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KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 12:03 PM Oct 2012

Pew study suggests: RW pulpit politics may be behind the sharp drop in Protestants

The study by the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life found that Protestants now make up 48% of Americans, compared with nearly two-thirds in the 1970s. The decline, concentrated among white members of both mainline and evangelical denominations, is amplified by an absence of Protestants on the U.S. Supreme Court and the Republican presidential ticket for the first time.
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Two-thirds of the religiously unaffiliated still say they believe in God, she said. But they overwhelmingly expressed disenchantment with religious organizations for being too concerned with money, power, rules and politics.

The study did not give reasons fewer Americans now identify with any religion. But it presented theories that included political backlash against the religious right,...

In a counterweight to evangelical Christians who tend to back Republicans, the vast majority of religiously unaffiliated Americans — who number 46 million — vote Democratic and are politically liberal, the study found. Two-thirds support President Obama, compared with 27% for Republican nominee Mitt Romney. A majority of the unaffiliated support legal abortion and same-sex marriage.


http://articles.latimes.com/2012/oct/09/local/la-me-protestants-20121010

The trend is strongest at the younger end of the range with 33% of young adults having no religious affiliation comapred with just 9% of Americans over 65 years of age.


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Pew study suggests: RW pulpit politics may be behind the sharp drop in Protestants (Original Post) KurtNYC Oct 2012 OP
This makes me so happy: Arugula Latte Oct 2012 #1
George Carlen... Whiskeytide Oct 2012 #6
Why am I not surprised? LongTomH Oct 2012 #2
I think demanding that church goers vote for Ayn Rand's guy KurtNYC Oct 2012 #3
MORE tax deductible M&Ms, pizza parties, and vaca . . . . I mean, uh, mission trips. nt patrice Oct 2012 #4
I'm part of the 2/3rd religiously unaffiliated. BlueCaliDem Oct 2012 #5
I am part of this group. I consider myself "anti-theist" Dawson Leery Oct 2012 #7
did you mean "do NOT believe in the scriptures..." ? KurtNYC Oct 2012 #8
I do NOT believe in them at all. Dawson Leery Oct 2012 #9
couple hundred years we should have religiousity all but wiped out snooper2 Oct 2012 #10
"We" aren't wiping them out. Wednesdays Oct 2012 #12
When you see the huge amount of money some religions have poured into their churches,.... OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #11
Ya think? mick063 Oct 2012 #13
Hey! I didn't work my way up the obvious ranks for nothing... KurtNYC Oct 2012 #14
when was the last time either ticket had no Protestants? KurtNYC Oct 2012 #15
I quit going to church when Bush became president. Freedomofspeech Oct 2012 #16
People want to gather around the Beatitudes. xchrom Oct 2012 #17
The hypocrisy... marions ghost Oct 2012 #19
One version of the response to this study mentioned some of that. KurtNYC Oct 2012 #20
Christians - the most casual Christian - Knows xchrom Oct 2012 #22
i wasn't raised with religion shanti Oct 2012 #18
Not a surprise other than it is a pleasant surprise to hear of people thinking for themselves. Whovian Oct 2012 #21
 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
1. This makes me so happy:
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 12:10 PM
Oct 2012

"A third of adults under 30 have no religious affiliation, compared with just 9% among those 65 and older."

Hopefully that trend will continue and accelerate.

I dream of a day when religion is tossed on the dustbin of history ... *sigh*

Whiskeytide

(4,461 posts)
6. George Carlen...
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 12:36 PM
Oct 2012

... go to 1:16 re Sex criminals

"You could outlaw religion and most of these sex crimes would disappear in a couple of generations, but we don't have time for rational solutions".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=OmJ2snsLxWw

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
2. Why am I not surprised?
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 12:11 PM
Oct 2012

Actually, this trend has been going on for years. I was seeing articles on the decline of religious affiliation among young people since Y2K.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
5. I'm part of the 2/3rd religiously unaffiliated.
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 12:34 PM
Oct 2012

And I agree 100% with the reasons why I refuse to attend church anymore although I'm still Protestant.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
7. I am part of this group. I consider myself "anti-theist"
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 01:18 PM
Oct 2012

meaning I do NOT believe in the scriptures of organized religions.

Yes, the right wing politics of the church have to do with why I am no longer religious.

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
8. did you mean "do NOT believe in the scriptures..." ?
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 01:28 PM
Oct 2012

or are you saying that as a believer, of for example scriptures like the Beatitudes, you can't find a church that upholds them?

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
9. I do NOT believe in them at all.
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 01:36 PM
Oct 2012

We have the ability to make laws without the restrictions of religious ignorance, i.e Dogma.

OldDem2012

(3,526 posts)
11. When you see the huge amount of money some religions have poured into their churches,....
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 01:46 PM
Oct 2012

....and the mansions in which some of the top pastors live, it's no wonder people have become disenchanted. They no longer practice what they preach, and haven't for quite some time. Just think how many more people could be helped if all of that money was redirected.

 

mick063

(2,424 posts)
13. Ya think?
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 02:14 PM
Oct 2012

Mr. Obvious.

Further, Mitt is damaging the Mormon faith more than they could ever know.

Religion has become synonymous with politics. This puts a defined ceiling on
potential converts, which in turn, restricts potential revenue. The religions that sustain will be those that abandon an active role in politics.



xchrom

(108,903 posts)
17. People want to gather around the Beatitudes.
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 05:34 PM
Oct 2012

They know it - the churches know it.

The churches just aren't giving it to them.

Clothe the naked

Feed the hungry

Comfort the widow

Etc.

It's not that it's entirely absent - but everybody knows it could be more.

We used to Socialize more - much more - around that stuff - we did during & after Katrina - so the people walk away now.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
19. The hypocrisy...
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 05:51 PM
Oct 2012

How many right-wing "Christians" who spout hate and intolerance does it take to turn people OFF?

My Dad used to say, "I hate what they've done in the name of Jesus" (He was a lifelong mainstream Christian who felt that the core beliefs had become irrevocably twisted by the rise of the Fundamentalists).

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
20. One version of the response to this study mentioned some of that.
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 06:27 PM
Oct 2012

Basically that there are people who have an affiliation with a mainstream church but don't attend services. They come out strictly for the 'help your neighbor' stuff. But it seems few churches champion the beatitudes these days.

xchrom

(108,903 posts)
22. Christians - the most casual Christian - Knows
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 06:38 PM
Oct 2012

They are fairly narrowly commanded.

It's what made the church pretty successful - and gain even more during the Ecumenical & Vatican II phase.

The church starts getting restrictive & too deeply into peoples private business - takes it's eye off the ball for why we get together on Wednesday nights for supper & fund raising - and Voila - quietly people have less of a reason to go.

In the Modern Age - All are Welcome at Gods Table & real emphasis on the Beatitudes gives people a positive message & something positive to do - with all people.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
18. i wasn't raised with religion
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 05:40 PM
Oct 2012

mom and dad did not attend any church, so we kids didn't either. it was only after i became an young adult, that i was "born again". however, i quickly became disenchanted with the whole shebang, and left a couple of years later. i've no desire to return to any kind of organized religion, although i believe in a higher power. as with many nowadays, my belief system is a hodgepodge of several different religions, "spiritual, not religious". works for me...

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