Beware of bad news trolls...Let them sink

[Sugarcoated]

I've seen several doom and gloom threads, all from low post counters.

Ignore them and let them sink.

It shows to me Biden hit a nerve, and I do love that their onions are good and scorched.

[graham4anything]

1. Yup!

one has 44 posts of polls, all slanted from worse to worst and not one positive

it's the politics of demoralization

they are very scared. Their Mittens gave it his best, but his best wasn't good enough, and little Glove was horrible. They have been exposed and have nothing left.

Showed their Ryan to be not ready for primetime same as Sarah and Quayle weren't qualified.

[greatauntoftriplets]

9. That one was forced to walk the plank.

[flamingdem]

14. mitt and little glove!

[Cha]

20. "mitt and little glove"!

[Lone_Star_Dem]

2. Gee, does this mean no poking them with a sharp stick?

Pooh. Your just like my mom. "Don't be mean back to them, darling. No matter how much they goad you, you must remember they didn't have the advantage of the family you had growing up."

I don't think my mom knew they were gonna grow up to be hate filled Teabaggers though. Maybe she would have just let me verbally put them in their childish, bully place back then if she'd known.

[arely staircase]

8. i am torn

i like the sharp stick, but am painfully aware it kicks them up when i use it.

but again, i like the stick.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

12. Maybe if we set ourselves boundaries?

Something like, one small poke with the sharp stick of truth, but only for every tenth one we see?

It's all about personal restraint. However, stay out of Politics 2012 if you set this restraint. They're a dime a dozen there. You'll spend all your time poking and no time getting anything else done!

[Indpndnt]

11. I prefer the stick approach, myself.

But then some DUers jump in and say, "Don't be so meeeeaaaan!" Which just enables the trolls and starts them up again. I can't believe we actually have to yell, "TROLL!" before saying anything else. Silly.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

13. This is my third presidential election here.

DU has no room to talk about being mean. Zero. Trust me on that one.

I started out here close to this time of year in 2004. I was called a troll and I'm a better Democrat for it. I am mean now, and DU is in part responsible for my "take no crap" attitude. I owe this place more than I can ever repay for making me able to stand up to the Rightwingers. Now I'm tough, and educated on the issues.

This isn't the "good old days" of politics. It's an age of Teabaggers trying to steal my rights. And in some states, they're doing just that!

Sometimes a little poking is a good thing. It separates the wheat from the chaff. Or the Democrats from the trolls, as the case may be.

[Indpndnt]

22. Thanks! BTW, the specific one I was referencing just got his latest trolling thread hidden.

Yeah, he said Joe was unprofessional and other nonsense. Hopefully, he'll be tombstoned soon.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021528853

[Lone_Star_Dem]

25. They're breeding like kochroaches!

I just stole "kochroaches" from DUer Cha. I'm thrilled I got to use it so soon!!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=138696

[DisabledAmerican]

27. Just have to remember DO NOT BUY WHAT THEY ARE SELLING

no matter what

[Lone_Star_Dem]

41. All I keep hearing in my head is...

*crunch* "Oh, I'm sorry. Was that your auntie?"

We need to *crunch* more kochroaches!

[Indpndnt]

54. Yes!!!

http://movieclips.com/DBnPT-men-in-black-movie-was-that-your-auntie/

[DisabledAmerican]

56. This thread is full of them

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251138625

There is even one that goes on to talk about how angry she is and shows how much hate she has for the President. I can't believe the comments are allowed in that thread. They are hitting General and 2012

[Indpndnt]

30. Oh, that's got to be a meme, now!

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Grotesque little creatures! [url=http://www.cosgan.de/smilie.php][img][/img][/url]

[Lone_Star_Dem]

40. I told Cha I was stealing it.

So, feel free to propagate the meme!

It has so much potential, no?

[wordpix]

33. "Joe was unprofessional" ---unf-ingbelievable! He was masterful and his laughing at Ryan was great

[DisabledAmerican]

35. It just means more people are waking up to what we are facing

A educated mass is a good thing. We educate them so that everyone can spot what is going on. He/she will be back in a hour. I would however point out that when the OP answered questions in the thread it was with the word NO. No matter what anyone said it was that persons answer that only mattered.

[Cha]

51. What a Bunch of Blatant Pig Slop..

Yeah, There be trolls. Lurking and sneaking around.. waiting for their chance to Pounce!

[99Forever]

59. That was my alert.

(Beats just "letting them sink," IMO. Puts 'em on the troll radar screen)



Always happy to do my patriotic duty.

[Indpndnt]

60. Well, then!

[url=http://www.cosgan.de/smilie.php][img][/img][/url]


[url=http://www.cosgan.de/smilie.php][img][/img][/url]

[easttexaslefty]

28. You know,

I've never thought about it from tha perspective. You're right, though.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

39. I've used DU as a training ground of sorts.

And a resource of information.

I've learned from here how to effectively stand up for my rights. Both as a Democrat, and as a Democrat living in Texas. No easy thing to be on DU at times.

I've learned how to frame modern political arguments. How to debate, and debunk current RW political memes.

The admin would be proud if they saw me in the field. I'm tough, and I never have to lose my cool. I'm a lean, mean, political fighting machine. Which I was not when I first found this place. I was too polite, too sweet. Now I'm as polite as I can be, but I am not walked on by the lying RWers.

This place has taught me much. I'm a modern Democrat now, version 2.0.

[Samantha]

50. Hey, I came here in 2001, entering this site "yelling" where were they, where were they

complaining about the Dems who do not stand up for Gore during the recount controversy. To say I was repeatedly flamed is kind of an understatement. I personally do not like to fight; I like civil conversations when it comes to politics but I was angry at the Dems who abandoned Gore at the time he most needed them, and I wanted answers. Those flames made a fighter out of me too, I didn't back down, and eventually some even came to agree with me. I have been here for a long time and made some great friends, but I am a different person now than when I came here -- for the better.

Sam

[backscatter712]

17. I'm for verbally abusing them...

If they want to troll here, I recommend dogpiling them until they need therapy!

[Lone_Star_Dem]

18. Hey, I know you!

Remember that one time in the dogpile?

Yep, done that before. Nothing like killing their meme, and their buzz, all in one swoop!

[DisabledAmerican]

26. I try to do what I can through respect

I got one person to close a thread on his/her own by pushing back to do the honorable thing

[backscatter712]

42. Why should we respect those that don't respect us.

This is our board. This is a board for Democrats and Progressives. For right-wingers and authoritarian flaks to misrepresent themselves to poison discussion here is inherently dishonest and disrespectful to us.

Fuck 'em. I'd rather inflict PTSD on them.

This is our board. If you can't support our candidates or causes, go somewhere else.

[DisabledAmerican]

45. yes but with them trying to do the victim model

They want us to do something stupid so we can be reported first. There are some that are out there to do that to. That is why I try to play it cool with them and let them slip up.

[Tarheel_Dem]

32. ^^^^ THIS ^^^^! And I'm told I'm pretty good at it. In some circles of DU, I'm called....

"bully"; "bot"; "cheerleader" and other assorted variations. I don't mind. I'm a Democrat dammit. I don't mind a fight, and I like cussin'.

[defacto7]

52. That just puts them on the top of the pile.

Most trolls I have dealt with on other sites enjoy the attention actually. Dogpile them and they ignore you.

The most effective thing you can do is single word them if you can make them slip or ignore. If you have the power, you just extinguish them which removes their fun and bye bye.

[DisabledAmerican]

3. They waited till talking points were out

We will win and if you feel legit nervous then go make phone calls and go door to door to talk to real people and help get Obama Elected GET OUT THE VOTE PEOPLE! If you are nervous do something about it get Obama elected!

[Honeycombe8]

4. I haven't seen them. What do you call gloom & doom? nt

[DisabledAmerican]

6. It will start out like this I'm so Nervous! New Polls show Obama losing

Obama Messed up in the debate. Oh WOrries me we are going to lose this one. Oh No on No Biden didn't follow the rules of the Debate. It's all over run for the hills! Trust me you will notice the Sky is falling people or DoomSayers.

[Honeycombe8]

7. Oh...I guess my eyes glide over those. Yeah, that's weird. Someone actually said Biden didn't

follow the rules? Now that's suspicious.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

16. Take a field trip into Politics 2012.

I did earlier. I read four posts in order of top one on down. Two of the ones I hit were "woe is all the Democratic party" posts. I laughed, and made a snark as I left.

It's typical for the season. You'd have to be a Bagger to be small minded enough for that crap to work on you.

[Baitball Blogger]

5. Now that you mention it, they may be burning their powder early.

[Doodler71]

10. Psychological warfare

beware of the negative posts and hand wringers. They will drag you down with their endless anxiety laced posts. Worrying is absolutely pointless. Worrying more will do nothing positive, but it can do damage. There is no upside, no pay off, it is only damaging to the morale of those around you. Eeyore doesn't make you feel like going out and taking up a challenge it makes you want to give up and quit. This is too important of an election to quit. We don't quit until the last ballot is counted.

"One of the most powerful yet commonly overlooked aspects of warfare is that of psychological manipulation. People are often made so aware of the brutality and violence of war itself, that they ignore a commonly employed weapon, known as psychological warfare. World War II offers a vivid example of psychological warfare and they way it was employed to target the morale and sentiment of numerous troops. The most fascinating means of dissemination was in the form of leaflets dropped from bomber planes. These paper filled bombs contained messages intended to curb the motivation and enthusiasm of the soldiers. For example, some leaflets depicted scenes of marital infidelity, a theme that no doubt touched on an insecurity felt by many soldiers. The power of psychological warfare, when performed succesfully, is the inability of those being brainwashed to defend themselves against its effect. Psychological warfare aims at the insecurities and desires of its targets and uses these as a means of acheiving objectives."

From Stanford Professor of Psychology E. Roberts

http://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~eroberts/courses/ww2/projects/psychological-warfare/index.html

[flamingdem]

15. The MSM is using that - how else can you explain Ryan / Biden as a draw? Abc, Nbc, Cbs

Fuck them. Joe won big. From here on we're on our own. We have to make our own news and push it around

[DisabledAmerican]

21. They want their narrative that we are depressed to fit in

Only if we are depressed can their memo more Republicans will be voting work. We have to push by back getting more Dems out to do Get out the vote. Fight back against their narrative and never give up because if you are nervous it just means put more energy out towards doing something positive.

[flamingdem]

24. We're in good shape compared to the Republicans

if we stay optimistic and as you say gotv!

[DisabledAmerican]

29. I agree and I think we can win!

[Cha]

19. Not just the threads.. they hop on to a positive

Biden or Obama thread and post their little negative Spin. They aren't Fooling anyone except those who have the same agenda.

[DisabledAmerican]

31. They do fool some

There are those who will defend them and claim the victim card have to be prepared to be attacked because some of them try to turn it around as us being mean to them and they are the victim.

[Cha]

37. Exactly! Didn't word that very well but,

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talking about those, whatever their agenda is, who call us bullies for questioning trolls..

[DisabledAmerican]

46. Yep and you notice how I've tried not to fall for their game

If you know their traps you can avoid them.

[quinnox]

23. rw trolls are popping up constantly

just tonight two threads have been hidden made by them. Fuck them all!

[Tarheel_Dem]

34. They're either trolls, or somebody's fired up one helluva sock drawer. I say Skinner should....

suspend the rules until the election, and we should just have it out with 'em, and I don't just mean the low posters either.

[Cha]

38. I have a fresh pile

in my Ignore stash! It's so nice! It keeps me from being tempted to reply and it's just wonderful not to have to see that garbage day after day year after year.

[Tarheel_Dem]

44. Exactly. Up until about a week ago, I only had 2 iggies. I'm up to 13 now. Much more....

pleasant DU experience for the past few days. Even some long timers (you know the ones), who weren't joining in the celebration when the polling was good, couldn't wait to get back here as soon as the polling took a turn. One particularly disgusting post, in this very thread, was allowed to stand by "a jury".

Their job is to demoralize, but let's see what next week's polling, and a brand new debate bring.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

36. The Worst Thing About These Trolls Is They Are Preventing Legitimate Concerns From Being Aired

I have some legitimate concerns I'd like to share with my fellow DUERS but I will not for fear of comforting and abetting our enemy.

[JackN415]

49. not really... one can distinguish legit rape.. erh I mean legit concern

vs. one designed to rile and irritate. Usually, if one replies with reason, the troll would try to un-unskew it again to irritate people. Their irrationality and brazen motive would become obvious.

[U4ikLefty]

43. Funny, many on DU use the same garbage against Occupy.

I guess it "different" when they do it.

[Cha]

48. I don't. Occupy does its thing and

some of us are trying to win an election. I'd like if they were wanting the same thing.

[JackN415]

47. we know what to do...

[The Wizard]

53. concern trolls

fuck 'em.

[K8-EEE]

55. SO sick of it!!! Fuck the bad news trolls. nt

[Festivito]

57. How about beware of the Beware of bad news trolls.

Express your discontent.
Don't assent with silence.

[MaeScott]

58. I was reading the debate live threads over at DKos.....

....and the boo birds were flocking and clutching pearls like crazy..... Joe is laughing and he's too argumentative, they wrote..
My response was simply, "clutch your pearls later, right now Joe is great"

Over and over.