Paul Ryan will be declared the winner no matter what.

[Atman]

No "concern" here. Just sayin'. The media only likes Joe because he tends to make gaffes. And he's been around for a gazillion years. He's old news, Ryan is one of those new "Young Guns" and the media will want to help keep the horse race alive. There is still a month's worth of ad space to fill, after all.

[skeewee08]

1. I disagree a lot of people like VP Joe,

it's going to come down to his peformance then the democratic pundits need to do there job & spend the debate to VP Biden favor...

[MrScorpio]

2. You're mixing up Stump Joe with Debate Joe

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Stump Joe is the gaffe prone, affable fellow who's trying to go for the home town appeal.

Debate Joe, on the other hand, is a mother-fukkin Great White Shark and all of his debate opponents are little more than chum.

Joe's going to drink Ryan's milkshake, baby.

You heard it from me.

[GoCubsGo]

9. Stump Joe's gaffes weren't gaffes.

They're his accurate words taken out of context and spun into piles of BS by the whore media. And, the best thing about Debate Joe is that he'll still look like that affable fellow even as he slurps down the last few drops of that milkshake.

[rock]

11. I'm putting in with MrScorpio

I think Biden will wallop Ryan worse than 1st Gore versus Bush (in which the media tried, "Bush did OK" and everybody scoffed). Not only is Biden a great debater, he happens to have the facts on his side.

[JimGinPA]

15. This Post Is A Prime Example...

Of why rec's should be allowed within threads!

[awake]

3. Let 'Fox" call it for Ryan not everybody needs to

MSNBC better not lose the Spin again

[hlthe2b]

4. He's going to come out as though he were on speed...Biden will be more prepared than Obama

for that, I think... but still, it is hard to counter the "youthful exhuberance" that many tend to forgive with an overly aggressive younger opponent. I think Biden's natural jovial nature will help him counter without looking like an (older, more experienced) bully, as can be a risk in these kinds of situations.

[C_U_L8R]

5. They said the same thing about Palin

underestimate Joe at your peril : - ))

[OldDem2012]

6. Whatever. nt.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

7. Gosh, you folks here on DU really know how to demoralize voters with the constant negativity.

[Atman]

12. It's not "constant negativity" and I don't underestimate Joe.

I think he'll knock it out of the park. If you're re-read my post, you'll see I was speaking of what THE MEDIA will do, not Joe. I think Joe will be awesome. I'm just saying that we should be prepared for tomorrow. Unless Paul Ryan bludgeons a Girl Scout to death with a sack of kittens, the pundits are going to want to give it to Ryan, for any number of bs reasons...such as, he did great for his first time sparring with the old master, he was energetic, he is handsome and smoov, blah blah blah. It's just the way media works. They're going to want this to be exciting, a tight race right up until the end. I repeat, there is still a lot of air time to sell.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

13. I understand, but let's try and keep optimistic, please. Let's see what happens... n/t

[Puzzledtraveller]

8. I agree

they will find some way to hilight his performance unless he completely tanks.

[Bluenorthwest]

10. What you and the media like to call Joe's 'gaffes' are in fact the reasons I have come

to love Joe. He 'gaffed' in supporting marriage equality, but he also forced the hand of an incredibly naive and perhaps bigoted President who really thought it was a good idea to enter this election without strong support show for his GLBT base of voters. Can you imagine what this cycle would be like if Mitt and Barack held the same views on equality? What a catastrophe it would have been. Joe's 'gaffe' saved the President's standing with a very important voter base. Some gaffe.

[alcibiades_mystery]

14. I don't think so

I get that you're doing some "lowered expectations bit or something, but I just think you're wrong here.

[Odin2005]

16. Sadly, I agree. Remember when they called W the winner of the debates in '00 and '04?

Gore and Kerry obviously won those debates!

I still can't believe how obsessed the MSM was over Gore's now infamous sigh.

[Atman]

17. Anyone still disagree with my prediction?