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The poll in question is the IBD/TIPP.
Yesterday: IBD/TIPP Tracking Poll: Romney Up 5
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/ibd-tipp-tracking-poll-romney-up-5
Today: IBD/TIPP 2012 Presidential Election Romney +1.2
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251133304
It's like the pollster is just inventing numbers.
Just found this:
Eyebrow-raising TIPP tracking poll shows Romney with 44% versus 40% for Obama among likely Jewish voters.
By Gil Ronen
A tracking poll published Thursday by TIPP for Investors' Business Daily shows the hard-to-believe statistic of 44% support for Mitt Romney among likely Jewish voters, versus 40% for Obama, with 16% undecided.
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If the numbers are in any way close to representing reality, they reflect an unprecedented shift in Jewish voting preferences. Jews have voted overwhelmingly for Democratic presidential candidates for decades. Obama enjoyed 78% of the Jewish vote in the 2008 election.
Jewish support for Obama has been slipping recently. In September, the TIPP poll gave him 59% versus 35% for Romney. That in itself was seen as quite an accomplishment for Romney. It was not far from the 40 percent number in support of Dwight Eisenhower recorded by Jews in 1956, which was the highest backing by Jews for a Republican in nearly a century.
Just one day ago, on Wednesday, the TIPP tracking poll showed Obama leading Romney 47%-25%. This makes Thursday's numbers appear like a wild fluke or a mistake. However, these are the numbers that currently appear on the IBD/TIPP website.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/160788
Media Matters on IBD/TIPP in 2010:
http://mediamatters.org/research/2010/03/17/siegel-uses-not-scientific-ibdtipp-poll-to-prop/161803
These are the kind of polls being used to drag down the President's margin in the poll averages.
sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)That's all you need to see before tossing out anything they have to say. I'm surprised they don't rename to Newsmax-Business or something.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)They are being treated as credible in all the poll averages.
sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)I'm not blaming you, I promise.
I appreciate you putting the polls out
Nancy Waterman
(6,407 posts)No way this is close to true.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)ProSense
(116,464 posts)the numbers are jumping around, like they're pulling them out of a hat.
JI7
(89,259 posts)ProSense
(116,464 posts)that they're game is to pick a constituent group and skew it, hoping that no one will scrutinized their data?
I mean, WTF?
cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)I means one need pay no further attention to TIPP
PCIntern
(25,568 posts)The 75-25 is about right IMO from discussions with many many many Jews over the past year. Funny thing is, that I haven't talked to one undecided Jew yet this year.
L'chaim!!!!