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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 04:56 PM Oct 2012

(Hack) Poll Shows Romney Leading Obama among Jews

The poll in question is the IBD/TIPP.

Yesterday: IBD/TIPP Tracking Poll: Romney Up 5
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/ibd-tipp-tracking-poll-romney-up-5

Today: IBD/TIPP 2012 Presidential Election Romney +1.2
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251133304

It's like the pollster is just inventing numbers.

Just found this:

Poll Shows Romney Leading Obama among Jews

Eyebrow-raising TIPP tracking poll shows Romney with 44% versus 40% for Obama among likely Jewish voters.

By Gil Ronen

A tracking poll published Thursday by TIPP for Investors' Business Daily shows the hard-to-believe statistic of 44% support for Mitt Romney among likely Jewish voters, versus 40% for Obama, with 16% undecided.

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If the numbers are in any way close to representing reality, they reflect an unprecedented shift in Jewish voting preferences. Jews have voted overwhelmingly for Democratic presidential candidates for decades. Obama enjoyed 78% of the Jewish vote in the 2008 election.

Jewish support for Obama has been slipping recently. In September, the TIPP poll gave him 59% versus 35% for Romney. That in itself was seen as quite an accomplishment for Romney. It was not far from the 40 percent number in support of Dwight Eisenhower recorded by Jews in 1956, which was the highest backing by Jews for a Republican in nearly a century.

Just one day ago, on Wednesday, the TIPP tracking poll showed Obama leading Romney 47%-25%. This makes Thursday's numbers appear like a wild fluke or a mistake. However, these are the numbers that currently appear on the IBD/TIPP website.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/160788



Media Matters on IBD/TIPP in 2010:

Nate Silver: Poll is "simply not credible."


"they had John McCain winning the youth vote 74-22"


http://mediamatters.org/research/2010/03/17/siegel-uses-not-scientific-ibdtipp-poll-to-prop/161803

These are the kind of polls being used to drag down the President's margin in the poll averages.




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(Hack) Poll Shows Romney Leading Obama among Jews (Original Post) ProSense Oct 2012 OP
Investors Business Daily sharp_stick Oct 2012 #1
It's not up to me to toss them out ProSense Oct 2012 #3
Oh I know sharp_stick Oct 2012 #4
Complete nonsense Nancy Waterman Oct 2012 #2
Romney leading among Jews? Cali_Democrat Oct 2012 #5
The funniest part is ProSense Oct 2012 #8
McCain winning youth vote 74-22 ? HAHAHHAHAHAH JI7 Oct 2012 #6
Want to bet ProSense Oct 2012 #10
This is very good news cthulu2016 Oct 2012 #7
Oh yeah...right... PCIntern Oct 2012 #9

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
1. Investors Business Daily
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 04:57 PM
Oct 2012

That's all you need to see before tossing out anything they have to say. I'm surprised they don't rename to Newsmax-Business or something.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
10. Want to bet
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 06:17 PM
Oct 2012

that they're game is to pick a constituent group and skew it, hoping that no one will scrutinized their data?

I mean, WTF?

PCIntern

(25,568 posts)
9. Oh yeah...right...
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 05:44 PM
Oct 2012

The 75-25 is about right IMO from discussions with many many many Jews over the past year. Funny thing is, that I haven't talked to one undecided Jew yet this year.

L'chaim!!!!

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