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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 09:05 AM Oct 2012

BREAKING: Obamacare Works

BREAKING: Obamacare Works

by JackMcCullough

Many regular readers know that I work for a small nonprofit up here in Vermont, and we made a decision a long time ago that even if we had to make sacrifices in salary to support the important work we do, we would try to make sure all our employees have good health coverage. It costs a lot of money, but our employees get to go to the doctor when they need to and people with serious health issues are able to get the care they need.

What I have in front of me right now is a memo from our executive director explaining the rebate our organization has received from Connecticut General (CIGNA) because they overcharged us for health insurance last year.

One of the benefits of the Affordable Care Act (I don't like to call it Obamacare, although President Obama now says he's okay with it) is a provision sponsored by Al Franken, the newest senator from Minnesota. It's based on the radical notion that health insurance payments should go to pay for--guess what--health care. According to this idea, any health insurance company that doesn't spend enough of the premiums it collects on health care must be spending too much money on marketing, fat executive salaries, and other things that you and I and our employers shouldn't be paying for. Therefore, unless the company pays out at least 85% of its premiums on health care they owe a refund back to the people who paid the premiums.

I got my rebate in my paycheck last week. It was about $300. In addition, we have almost $70,000 that they refunded to our employer that we can save to help reduce what we have to pay for health insurance next year.

Maybe you got one of these checks, but maybe you didn't realize why you got it. My $300, and even my employer's $66,000 isn't going to make anybody rich, but it adds up. Across the country it adds up to a billion dollars paid out to over twelve million Americans.That's all money that didn't go to buy health care for anyone: didn't cure any infections, buy any bandages or tests, and didn't make anyone healthier, but the insurance companies would have been able to just pocket all that cash without the Affordable Care Act.

The average rebate per family in Vermont was $807.00, the highest in the nation. You could say that we made out pretty well this year, or you could say that we got ripped off more than other states, and now we're getting it back. There's a map to see what the families in your state got back in rebates.

So this is a good thing to know. The next time one of your conservative friends starts whining about how we didn't need or want the Affordable Care Act, and how it's not helping anybody, remind them of the rebate that you and the other people in your neighborhood are getting.

And also remind them that if Mitt Romney gets his way the insurance companies are going to get to keep that money.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/11/1143015/-BREAKING-Obamacare-Works

Great stuff!



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BREAKING: Obamacare Works (Original Post) ProSense Oct 2012 OP
It is just the beginning. lalalu Oct 2012 #1
More people need to read this very good article! nt. OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #2
That's good news lunatica Oct 2012 #3
No rebate here. LWolf Oct 2012 #4
I suppose not everyone did, though, ProSense Oct 2012 #5
My mom is on medicare, too. LWolf Oct 2012 #15
yes it does. spanone Oct 2012 #6
Just wait until it's completely rolled out in 2014. n/t porphyrian Oct 2012 #7
Maybe I am talking to all the wrong people Generic Other Oct 2012 #8
That's a BFD too. n/t ProSense Oct 2012 #9
My Daughters employer byoung6 Oct 2012 #10
Nice anecdote. ProSense Oct 2012 #13
Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #11
News Like This Needs to Get Out Haywood Brothers Oct 2012 #12
True, and the desperation ProSense Oct 2012 #14
 

lalalu

(1,663 posts)
1. It is just the beginning.
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 09:09 AM
Oct 2012

I want this to go further but I realize change in America does not come quickly. It is why I believe this election is so important. I do believe the next step will be to gradually open Medicare to all.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
5. I suppose not everyone did, though,
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 09:32 AM
Oct 2012

my Mom got a small rebate and she's on Medicare. Still, this is huge, and the impact is likely to work as a stimulus, especially given the number of actual businesses that will benefit in addition to millions of individuals.



LWolf

(46,179 posts)
15. My mom is on medicare, too.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:54 AM
Oct 2012

She didn't get a rebate, at least not yet. She hasn't said she's expecting a rebate. Instead, she's worrying about covering the costs that medicare doesn't from the surgery she had last week.

I'll have to ask her if she's looked into it.

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
8. Maybe I am talking to all the wrong people
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 10:00 AM
Oct 2012

but the ones I speak with (students who mostly have crap insurance or none) are very grateful for the opportunity to have Obamacare.

byoung6

(47 posts)
10. My Daughters employer
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 11:16 AM
Oct 2012

who is a republican and was totally against Obama got his rebate check from Anthem blue cross/blue shield. He covers 100% of the employees healthcare, which is very rare these days, but he was good enough to come out on the floor and tell some of them about the rebate. He said that maybe this ACA is gonna be okay.

Response to ProSense (Original post)

Haywood Brothers

(19 posts)
12. News Like This Needs to Get Out
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 11:55 AM
Oct 2012

The "Big Lie" strategy of the Republicans on ACA has been way too effective.

The good thing is though that once it finally kicks in, the big lie dies.

To my mind, one of the biggest reasons to work that much harder to get Obama re-elected!

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