manner as all Buschco initiatives.

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
8. Making paper ballots mandatory in all 50 states may be as important as campaign finance reform...
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 01:41 PM
Oct 2012

Electronic/computerized voting gives me the creeps!

blues lover

(13 posts)
9. Here's a solution to electronic voting
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 01:58 PM
Oct 2012

Electronic voting has been sold as a way to save money, (B.S. of course), Accuracy, (Who knows?),convenience,(That's ALWAYS without cost!), and ultimately about our wanting to know who won, almost immediately.

Since it has been demonstrated repeatedly that partisan individuals manufacture, sell and program these machines using proprietary, secret software, and they seem to operate without paper trails that can be confidently relied upon, why should our Democracy depend on such a flawed system?

I think that the little printers that are on every ATM and gas pump in America be required on our voting apperati. These printers could be used to print Two tapes. When you cast your ballot on the touch screen, a little window should show you the printed tape. At which time you will be asked on screen if the tape matches your vote. You then register your vote, the tape is rolled and one copy comes to the little tear-off place and you, the voter, tear it off and look at it to reassure yourself that votes were cast correctly. The other copy of the tape stays in the machine.

You, the voter, would then take your vote receipt and fold it and drop it into a ballot box on hand. At this point, there are now three copies of your ballot. One is electronic and can be transmitted electronically to election headquarters to feed our need to know who won before we go to bed.

The tapes from the machine would be removed from the machine at the voting place by election officials in their traditional roles. These tapes and the SEALED ballot box would be delivered to election headquarters where the physical tapes could be correlated with the electronic records and then the vote could be certified if the numbers all match. This would ensure the integrity of the electronic calculations.

If there is a need for a recount, say a discrepancy between the tapes and the electronic results, or a candidate demands a recount, then we go to the sealed ballot box. At this point we have a wonderful civics lesson and teaching point to engage our citizens. The sealed ballot bo s) could be taken to the high school(s) in the affected area(s), and under the watchful eyes of representatives from both or all disputants, the contents could be counted by the local Honor Society(s).

I think this proposal has a lot of good points and not many downsides.

Please discuss....

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