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Puglover

(16,380 posts)
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 10:03 AM Oct 2012

Candy Crowley

How do folks feel about her moderating the next debate? I'll never forget how she practically sneered when she would talk about Al Gore. I'd be curious to see what people think? I personally don't like her one bit.

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Candy Crowley (Original Post) Puglover Oct 2012 OP
No way....... samplegirl Oct 2012 #1
She is Delores Umbridge from Harry Potter. JohnnyBoots Oct 2012 #2
I couldn't agree with you more... FarPoint Oct 2012 #31
I can't stand her and am nervous about her as a moderator. City Lights Oct 2012 #3
+1 LibGranny Oct 2012 #5
Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #47
See ya, wouldn't wanna be ya! siligut Oct 2012 #49
She has no business being part of the 4th estate. LiberalFighter Oct 2012 #56
Truer words were never spoken! Auntie Bush Oct 2012 #78
She is also a vegetarian who is into Transcendental Meditation. Mutiny In Heaven Oct 2012 #4
She certainly eats a lot of vegetables Zorro Oct 2012 #22
yeah and you don't see many obese vegans lynintenn Oct 2012 #23
Vegetarian, not vegan. Mutiny In Heaven Oct 2012 #34
Slip a plate of Twinkies onto her lectern. She won't even notice that there's a debate going on. 11 Bravo Oct 2012 #44
Nah, go directly to the Shame Sticks! backscatter712 Oct 2012 #72
And She said John Kerry was Elitist for Asking for Green Tea in Iowa JI7 Oct 2012 #62
Right Wing Media hack upi402 Oct 2012 #6
^^^ THIS ^^^ n/t BumRushDaShow Oct 2012 #11
Obama better watch out is all I say. Crowley is not a reporter. She's a ReTHUGLICAN! vaberella Oct 2012 #7
I don't like her at all. HappyMe Oct 2012 #8
There is a reason this cow pigliCON hack has been selected. I hope Mr. President does not try to be lonestarnot Oct 2012 #9
Cow? Really? Glitterati Oct 2012 #12
My sentiments exactly! Can't stand her, she is in the pocket of the RW, but name calling Fla Dem Oct 2012 #16
Yes. Necessary. lonestarnot Oct 2012 #17
Jabba the Moderator... backscatter712 Oct 2012 #51
I'm with you Warpy Oct 2012 #53
Candy Cowley Zorro Oct 2012 #82
She was practically in tears in 2000 because she asjr Oct 2012 #10
CNN has shifted to the right. I am sure that is why she is still there. GreenPartyVoter Oct 2012 #14
She's a wingnut lover, just about any of them, but particularly Hayley BARBOUR n/t UTUSN Oct 2012 #13
Can't stand her lunatica Oct 2012 #15
Right-wing to the core. Next question. nt. OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #18
She's going to be an unmitigated disaster Cali_Democrat Oct 2012 #19
cant stand her ...question... goclark Oct 2012 #20
Buy "This Is Going To Suck" futures. WilliamPitt Oct 2012 #21
Soledad O'Brien wasn't picked because she's Irish. lonestarnot Oct 2012 #30
Why Candy? Why not Rachel Maddow? lynintenn Oct 2012 #24
I love RM as much as the next DUer BUT senseandsensibility Oct 2012 #25
If you're going to dream, why not Amy Goodman? Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #32
Not in 1,000,000,000,000,000 years. UnrepentantLiberal Oct 2012 #66
But Liberals would. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #67
Oh, I would love to watch that. UnrepentantLiberal Oct 2012 #69
Imagine if she asked about New Orleans.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #74
I still remember her interview with Bill Clinton. U4ikLefty Oct 2012 #70
It's still on the site... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #75
This is CNN (Conservative News Network) we're talking about! backscatter712 Oct 2012 #59
Total Republican stooge NHDEMFORLIFE Oct 2012 #26
I cannot stand the sight of JanetLovesObama Oct 2012 #27
disappointed and not hopeful for fair. nt seabeyond Oct 2012 #28
From the little I've seen of her woolldog Oct 2012 #29
Mike Malloy knows Candy Crowley from when he worked at CNN... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #33
What agenda? n/t arthritisR_US Oct 2012 #37
He knows there are many in the media that are CIA plants. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #39
I have felt that way about Tom Brokaw, interesting. I would think having worked with her arthritisR_US Oct 2012 #55
His main memory of her was the staff having to race her to the doughnuts. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #63
Lol...that's not how I would want to be remembered! n/t arthritisR_US Oct 2012 #65
I just hope she doesn't try to throw he weight around. begin_within Oct 2012 #35
I don't think she is knows very much about America - and she was so sycophantic to Bush Douglas Carpenter Oct 2012 #36
Candy Crowley's sneers. Baitball Blogger Oct 2012 #38
She'll be awful, horrible! ananda Oct 2012 #40
I think she is repugnant. woofless Oct 2012 #41
She's trouble for Obama. He'll have to fight for his time. mnhtnbb Oct 2012 #42
Rmoney has an ally in Crowley. AllenVanAllen Oct 2012 #43
she is a female David Gregory Evergreen Emerald Oct 2012 #45
Candy Crowley is HORRID AND HOLLOW, and Obama should ignore her. ancianita Oct 2012 #46
Um, you may want to reword that... tavernier Oct 2012 #48
Obama needs to be training to deal with Cowley as well as rMoney. backscatter712 Oct 2012 #50
A real liberal would be able to skewer both Obama and Romney on many issues krispos42 Oct 2012 #52
When I think of her, I think of a box of donuts notadmblnd Oct 2012 #54
like Candy Cruller? mitchtv Oct 2012 #57
Curiosity.... mikki35 Oct 2012 #58
My bet is Candy tries to make Obama stand on a trapdoor over the Rancor pit... n/t backscatter712 Oct 2012 #60
Being a rabid republican EmeraldCityGrl Oct 2012 #61
We'll be fortunate if COLGATE4 Oct 2012 #64
Imagining that scene has a Lovecraftian effect on my sanity! backscatter712 Oct 2012 #68
She's a pig. Zoeisright Oct 2012 #71
Candy Crowley, what when wrong in your head? SaveAmerica Oct 2012 #73
Nothing can go worse than last time. Obama will be ready for anything... even Mamma Cass budkin Oct 2012 #76
Wretched choice... Mike Nelson Oct 2012 #77
At least she cares more about the public opinion of her than Jim Lehrer MjolnirTime Oct 2012 #79
Cannot stand her. ProfessionalLeftist Oct 2012 #80
I do not like her either -- she appeared to have a real crush on George Bush* Samantha Oct 2012 #81
i do not like her, but she knows that this could hurt her if she screws up. hrmjustin Oct 2012 #83
She's a lying press whore, a product of the MSMedia just1voice Oct 2012 #84
well she used to cream her panties over george w bush arely staircase Oct 2012 #85

City Lights

(25,171 posts)
3. I can't stand her and am nervous about her as a moderator.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 10:08 AM
Oct 2012

IMO, she is a GOP shill. Doesn't even try and hide her bias. She has no business moderating a presidential debate.

Response to City Lights (Reply #3)

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
78. Truer words were never spoken!
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 12:02 AM
Oct 2012

I used to call her pig face before she had all the plastic surgery and make over.

Mutiny In Heaven

(550 posts)
4. She is also a vegetarian who is into Transcendental Meditation.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 10:22 AM
Oct 2012

Not exactly GOP staples...

She also rebutted Little Bow-Creep and his crusade to discredit Martha Radditz:

http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2012/10/crowley-daily-caller-playing-the-refs-138059.html

My abiding hope is that she shills because, ya know, it's what happens in the mainstream media, rather than because she's a genuine RepubliNut. Maybe she'll see this as her chance to do a clean, impartial job.

I'm not saying that I'm a fan and I don't think the doubts expressed in this thread are unreasonable, just that (perhaps naively) I'm going to assume that she'll take the role seriously and not indulge in partisan chicanery.

Either way, she seems to telegraph how she intends to moderate here:

And if Obama or Romney is flatout lying?

“Look, these are two grown men,” Crowley says. “And if there are two grown men who should know what’s going on — or what should go on in this country — it’s them. So, I’m not sure either one of them needs me to defend them or go after the other guy or whatever.”

Crowley says such TV debates, like interviews on her Sunday morning show, “tend to be organic,” and you can’t predict or anticipate all that will happen — especially when it comes to live TV.

“Am I going to catch everything they say that is wrong?” she asks rhetorically. “No. Should I? Actually, I think, President Obama can figure out when Mitt Romney’s wrong, and Mitt Romney can figure out when Obama’s wrong.”

But, she adds, “That doesn’t mean I shouldn’t. I’m just telling you it’s an organic thing. That’s the way it works on the Sunday show. ... You plan one thing, and something else happens. So, there’s not a lot of promising you can do about what’s going to happen until you see what happens.”


If - and it remains a big if - I hope that means that President Obama will get the opportunity to be as eloquently forceful as the situation requires. Personally, I would like, if a candidate tells a blatant whopper, the moderator to have facts at their disposal for clarification purposes; for instance, Romney (or, in the interests of fairness, Obama) says something blatantly false and the President rebuts it - THEN the moderator should consider it part of the job to bring out the facts. Not just leave it so it looks like a game of "he said, she said" because the audience by default assumes both are merely peddling their agenda without regard for the truth.

However, if a candidate fails to call their opponent on falsehoods, I don't think the onus should flip to the moderator to mop up for them.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
72. Nah, go directly to the Shame Sticks!
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 11:01 PM
Oct 2012

In other words, sticks of butter rolled in sugar. See how many she scarfs down!

JI7

(89,249 posts)
62. And She said John Kerry was Elitist for Asking for Green Tea in Iowa
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 05:28 PM
Oct 2012

because you know those little people in Iowa don't know what Green TEA is. it just shows how elitist and out of touch he is.

upi402

(16,854 posts)
6. Right Wing Media hack
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 10:25 AM
Oct 2012

Last edited Sat Oct 13, 2012, 03:02 PM - Edit history (1)

Traitor to the 4th Estate and thereby the Republic it needs to serve.

I used to like her because she broke the 'news-babe' mold. But she's a whore and a traitor. (I'm being too reserved?)

vaberella

(24,634 posts)
7. Obama better watch out is all I say. Crowley is not a reporter. She's a ReTHUGLICAN!
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 10:25 AM
Oct 2012

She puts FOX news to shame.

 

lonestarnot

(77,097 posts)
9. There is a reason this cow pigliCON hack has been selected. I hope Mr. President does not try to be
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 10:28 AM
Oct 2012

"too nice" to her.

 

Glitterati

(3,182 posts)
12. Cow? Really?
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 10:33 AM
Oct 2012

Was that necessary?

I don't like Candy Crowley either, but that kind of name calling is best left to the republicans.

Fla Dem

(23,668 posts)
16. My sentiments exactly! Can't stand her, she is in the pocket of the RW, but name calling
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 10:44 AM
Oct 2012

of this nature is uncalled for.

asjr

(10,479 posts)
10. She was practically in tears in 2000 because she
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 10:28 AM
Oct 2012

thought Bush was going to lose. If she does moderate the next debate I will not be able to watch. How she has maintained her job at CNN is beyond my comprehension. She just may know where all the CNN bodies are buried.

goclark

(30,404 posts)
20. cant stand her ...question...
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 11:05 AM
Oct 2012

Does our PRESIDENT have to bow down to CandyBarf or can he
raise his eyebrow to give us a hint that CandyBarf is not playing
fair?






 

WilliamPitt

(58,179 posts)
21. Buy "This Is Going To Suck" futures.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 11:08 AM
Oct 2012

They're going to skyrocket in value when that fraud takes the stage.

lynintenn

(646 posts)
24. Why Candy? Why not Rachel Maddow?
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 11:46 AM
Oct 2012

This debate is so important and the fact that she is the moderator really makes it scary. I think the perception of the debaters performance has a lot to do with the moderator. Remember the negative reaction Jim Lehrer received for letting Romney take over. Romney looked like a petulant child to me but others on the right perceived this as a strength for him. The ability to take charge. I think there will be some yelling at the moderator on TV during this debate. She is a self pronounced republican just like Wolfe Blitzer. Isn't this a conflict. CNN is unwatchable these day and I was once a regular viewer. Erin Burnett makes my skin crawl.

senseandsensibility

(17,037 posts)
25. I love RM as much as the next DUer BUT
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 11:53 AM
Oct 2012

no network, even cable, would allow her to moderate a debate. That's how right even our middle of the road politics are skewed in this country. But, assuming that she was selected, I'm not sure that many Obama supporters would be that pleased. Yes, she would demand answers of Romney. But she would probably question Obama from the left, something he rarely has to face. It would be a whole different ballgame.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
32. If you're going to dream, why not Amy Goodman?
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 12:16 PM
Oct 2012

Want to talk hard hitting questions based on fact for both sides?

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
74. Imagine if she asked about New Orleans....
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 11:30 PM
Oct 2012

Specifically, what efforts have been done to rebuild and allow former residents to return.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
59. This is CNN (Conservative News Network) we're talking about!
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 04:42 PM
Oct 2012

They're determined to silence rational voices.

NHDEMFORLIFE

(489 posts)
26. Total Republican stooge
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 11:55 AM
Oct 2012

She always has been, always will be. I remember well her from her days as a "reporter," using that word very loosely, as CNN tends to do.

 

JanetLovesObama

(548 posts)
27. I cannot stand the sight of
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 12:04 PM
Oct 2012

Candy Crowley. Besides being a right wing lunatic she just looks dirty. She's gained back all that weight she was bragging about losing and her hair is always stringy and greasy looking. She makes my skin crawl.

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
29. From the little I've seen of her
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 12:05 PM
Oct 2012

She's very focused on the process of politics (ie horserace reporting) and not on substance/policy discussion. That goes for most of CNN

Basically the opposite of a real journalist like Martha Raddatz.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
33. Mike Malloy knows Candy Crowley from when he worked at CNN...
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 12:20 PM
Oct 2012

...let's just say there are some people in the media that are there as part of an agenda.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
39. He knows there are many in the media that are CIA plants.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 01:56 PM
Oct 2012

It's considered to be illegal for the CIA to do psyops on the American public but you know their track record of being a good law abiding agency.

arthritisR_US

(7,288 posts)
55. I have felt that way about Tom Brokaw, interesting. I would think having worked with her
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 04:09 PM
Oct 2012

his suspicions have more validity than mine which are based only on the disgust I have with both Brokaw and Crowley. Fairness is not what we are going to see at this next debate

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
36. I don't think she is knows very much about America - and she was so sycophantic to Bush
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 12:49 PM
Oct 2012

I recall her in all seriousness and with a straight face telling the story about how John Kerry asked for a green tea in a Howard Johnson's or some such type restaurant. She thought that was just so outlandish as if Sen. Kerry had ordered beluga caviar on melba toast with a glass of vintage Veuve Clicquot at the local Bob's Big Boy. She either didn't have any idea that green tea was a fairly common thing you can buy almost anywhere or she was just so determined to support the narrative that Bush was a man of the common people while Kerry was an out of touch elitist. Yet, as far as I know she has never suggested that Mitt Romney is an out of touch elitist. I don't think she is very smart and I don't think she is capable of minimally acceptable objective observation of the world around her.

woofless

(2,670 posts)
41. I think she is repugnant.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 01:58 PM
Oct 2012

I am hoping that the Town Hall format, in which the attendees ask the questions, will limit her input. If she were the one asking the questions, I doubt whether I would watch. (Love the mute button.)

AllenVanAllen

(3,134 posts)
43. Rmoney has an ally in Crowley.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 02:14 PM
Oct 2012

Last edited Sat Oct 13, 2012, 08:24 PM - Edit history (1)



If she turns out to be anywhere near as fair as Martha Raddatz I'd be very surprised, but I really doubt it. She's part of the reason I haven't watched CNN (Fox News-Lite) for years. She was a terrible pick.

Evergreen Emerald

(13,069 posts)
45. she is a female David Gregory
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 03:24 PM
Oct 2012

She uses right-wing talking points as the basis for questioning democrats ...and lets republicans spew shit with no push back

ancianita

(36,055 posts)
46. Candy Crowley is HORRID AND HOLLOW, and Obama should ignore her.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 03:27 PM
Oct 2012

She's a smarmy Rethuglican shill and should be put in her place if she tries to screw Obama during the debate!

tavernier

(12,388 posts)
48. Um, you may want to reword that...
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 03:51 PM
Oct 2012

Let's not take the chance of Obama running screaming out of the country because of that kind of a threat.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
50. Obama needs to be training to deal with Cowley as well as rMoney.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 03:58 PM
Oct 2012

Candy is not going to be a fair moderator - she'll be looking for every way possible to give rMoney the advantage.

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
52. A real liberal would be able to skewer both Obama and Romney on many issues
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 04:00 PM
Oct 2012

Because in many ways, Obama's policies haven't changed much from Bush's.


Let Thom Hartmann moderate.

mikki35

(111 posts)
58. Curiosity....
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 04:37 PM
Oct 2012

I'm glancing through all these nearly uniform condemnations of Candy Crowley as a self-avowed Republican, 'shilling for McCain', etc, etc, (I don't watch CNN anymore and didn't have a big opinion one way or the other, but I do remember her from years ago, and she wasn't shilling for anybody then) and I had to wonder...what's the take from Fox on this? Are they happy? Are they excited? And THIS is what I found (I should get a medal for willingly pointing my computer that direction....ewwwww):

"What the hell was the Presidential Commission on Debates thinking?"
"Seriously who approved this because they should be fired. Now."
"Candy Crowley and Bob Schieffer are haggard old media whores, truly sad-sack shills for institutional liberalism."
"Candy Crowley? Are you kidding me. She loves bashing Republicans almost as much as stuffing M&Ms in her mouth!"
"Crowley, Schieffer/CBS, Lehrer/PBS – are on record numerous times during the GOP primary and even more recently making points about “right wing extremism.”
"Romney and his VP better grow a pair and say NO! and HELL NO!! to Crowley, at least get Blitzer."
"CNN’s Candy Ryan-Ticket-Death-Wish Crowley is the token female this year."

There wasn't a single solitary favorable comment anywhere to be found 'over yonder.'

EmeraldCityGrl

(4,310 posts)
61. Being a rabid republican
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 05:04 PM
Oct 2012

she will IMHO look for her Katie Couric moment.
Couric buried Palin during that infamous interview
and was a superstar for Obama supporters.

Crowley will have to be cagey in order to do any
damage, but given the opportunity she will take it.

I wish these debates were moderated by academics
or some other qualified professionals.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
68. Imagining that scene has a Lovecraftian effect on my sanity!
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 10:31 PM
Oct 2012

Last edited Sat Oct 13, 2012, 11:07 PM - Edit history (2)



Pass the brain bleach!

budkin

(6,703 posts)
76. Nothing can go worse than last time. Obama will be ready for anything... even Mamma Cass
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 11:52 PM
Oct 2012

He better bring some ham sandwiches if she gets out of line.

 

MjolnirTime

(1,800 posts)
79. At least she cares more about the public opinion of her than Jim Lehrer
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 12:07 AM
Oct 2012

She's too vain to endure that much criticism.

Therefore, she won't be completely in the bag for Mitt.

ProfessionalLeftist

(4,982 posts)
80. Cannot stand her.
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 12:10 AM
Oct 2012

She cannot (and doesn't even try to) hide her political "preferences". She is so NOT an impartial reporter and will most likely not be an impartial moderator, either.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
81. I do not like her either -- she appeared to have a real crush on George Bush*
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 12:19 AM
Oct 2012

and when I hear her name, the first thing I think about is her snarky comments about Gore when he was running for President in 2000. Really poor judgment on her part.

Sam

 

just1voice

(1,362 posts)
84. She's a lying press whore, a product of the MSMedia
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 02:47 AM
Oct 2012

She's a vile human being and venal -- "Capable of betraying honor, duty, or scruples for a price".

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/venal

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
85. well she used to cream her panties over george w bush
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 02:52 AM
Oct 2012

so she must be "fair and balanced"

in the FN sense of the term (though on CNN)

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