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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHoward Dean always gets is right.
Dean quoted Ted Kennedy, "I'm the pro-choice candidate,
Romney is the multiple choice candidate."
Dean went on to say Obama had to remain presidential.
Romney has become untethered from all previous positions
which makes anything he says unreliable. This would be
such a great point for Obama to make.
I wish Dean was in some position advising the President
on the two future debates.
Iggy
(1,418 posts)imho, things would have turned out my differently had Dean been the DEM candidate in 2004.
dkf
(37,305 posts)He said Biden's statement on Libya worked because he sounded authoritative when he said it, no matter the facts behind the case.
Nope I don't think that is how it works.
EmeraldCityGrl
(4,310 posts)Is privy to intelligence Ryan is not. Biden even made a point during
the debate that he had to be careful not to disclose confidential info.
Don't recall the exact quote.
dkf
(37,305 posts)And that is the problem...we assume Biden does know what happened.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Loose lips sink ships
This is a topic best left unexplored for the moment. It isn't to protect the administration. It is to protect our friends in the Middle East.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)upi402
(16,854 posts)"Have I told you how much I hate these people?"
-Malloy
CNN had the "Dean Scream" on a tape-loop and smeared him ceaselessly.
Worried the money machine had lost control of our elections, I guess.
MrSlayer
(22,143 posts)They didn't derail his nomination. He wasn't going to win, scream or not.
upi402
(16,854 posts)My hopeful opinion only, FWIW.
His money from the grassroots was painting a target on his back before his hoarse throat cuased his "I Have a Scream" speech-crime!
Myrina
(12,296 posts)... because vote hacking isn't just for the general election ...
MrSlayer
(22,143 posts)You're really reaching for shit on this one. I like Dean but he wasn't going to win the nomination and he didn't get cheated in Iowa.
Sekhmets Daughter
(7,515 posts)why he was cut loose from heading the DNC
dkf
(37,305 posts)Peregrine Took
(7,413 posts)Was Howard Dean too popular with the base and B.O. was jealous?
Howard did great with the "50 state strategy"
BuelahWitch
(9,083 posts)Sekhmets Daughter
(7,515 posts)It would probably get me banned.
Myrina
(12,296 posts)... Dean is a populist and neither if the 2 corporate-driven parties can allow TRUE populism to take hold.
Sekhmets Daughter
(7,515 posts)hootinholler
(26,449 posts)sevenseas
(114 posts)I love the humor on this site. Shows Democrats have a sense of humor, which is a sign of intelligence. Thanks- I will remember it even if Obama doesn't use it.
Baitball Blogger
(46,709 posts)Presidential, but firm. And he should never allow Romney to overshadow him. Calm, collect put-downs will be more effective in the long run.
2pooped2pop
(5,420 posts)Obama needs to hit him on his retroactive retirement, his retroactive showing of his taxes, his retroactive policy making. "Your time machine will not work for keeping the American people safe, Mr. Romney. It will not work for recovering from the economy mess brought on by borrowing money for war. It will not work for people who died because they have no insurance or ability to pay for health care. It will not work for the American people."
That's not reality Mr. Romney.
treestar
(82,383 posts)campaign. His performance there was more akin to Obama's "abysmal" debate performance. So how would he make a good coach for a debate? He's just like Obama in that way.
Which is why Kerry was a good one to pick, and if we want to blame this one on Kerry, wouldn't the obvious coach be Joe Biden?
ananda
(28,860 posts)nt
Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)spend it somewhere else "important! "
JNelson6563
(28,151 posts)build a strong party base without the DNC coming in to do it for them? How sad.
Julie
Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)necessary, but political parties, like team sports, do better working together. I don't know where you are from, but I am pretty sure it is not the South. What is sad is that you don't seem to realize this. If you are a progressive, I would think you would support all progressives, because true Progressives are the type that try to look out for those that need help. They do not seek to divide into smaller clicks which weaken the whole!
JNelson6563
(28,151 posts)And have walked the walk by investing years of my life working on local party building. As chair of a 14 county Congressional district I worked ridiculously hard to break the mindset that tightly clutched the paradigm that was daddy-will-save-us. In this case "daddy" was labor but those days are long gone.
Self sufficiency is the name of the game in the red zones. I live in one.
Of course once we started rockin' all on our own we suddenly drew interest and resources. If you've got nothing going on outside groups think if the locals won't invest their own efforts (much less money), why should we?
Frankly, they are right.
Julie
Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)I live around numerous very large refineries. These guys get paid well but work in dangerous conditions b/c the oil companies cut corners on the real expensive stuff (BP Texas City would not have blown up if they would have spent 2 million to put in a flare. They discussed doing it for over 30 years but never did)! Those guys do not seem to understand that they have what they have thanks to their Union and Democrats. Many do and they are the ones I work the fun raisers and knock on doors with. Have faith and just do what you can. That's what Democracy is truly about, at least for me!
JI7
(89,249 posts)the White House has had contact with Howard Dean regularly to discuss various issues.
Dean said he didn't think Romney won the first debate that it was a tie. that the PResident did well in laying out things like Facts.
Cha
(297,240 posts)a Good Democrat and help other Dems for the party which in turn helps the Country which leads Directly to Helping the Planet!
Bless his heart! I was a Deaniac around in here in 2004 but grew to love Kerry and the same with supporting Obama and Hillary in 2008.
The only thing that was helped by hammering away relentlessly at PBO and letting mitt slide was mittLies.
Thanks J17!
EmeraldCityGrl
(4,310 posts)In trying to read between the lines of Dean's comments, remaining
presidential was vital even if the President took some hits when Romney
used The Gish Gallup as his debate strategy. To have allowed that to happen
was their ultimate hope and Obama did not allow that to happen.
JI7
(89,249 posts)stronger and passionate when giving his responses. but there is no way he would have been able to get away with doing what Biden did as the President.
i saw the debate and i didn't think Romney won either. i was glad to hear Dean say what he did because i got kind of the same feeling watching the debate.
EmeraldCityGrl
(4,310 posts)that would apply to Willard.
"you are more democrat than I am with your latest positions - I would vote for you if I thought you really mean what you say."
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)As DNC chairman he really pushed the winning strategy. I may be wrong, but I've long credited the smarmy creep, Rahm Emmanuel for Dean's downfall. Thankfully he;s busy with his own problems and no longer has such influence.
Myrina
(12,296 posts)... alotta thanks for propping up, funding & raising visibility his senatorial campaign, eh?
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)I always felt he is as good or better on his feet than any Democrat out there.