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kpete

(72,014 posts)
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 09:29 AM Oct 2012

Audience To Be Publicly EMBARRASSED If They Dare Confront Candidates W/O Permission Of Candy Crowley

In essence, audience members will be publicly embarrassed for daring to confront candidates without the permission of Candy Crowley.

A copy of the secret debate contract the campaigns for Barack Obama and Mitt Romney drew up for the 2012 presidential debates has leaked. TIME has posted it. The contract includes express limitations related to other candidates qualifying for debates, not publicly calling or participating in additional debates, not mentioning people in the audience beyond family members or not addressing questions to each or asking candidates to take pledges.
http://thepage.time.com/2012/10/15/the-complete-m-o-u/#ixzz29Pfde3tx

…Prior to the start of the debate, audience members will be asked to submit their questions in writing to the moderator. No third party, including the Commission and the campaigns, shall be permitted to see the questions. The moderator shall ensure that the audience members post to the candidates a balance of questions on foreign policy and national security, on the one hand, and domestic and economic policy on the other. The moderator will further review the questions and eliminate any questions that the moderator deems inappropriate. At least seven (7) days before the October 16 (Second Presidential-Town Hall) debate, the moderator shall develop, and describe to the campaigns, a method for selecting questions at random while assuring that questions are reasonably well balanced in terms of addressing a wide range of issues of major public interest facing the United States and the world. Each question will be asked by the audience member submitting the question. If any audience member poses a question or makes a statement that is in any material way different than the question that the audience member earlier submitted to the moderator for review, the moderator will cut-off the questioner and advise the audience that such non-reviewed questions are not permitted. Moreover the Commission shall take appropriate steps to cut-off the microphone of any such audience member who attempts to pose any question or statement differently than that previously posed to the moderator for review. The moderator will inform the audience of this provision prior to the start of the debate…

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Audience To Be Publicly EMBARRASSED If They Dare Confront Candidates W/O Permission Of Candy Crowley (Original Post) kpete Oct 2012 OP
How about the BRONX CHEER? HockeyMom Oct 2012 #1
Provocative headline. Seems fine to me. nolabear Oct 2012 #2
i.e. no sneaking a marijuana question in Enrique Oct 2012 #3
Oh goody! HappyMe Oct 2012 #4
This is entirely appropriate caraher Oct 2012 #5
Sure, but candy will not cut off a teabagger senseandsensibility Oct 2012 #6
I almost cannot watch due to that bag of crap creepy crawley. lonestarnot Oct 2012 #8
I'm blissfully ignorant of 99% of today's newsreaders caraher Oct 2012 #22
Candy Crowley, what went on in your head... EnviroBat Oct 2012 #7
Every time I hear her name I lonestarnot Oct 2012 #9
Yeah, me too... EnviroBat Oct 2012 #10
That little chimp is a demon. lonestarnot Oct 2012 #13
On has to wonder if the dawg ever got him... EnviroBat Oct 2012 #17
Misleading headline. The actual provision is necessary to prevent audience members from grabbing magical thyme Oct 2012 #11
Good point. It also wipes away Pizza Hut-type questions. randome Oct 2012 #18
So, Candy gets to select the questions to be asked by audience members? Tennessee Gal Oct 2012 #12
See how they fear the public? We get a dog-and-pony show managed by Crowley, bemildred Oct 2012 #14
Yeah, that's what we need -more yelling and chanting. That should make for an informative debate. randome Oct 2012 #15
There isn't going to be any informative debate, that's the point. bemildred Oct 2012 #16
I agree there's nothing much to be gleaned from this 'debate'. randome Oct 2012 #19
I certainly hope so. bemildred Oct 2012 #20
So no "boxers or briefs" type questions then. Well that sucks (nt) Nye Bevan Oct 2012 #21
Conflicting rhetoric... ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2012 #23

nolabear

(41,991 posts)
2. Provocative headline. Seems fine to me.
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 09:34 AM
Oct 2012

This isn't a free for all and if anyone agrees to the format and the impedes it they should be cut off.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
3. i.e. no sneaking a marijuana question in
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 09:35 AM
Oct 2012

a very important question that millions of people care about deeply, but which neither party nor the media wants to talk about.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
4. Oh goody!
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 09:35 AM
Oct 2012

So, it's going to be the Candy Romney show.

I think it would be funny to cut off Crowley's mic.

caraher

(6,279 posts)
5. This is entirely appropriate
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 09:36 AM
Oct 2012

Sure, we might fantasize about calling out Mitt on his BS with an embarrassing question, but the rules also need to give the moderator the power to cut off an unhinged teabagger rant as well.

Don't forget, all these "debates" are really carefully-managed parallel live press conferences rather than true debates. And barring truly spectacular meltdowns, they signify nothing about the qualifications of either candidate - never have and never will.

senseandsensibility

(17,130 posts)
6. Sure, but candy will not cut off a teabagger
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 09:39 AM
Oct 2012

or at least she will take her sweet time doing it. The teabaggers are not who the corporate media is afraid of.

caraher

(6,279 posts)
22. I'm blissfully ignorant of 99% of today's newsreaders
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 02:05 PM
Oct 2012

I'd hope the Obama camp would have made an effort to secure a moderator who at least wanted to appear fair. I can't say I have any expectations of Crowley either way, though I'd expect her to be right-of-center given the biases of our misnamed "liberal media."

EnviroBat

(5,290 posts)
7. Candy Crowley, what went on in your head...
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 09:41 AM
Oct 2012

Every time I hear her name I start singing Mr. Crowley by Ozzy Osbourne, only I substitute her name in place of "Mr Crowley"...

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
11. Misleading headline. The actual provision is necessary to prevent audience members from grabbing
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 10:03 AM
Oct 2012

their "15 minutes" to spew whatever agenda they may bring.

Do you really want President Obama to end up answering question like:

"Why did you let the Government take over health care with death panels that will kill my grandma?" or

"Why did you let bin Laden get away? and thank GOD IN HEAVEN for top level navy seal Paul Ryan who, in spite of Obummer, slipped in there and killed him."

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
18. Good point. It also wipes away Pizza Hut-type questions.
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 10:27 AM
Oct 2012

PH withdrew their asinine offer anyways but it keeps anyone else from descending into that '15 minutes of fame' you mentioned.

Tennessee Gal

(6,160 posts)
12. So, Candy gets to select the questions to be asked by audience members?
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 10:09 AM
Oct 2012

I don't like that. Her bias towards the right is well known. In my mind that means that she will allow the audience to lob softballs at Mitt. The questions asked of Obama will be slanted to make him look bad.

At least that is the possibility I am envisioning.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
14. See how they fear the public? We get a dog-and-pony show managed by Crowley,
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 10:16 AM
Oct 2012

and it's called a "debate".

This could backfire to, if the audience gets in their face about it, challenges Crowley's authority to censor them: "Free speeh! Free speech! Who gave you the right to silence the American people?"

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
15. Yeah, that's what we need -more yelling and chanting. That should make for an informative debate.
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 10:19 AM
Oct 2012

There need to be rules or else it will be a confusing anarchic rumble instead of a Town Hall style debate.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
16. There isn't going to be any informative debate, that's the point.
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 10:25 AM
Oct 2012

And disruptions are much more informative than canned responses to canned questions.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
19. I agree there's nothing much to be gleaned from this 'debate'.
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 10:28 AM
Oct 2012

But Obama always does well in these formats -and Romney does not- so the 'charade' will come down on the plus side for us, regardless of the rules.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
20. I certainly hope so.
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 10:34 AM
Oct 2012

Lehrer was rightly savaged for his impotent moderating style. I expect Crowley will have a very hard time not showing her bias, the other extreme.

I'm basically with Liz Warren, the game is rigged, and the more that riggedness is exposed, the better for all of us.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
23. Conflicting rhetoric...
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 02:33 PM
Oct 2012

Just now on MSNBC Tamron Hall said "You don't know what the person in the audience, that everyday man or woman, is going to say in their question - how they're going to pose that question and that's the variable that no pundit, no expert on the air right now can determine before the question comes out of that person's mouth."

I am so weary and exhausted by all the conflicting messaging going on around this election. I may even give up on politics after this election as it has become such a joke in these modern times.

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