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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 10:21 AM Oct 2012

Adderall For Healthy Kids: A Cost Shift To Medicaid From School Budgets?

"Doctors in Georgia are prescribing ADHD medications to help low-income children struggling in elementary school, even when they do not have an attention deficit disorder, reports a front-page article in Tuesday’s New York Times.

...{Melissa Carter, executive director of the Barton Child Law and Policy Center at Emory University in Atlanta} points out that prescribing stimulants to kids without attention disorder is not necessarily a mainstream trend, but what is clear is that “parents, teachers, caregivers and even entire systems have a growing appetite to use drugs. There’s an avalanche leading towards meds as the only solution.” That may have something to do with the years of austerity cuts to education in Georgia, which have led to larger class size, shorter school days and furloughs for teachers, says Carter.

But she says that unlike investments in schools, which can give students lifelong skills for coping and adjusting, medications may offer “the immediate satisfaction of behavioral control, but you have side effects, and you’re not giving the child any skills to help them function. Are these kids going to have to be medicated for life?”

Tim Sweeney, director of health policy for the Georgia Budget & Policy Institute, a nonprofit think tank in Atlanta, adds that Dr. Anderson’s dilemma is “an indication of a big picture need for increased investment in secondary services around education, like tutors and counselors.” To the extent that additional costs are “being born by Medicaid for prescriptions that are replacing those services, there is potentially a cost shift.”

http://capsules.kaiserhealthnews.org/index.php/2012/10/adderall-for-healthy-kids-a-cost-shift-to-medicaid/

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Adderall For Healthy Kids: A Cost Shift To Medicaid From School Budgets? (Original Post) ehrnst Oct 2012 OP
Wow. That is full-on insane. knitter4democracy Oct 2012 #1
...what about the ones who really DO need assistance? FirstLight Oct 2012 #2
"don't even vaccinate" PARENTING FAIL!!! Odin2005 Oct 2012 #3
You don't vaccinate? 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #5
I'm sorry.... shall we all just pile on? FirstLight Oct 2012 #8
This is just messed up! Odin2005 Oct 2012 #4
Finally a solution to children acting like children 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #6
adderall affects people with ADHD and those without very differently KSstellarcat Oct 2012 #7
mythology not borne out by any real evidence. HiPointDem Oct 2012 #9

knitter4democracy

(14,350 posts)
1. Wow. That is full-on insane.
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 10:24 AM
Oct 2012

Kids growing up in poverty don't need to be medicated. They need safe schools with good routines and teachers who help teach them the soft skills they need to survive and thrive. Their parents need support, better jobs, and better childcare options. For the cost of all those pills, surely we could have good daycares built, free parenting classes, and put the money back into the schools.

FirstLight

(13,362 posts)
2. ...what about the ones who really DO need assistance?
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 12:44 PM
Oct 2012

My youngest has had these problems all his life and in 2nd grade i caved and medicated him...after a year I stopped because I didn't like what it did to his appetite...he got thru 3rd grade with a lot of help, but now he's floundering in 4th grade. I see the change in his handwriting, in his inability to even read directions, etc. It's not his fault, and it's not because the teacher and I haven't been in constant communication weekly since school started... it's that he is taking 3 hours to complete 1 hour of classwork, it's not fair because he is highly intelligent, but just can't get thru the tasks...

We follow a low-sugar, no artificial color, organic foods (mostly) regimen. I have routines at home for homework, bath and bedtime. I have tried herbal supplements to no avail... last resort, we are seeing the pediatrician this week and seeing if there's something MILDER that we can try again...

I am a total hippie momma, don't even vaccinate...but sometimes our inner chemicals are out of balance, and if it was a thyroid problem or diabetes, we'd medicate without hesitation.

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
5. You don't vaccinate?
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 01:10 PM
Oct 2012

That's not a great idea.

.but sometimes our inner chemicals are out of balance, and if it was a thyroid problem or diabetes, we'd medicate without hesitation.


And sometimes kids get diseases their immune system can't handle without help. Sometimes those diseases kill. Sometimes they permanently debilitate. Sometimes they spread to other kids with depressed immune systems that suffer the same fate.

FirstLight

(13,362 posts)
8. I'm sorry.... shall we all just pile on?
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 04:44 PM
Oct 2012

As a matter of fact, I happen to have very good reasons for not vaccinating, AND IT WAS NOT THE POINT OF MY POST...

boy, it sure is amazing to me how vaccination brings out the hate around here.

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
6. Finally a solution to children acting like children
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 01:13 PM
Oct 2012

took long enough.



/feed kids sugar all day and ban recess because of the liability. Class involves nothing but sitting passively for hours on end listening to someone else talk. Why would that make kids fidgety? It boggles the mind.

KSstellarcat

(50 posts)
7. adderall affects people with ADHD and those without very differently
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 01:20 PM
Oct 2012

It does not cause a speed effect for people who truly have ADHD...quite the opposite. However, if you take it without the need, it will affect you like speed. How in the world can this be justified?

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