Who believes there needs to be stiffer penalties for interfering with the voting process?

[nobodyspecial]

I don't care which side does it, but people need to be going to jail for a long time and fined to the heavens. The fact that the same players keep doing the same slimy things under different names is unconscionable to me. The voting process needs to be open and fair and let the chips fall where they may.

Who's with me on this?

[Uncle Joe]

1. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, nobodyspecial.

[Posteritatis]

2. Hell, I'd be happy with seeing the current penalties actually enforced. (nt)

[We People]

6. My thoughts exactly! n/t

[shrdlu]

21. Me too...

...in My Texas county it is very near impossible to get the D.A. (an elected official) to file on violators.

[uponit7771]

41. +1!

[Tigress DEM]

47. YEP

[GoCubsGo]

3. Yes. Absolutely, there does.

[annabanana]

4. The process should be sacrosanct!

If there is no legitimacy of the franchise, there is no legitimacy for America. There is no Country if the whole concept of self governance has flown out the window.

[ProfessionalLeftist]

5. Damn right! n/t

[PDJane]

7. Yes. Just yes, damnit.

This is messing around with the most important part of democracy, and it's a crime.

[tk2kewl]

8. I think that similar to hate crime designations there needs to be a ...

"Violation of the public trust" rider that can be applied to all sorts of crimes where people abuse power be it as a public official or corporate officer

[Panasonic]

9. Life without parole, confined in a 3x3 room, with just gruel and dirty water.

And damn the Constitution (because they broke it).

[FiveGoodMen]

14. I'd choose the death penalty over that

(whether I was dishing it out or taking it!)

[bigmonkey]

10. Should be a felony.

Pretty simple, actually.

[loudsue]

11. I'd like to see jail time for any elections official who is caught messing with the

ballots or the computers that count the ballots. That goes for the agents or contractors or employees acting on behalf of the elections official to change even one vote. They should both face jail time.

[FiveGoodMen]

12. Count me in!

[southernyankeebelle]

13. Any normal person should feel this way no matter what party they belong to. But I

guess republicans say if fine as long as they get away with it.

[Raster]

15. Absolutely. Interfering with the electoral process is akin to electoral treason....

...and should be punished as such.

[jaysunb]

16. 25 to life...only a step below treason.

I've been saying this since 2000.

[hrmjustin]

17. needs to be a felony, and we need a constitutional amendment that says we have the right to vote.

[SCVDem]

18. Let me repeat!

When lives have been lost at home and abroad, all in the quest for open, democratic voting rights, then the penalty for willfully attempting or causing more than a single vote to change or be discarded, shall be death!

We cannot slap the wrist for an offense which America holds as a core value of our Republic.

It's that important!

[Brilly]

19. Shocked that there isn't already!!!

There should be huge jail time for this!!! No if's or but's about it!!
Maybe then whomever chooses to do this goes away for a long time!!!

[backscatter712]

20. Death penalty for whole-sale election fraud!

That includes hacking voting machines, stuffing ballot boxes, and especially voter suppression.

Essentially it's treason against our democracy. Punish treason with death.

[ffr]

22. Then Karl Rove will have a new address

Prison.

[LiberalElite]

33. Why wait?

The m-f should be there now. Sometimes I swear I wonder why God lets him live.

[ChaoticTrilby]

23. TAR AND FEATHER'EM!

...Or, you know, just execute them/imprison them for life. That works too. Brand them as traitors to boot. Voting is what democracy is all about. If anyone tries to mess with that process, then they obviously hate the essence of the United States. Or they're excessively ambitious idiots. Either way, the world would be better off without them.

[nobodyspecial]

39. I don't believe in executions.

Not going there with you.

[ChaoticTrilby]

44. Understandable.

I'd actually prefer if they were locked up for life (or a very long time.) But, for those states that are gung-ho about executions, "traitors" and "taking crimes seriously" usually mean death and it would be difficult to convince them otherwise.
That was why I mentioned execution at all, even though I don't really support it either.

[calimary]

24. TOTALLY with you on this!

They yammer on about how they're so "law and order."

Let's sic the law and order on them!

What I'd like to see is some devious Dems getting into office. I'd like to see them huddle together in private and figure out how to get around everything they're trying to do to subvert what we've tried to build. Like, what kind of language could we be using in new bills or amendments - that maybe the bad guys won't be totally alert about until it's too late and the bill is voted in?

How about OUR loading up their cockamamie 13th-Century ideas with all kinds of amendments that make it impossible for them to vote for it? Like, every time they put forth an anti-choice bill or try to otherwise screw Planned Parenthood or further crimp access to abortion or something - slip in an amendment calling for taxing the churches and religious institutions for politicking. Or leveling a surtax on every five million dollar increment in income. Or cementing the separation of church and state into some sort of sneaky-but-permanent status. Or mandating tit-for-tat - ANY HEALTH ISSUE OR MEDICATION that men can get for their dicks or their prostate is tied directly to women's equally-easy access to birth control. Or - if you want this, then it has to be illegal for pharmacists to refuse to fill some prescription because they have some stupid-ass lame religion issue!

I think we need a double-secret-probation task force of the most trusted Dems to figure out stealth tactics to thwart the bad guys' agenda and further our own. Yeah, I'm talking about fighting dirty. ABSO-FUCKIN-LUTELY!!!!!! You better believe I'm talking about fighting dirty. As long as they do, WE HAVE TO. Trying to cooperate with them hasn't worked. Trying to reach out to them hasn't worked. Trying to find common ground with them hasn't worked. Trying to offer compromises hasn't worked. Let's try something else. I'd recommend ball-twisting (since most of them are men).

[City Lights]

25. *Raises hand*!

Totally with you! Maybe it's time to write letters to my Senators and my Rep.

[Fresh_Start]

26. I think they should be disenfranchised for the rest of their lives

and a prison sentence.
A little of an eye for an eye....

[DemzRock]

27. As much as murder.

Not kidding. Our leaders decisions lead to wars, health policy, and polution controls, all things that can lead to the death of our fellow Americans.

If proven, life in prison.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

28. I'd like to see the kind of SWAT raids one would expect for a crack house.

[spanone]

29. treason

[Vidar]

30. I do.

[LiberalElite]

31. Absolutely!

I can't believe this is happening and it's apparently LEGAL. People were imprisoned and some died fignting for the right to vote! Voting is a human right! We have the nerve to criticize third-world dictatorships and look at what's happening in our own country, with the collusion of our own citizens (GOPTP)!

[TexasProgresive]

32. A felony conviction- bared from voting for life.

must stay 1000 feet from polls during elections, have signs marking house that a convicted election interferer lives here. Model it like the laws for sexual predators.

[Aerows]

35. Good idea

I am in favor of it.

[Aerows]

34. I am *raises hand*

I'm sick of anything that interferes with the right of US citizens to vote. It is against everything our country stands for.

[mamayo]

36. can we start with.....

James Okeefe??

[Citizen Worker]

37. Be careful to not overlook the remedy side of the equation. In other words, what is the fix when

criminal activity has been found? Will the loser be declared the winner and assume office or will the election be held a second time?

[DhhD]

38. Voter suppression or assault at the voting area is domestic terrorism to me. Yes it should be a

federal crime that is punishable. No one has the right to detain and remove your citizenship.

[aquart]

49. No fly list membership.

[nobodyspecial]

40. Glad to see all of the support

Can't condone the death penalty, though. Even for this.

[Festivito]

42. Does three strikes apply? /nt

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

43. Kick

Jail time, heavy fines and removal of their right to vote for 10 years.

[nobodyspecial]

52. I would go for a lifetime voting ban

[upi402]

45. me

and i want a party to fight the corruption instead of keeping powder dry and spines flexible

[99Forever]

46. Ya mean there's penalties for it now?

Will wonders never cease? Have they ever been enforced?

[Kurovski]

48. Oh yes.

Yes yes yes.

It's too easy, and when the perps get out, they generally are not exactly shunned in political circles. (wink wink)

[veness]

50. Essential. n/t

[randr]

51. The fact that we can account for every red cent spent every day

is all the proof I need to see that our voting system is not only flawed but rigged.

[mother earth]

53. Total voting & campaign finance reform needed...there's no reasonable explanation it hasn't been

accomplished...what we have is an oligarchy & two past stolen elections, not to mention all other incidents to manipulate the vote.
All this is allowed to continue as status quo in our pseudo-democracy...WHY?...it's completely shameful & inexcusable.

[on point]

54. Draconian penalties. 20 yrs at least plus bankrupt who ever put them up to it (plus life for them)

[bemildred]

55. Oh F88K yeah. nt