REPUKE State Rep: 'some girls, he said, 'they rape so easy.'

[kpete]

Lawmaker Says "Some Girls Rape Easy"

Minnesota state Rep. Roger Rivard (R) "is drawing heat for saying that his father had told him when he was young that 'some girls rape easy' as a way to warn him that a woman could agree to sex but then later claim that it wasn't consensual," the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reports.

Said Rivard: "He also told me one thing, 'If you do (have premarital sex), just remember, consensual sex can turn into rape in an awful hurry.' Because all of a sudden a young lady gets pregnant and the parents are madder than a wet hen and she's not going to say, 'Oh, yeah, I was part of the program.' All that she has to say or the parents have to say is it was rape because she's underage. And he just said, 'Remember, Roger, if you go down that road, some girls,' he said, 'they rape so easy.'

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2012/10/10/lawmaker_says_some_girls_rape_easy.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+PoliticalWire+%28Political+Wire%29

http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/state-legislator-criticized-for-comments-on-rape-hj76f4k-173587961.html

[madaboutharry]

1. I can't keep track of all these assholes!

[hrmjustin]

2. +1

[txwhitedove]

5. +100 Grossssssss

[mother earth]

8. I think it's a prerequisite to join the GOP, be an asshole or have a wide stance...

and whatever you do, never admit to it.

[Indpndnt]

24. If by wide stance you mean he has to have his head up his ass, then, yes, indeed.

That's for the men. There is just no explanation for, or adequate description of, Michele Bachmann. [url=http://www.cosgan.de/smilie.php][img][/img][/url]

[roguevalley]

16. there are a lot of sick men in this country.

[ailsagirl]

27. And most of them are repugnant (R) members of congress

We need a Hercules to clean the Augean Stables!

[arely staircase]

39. so much so

my fantasy dipsh*t team has quite the deep bench these days.

[mick063]

50. They come in waves

And the rural "Mom" just seems to tune it all out.

Perhaps they were raised to feel subordinate.


I suppose that if abstinence is your primary form of birth control, you need to scare the Bee jesus out of your teen boys. If they make the mistake of succumbing to those massive hormonal changes, they are going to be a rapist, because by God, that embryo is coming to full term. A "rapist" and a father at the same time. The guilt trip just might get it done. Throw in a little comment before Sunday Services and those young men will abstain for sure. If by chance they don't, then it is the "sluts" fault.


1950 all over again.

[OldDem2012]

3. I'm curious what female GOPers think about talk like this...

...are they buying into it, or are they going to drop GOP candidates like a hot rock on Election Day?

I guarantee you this is something to watch between now and then.

[KansDem]

4. Paul Ryan featured at Roger Rivard fundraiser

August 9

http://polkcountyrepublicans.com/polk-county-politics/fundraiser-for-roger-rivard-featuring-congressman-paul-ryan/

You remember Ryan? He's the one who said rape is "just another method of conception."

[TDale313]

6. Disgusting. n/t

[Barack_America]

23. There's nothing else you can really say.

Wow. What a hideous human being.

[Jim Lane]

7. Some Republicans REALLY want to see the Top Ten Conservative Idiots reinstated. (n/t)

[VWolf]

38. Whole lotta

Democrats (myself included) also want to see it reinstated!

[sarcasmo]

46. +1

[Odin2005]

9. Just another reason these idiots need to be voted out of the Legislature!

[abelenkpe]

25. + 1000 nt

[madmax]

10. Seriously, my friends.

These friggen people aren't normal. There is something definitely wrong with their mental faculties. I have never heard such tripe as I have these last few months from various idiots on the right. Todd Akins (R), (Dr.???) Paul Broun R - GA, Michelle Bachmann and this one who I've never heard of before, Paul Rivard - where the hell do they get these people?

To be fair, do we Dem's have any totally batshit crazy representatives? I'm not a political wonk so maybe we have some in our party.

[madokie]

22. I don't know of any of our dem congress critters who are

I'm a down and dirty, cut to the bone, yellow dog democrat, yes I am.

[craigmatic]

11. I don't know why repubs are so obsessed with rape.

But if you look at the whole statement it has a ring of truth to it because false rape allegations do happen. But the part where he says "girls rape easy" sounds stupid as if it's easy or guys should go out and commit the act of rape. I bet he regrets saying this stupid shit now.

[riderinthestorm]

20. False rape allegations are very rare. Rape victims who do report are also rare, most never report

And sex with underage minors is always rape. Period.

The Rethug mentality on this is despicable.

[caseymoz]

40. Wait. Rape if it's sex between two minors?

Two fourteen-year olds? I take it you can't mean that.

The Repub in question was a minor when his father told him this. So, old Dad was trying to stop his son from having teen sex-- using the most ill-informed, misogynistic misinformation possible. You won't believe some of the things my Dad told me.

It's not so atypical of the ignorance and mis-information strategy abstinence-based sex education uses to scare teens away from sex. Some of those falsehoods, unfortunately, are remembered as wisdom and stick around with tragic results.

[riderinthestorm]

48. Absolutely it can be rape between minors. Of course I mean that.

You don't think a 13 yr old can't be forced by a 15 yr old? Of course they can (or whatever configuration of minor ages you want to inject into the equation).

[caseymoz]

49. It can be rape . . .

. . . rape can take place between any age, but you said for minors it (sex) was always rape. Therefore, I thought you meant it was always statutory rape. If an adult is involved, yes, we have no disagreement.

But between say, a fifteen and a thirteen year old? Yes, non-statutory rape can and does take, but if both parties were game, are you saying that's statutory rape for the oldest?

[LadyHawkAZ]

21. It has about a 2% ring of truth

because that's about the rate of false/unfounded reporting. Not good odds for ol' dad's theory.

Unfortunately I'm sure he only regrets the media picking it up.

[Blue_Tires]

43. Fetishism, i'd guess

[Angry Dragon]

12. Is he from Wisconsin or Minnesota??

Wisconsin newspaper

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

13. This guy is no gentleman - he's not even civilized

I think I can understand the point he's trying to make although I don't agree with it. Women who lie about being raped when they haven't been may exist (I've known one, but she was suffering from schizophrenia ) but women who hide the rape and lie about not being raped when they have been because of societal pressures far outnumber them. Rape carries with it a stigma in our society that he apparently doesn't appreciate. He makes it sound like women carry on capriciously with claiming they've been raped as though it's nothing. Women are far more likely to pretend a rape didn't happen instead of pretending one did.

And the way he expresses himself about it is disgusting and uncivilized. Where do they find these jerks?

[tblue37]

18. I think what has happened is that since the RW Republicans have

grabbed so much power--not just elective power, but also, and perhaps more important, the power of money and of media control, our public discourse has been badly coarsened. Since they are the ones who get to shape the debate, and since they tend toward such ideas and such ugly ways of expressing them, people end up hearing such things more and more often.

When something is said frequently, casually, and in a wide range of venues, it becomes defanged, domesticated. IOW, it no longer seems shocking, but rather familiar and even comfortable--at least to those who were never all that appalled by it in the first place and who only refrained from saying such thigns because they knew other people would look down on them for saying them.

The fact that our public attitudes had moved toward tolerance and civility in political and professional discourse for a while meant that the temporarily marginalized troglodytes like this guy did not feel they could openly express their ugliest opinions and attitudes. They never abandoned them, mind you, and they never stopped expressing them among like-minded people; but they knew that if they said them openly in company that did not consist entirely of their own kind, they would be shamed and shunned.

Now, though, they constantly hear, right out in public, many things that used to be considered unacceptable in polite company. And since they only listen to FOX, only frequent RW message boards and websites, and only talk to people who think the same way they do, they have lost their awareness that polite people simply do not say such things out in the open where everyone can hear them.

They are honestly taken aback when their comments are greeted with outrage.

[muntrv]

14. Let's just call the republickers pro-rapist!

[Sugarcoated]

15. And pro-slavery

[yardwork]

17. There are no words.

Don't miss the part about the girls being underage.

[Bake]

19. I"ve got news for you, Mr. Rivard

If the girl is underage, it IS rape.

Duh.

Bake

[lonestarnot]

28. No shit..

[Canuckistanian]

26. I'm astounded what these cretins say in public

I can't even begin to think what they say when no one's watching

[Initech]

29. Keep talking assholes. Sooner or later you'll all get voted out of office.

[mountain grammy]

30. It's wise to educate our children about the dangers of promiscuous sex

but describing it this way is ignorant and obscene.

[Brickbat]

31. Wisconsin, not Minnesota. Both links have it right; please correct the OP.

[chollybocker]

32. "Girls"

"A young lady"

Notice how Republicans never say the word "woman" in any rape or abortion debate? I've been casually monitoring this since I noticed it with Aiken and his minions. Male fundies rarely use the word "woman," reciting instead, "the mother," "the victim," etc.

"Girls" is at least closer to the gross reality.

[Wanderlustig]

33. O.O

ick...

[redqueen]

34. Hmmmmm, that logic sure sounds familiar...

[Marie Marie]

35. Pig!

[benld74]

36. Classy! nt

[sakabatou]

37. There are special places in hell for people like him

[arcane1]

41. If I had $1 for every fake rape trial caused by the "girl's" fear of parental retribution...

I wouldn't have $1

[charmay]

42. The jerk is my representative. Totally supported Wanker.

Voted to end collective bargaining in WI. I'm so proud (not). We had a decent democratic rep. for years who retired in 2010. Rivard was swept in on the 2010 repuke wave in WI. I just fired off another letter that will not be answered. All I ever get is a form letter thanking me for my correspondence. Never an answer.

[BainsBane]

44. How about teaching your son to treat women with respect?

What complete pigs.

[mythology]

45. I wonder

does it hurt to be this stupid? I think it has to, but that may just be my need to think that the world is fair on some general overarching level.

[City Lights]

47. Ick!

is wrong with Republicans?

I'm so of the GOP brand of humans.

[Up2Late]

51. Really?

Really.

[patrice]

52. What a morally repugnant way to have that "coming of age" talk with your son!!!

TTE, "Right is whatever you can get away with and if something goes wrong just accuse her of being a slut."

Republicans breed rapists.