What do think Biden will do tomorrow with Eddie Munster? What's his team telling him?

[RBInMaine]

I think he will be measured but VERY ASSERTIVE. He needs to HIT EDDIE MUNSTER good and hard. And even moreso, HIT FLIP ROBME ! Call out the LIES and FLIPFLOPS in a MAJOR LEAGUE WAY.

[rhett o rick]

1. He should be cautious. Be informed, cheerful and jab. The opposition needs a mistake.

So he should be his cool self. Not too assertive. This is national anti-bullying month. Ryan is so pathetic, that an aggressive attack may be view as bullying. Be cool, measured, firm, and informed. Ryan will destroy himself.

[darkangel218]

5. I disagree. I think ge should be VERY assertive!

At this point there is no such thing as being too assertive. He should wipe the floors with Eddie munster. No mercy!!

[rhett o rick]

11. Why take the risk. He is in the lead. Ryan will be desperate and it will show. Too much aggression

indicates fear. Too much aggression by Rmoney messed him up good. Obama/Biden will win the election unless they mess up big time. Play it cool and in control.

[GaYellowDawg]

15. Wrong.

Too much aggression by Romney erased the convention bounce. I think if we could get that kind of bounce, we'd take that kind of "messing up good."

I don't understand why so many people on this board refuse to realize that many Americans do not think like them. To them, what you call aggression is assertiveness. What you call "cool and in control" is seen as passiveness.

Biden needs to stomp a mudhole in that greasy little fucker and just annihilate him.

[rhett o rick]

35. Good grief. I am glad you are so "open" to discussion. Just curious, do you

consider yourself liberal?

[GaYellowDawg]

44. Yes, I do.

I keep an open mind, including the possibility that my candidate could possibly have fucked up.

Hey, you expressed an opinion, I expressed a different one.

[RBInMaine]

9. No, Ryan is SMART and SLIMEY like Mitt. Joe needs to PUNCH. Not explode but PUNCH HARD.

[rhett o rick]

13. I would love him to punch, but why take the risk. This is his to lose. Be confident and cool and

Ryan will destroy himself. Over play it and it could be bad.

[GaYellowDawg]

16. Because I've seen prevent defense lose a LOT of games.

Take the risk. Pound the crap out of Ryan, pound the crap out of Romney in the last debate, and you put this one away. Play it "cool" and passive, and you give them a ton of momentum heading into the election. What you're proposing is the worst possible strategy.

[rhett o rick]

27. Did Rmoney get any "momentum" from the first debate? nm

[GaYellowDawg]

45. Got a good bounce

And if we play softball with them for 2 more debates, the bounce will turn into huge momentum. This is not the time for prevent defense.

[darkangel218]

17. That was probably the mentality the President used ib the first debate

And we all saw it didn't work. Both Obama and Biden need to be super assertive. People look for confidence, not quiet/calm attitudes.

[rhett o rick]

28. But it did work. The polls indicate it worked. Dont listen to the corporate media. Trust the

President, he knows best.

[darkangel218]

31. Youre completely wrong and in denial. nt.

[CakeGrrl]

41. They're NOT completely wrong.

Romney solidified his base. Big deal.

He did NOT gain with Independents.

POTUS gained favorability.

People need to stop swallowing MSM spin. What people who are glued to MSNBC and CNN will never hear are the things Team Obama is doing at the grassroots level in the swing states.

I, for one, will never consider an outright liar the winner of anything. And neither will any other thinking people.

The ignoramuses who have the power to cast a ballot? That's the challenge.

[darkangel218]

42. If you follow the discussion, another poster kept insisting that Biden shouldnt be too assertive

towards Ryan in the VP debate.

He/she is the one insinuating its the media spin. Truth is, media has very little influence on my opinion, and I think both Biden and Obama need to be strong in their message.

[demwing]

38. Be nice?

Patrick Swayze in Roadhouse agrees:

Or does he?

&NR=1

[RBInMaine]

43. The risk is in AGAIN appearing like a WIMP. It is a DEBATE not a teatime chat.

[Curtland1015]

2. Strand of garlic, crucifix...

...maybe holy water?

[AtomicKitten]

3. I hope he drop-kicks that clown hard.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

4. I hope he figuratively drives a wooden stake in the asshole's heart - if he can locate it

[ChisolmTrailDem]

6. Perhaps he should

address Ryan as "Eddie Munster" at least once during the debate. But I know he would never be so gauche.

[gkhouston]

7. The one thing I really, really want him to do is nail Ryan on the "revenue-neutral" BS.

Remember the clip where someone is asking Ryan how he'll pay for those tax cuts and he says, "it's revenue-neutral" four or five times (like someone using a cross to ward off a vampire) and then says the math is too time-consuming? I want Biden to call him on that. Revenue-neutral means we have to give up something for those tax cuts: precisely what is it? If Ryan doesn't have a detailed answer that fact-checkers agree is mathematically plausible, then he doesn't know what he's talking about. We can't afford any more fairy tale economics from the conservatives. If he does have a detailed answer, where the math tallies, that will show us his priorities, and that's something the electorate has a right to know before Election Day.

Either way, it's time for Romney and Ryan to put up or shut up on the $5 trillion.

[rock]

22. "revenue-neutral" means he's got two numbers that balance each other

What are they? The answer to this question neither takes a long time to state nor is difficult to understand. It's just a number.

[Democratopia]

8. The theme should be:

Here are two men who cannot be trusted (Romney and Ryan). They need to tell the truth about their tax plan. How will it be paid for if the costs aren't passed onto the middle classes, and the poor and the sick who rely on government safety nets?

[spanone]

10. he should beat the living fuck out of him with facts and reason

[MerryBlooms]

12. I'm banking on classic Biden--

He will eviscerate Lyin' Ryan with a handshake and facts.

Can't wait!

[rock]

23. And maybe have

some fava beans and a nice chianti.

[Terra Alta]

14. Biden needs to wipe the floor with Ryan.

Screw being "nice", being nice didn't work out too well for Obama. Biden needs to be very aggressive, make Ryan look like the fool he is.

[rhett o rick]

29. I am disappointed that you judge Pres Obama's performance by what's in the

corp-media and not the polls. He did fine. Why take the risk. He's got this unless he messes up. Let the opponents make the mistakes. They will.

[VOX]

18. Joe can't let that lying S.O.B. get all warm and fuzzy like rMoney did...

If he does, he'll be lying faster than a dog can trot (as rMoney was), because these assclowns really want to take down Social Security, Medicare, education, etc., and that 47% business is REALLY what these jokers believe. They are saying ANYTHING to sneak past safely, get into office, then pull all kinds of weird shit.

Shut 'em down, Joe.

[Spike89]

19. He needs to stomp on Romney, but be measured with Ryan

People just don't vote for VP. Joe needs to focus especially on the "soft" spots in Romney's ideology--the areas where Ryan can't/won't vigorously defend his running mate's positions. Abortion is one, the whole math issue with the budget, tie it into the vagueness and mystery around Romney's tax returns and off-shoring history.

Being very aggressive toward Romney will put Ryan on the defensive, but it won't come off as Joe attacking the hapless dude Romney saddled with the VP nomination. Alternately, hitting at Ryan directly does little good--both Ryan and Romney can (and have) shrugged off Ryan's ideology already. It can also make Joe look like a bully beating up on a younger guy.

I think a couple mocking comments would be great...something along the lines of "Senator Ryan, are you sure that is your ticket's position? We've been in this auditorium for 30 minutes, do you need to call Mitt to see if tonight's positions have changed again? Maybe he could ask how the Tea Party folks like the new "moderate" Mitt, or do they not believe those are his real positions either?

[RBInMaine]

24. He is "Congressman Ryan." He is the House of Reps, not the Senate.

[Spike89]

46. oops, right, thanks. nt

[emulatorloo]

37. Great post n/t

[yoyossarian]

20. Hopefully! And I love that, Eddie Munster! I think the same thing every time I look at him!

Too bad, though... the Munsters were a lot cooler than he'll ever be.

[keroro gunsou]

21. two words:

break him.

[KurtNYC]

25. Here is preview review

Biden makes other candidates laugh while he is putting them down. Makes his point with just enough punch. He talks loudly but is not yelling. He addresses his answer to the moderator the way a lawyer addresses a jury.

Biden is the guy who said among other famous lines, to Giuliani a sentence is "a verb, a noun and 9/11" He will deliver a memorable quip for Ryan tomorrow.

[2on2u]

26. He should come out dressed as..... wait for it.....

[Honeycombe8]

30. He'll have a lot of facts in his head, and will try to call out the lies. nt

[madokie]

32. I'll not even suggest how Joe should handle the little lying asshole

Joe knows what Joes needs to do and if any one can do it Joe can. Biden has been in congress a long time before his tenure as VP.

[napkinz]

33. tinkle-down economics

[Historic NY]

34. You can bet he will clear up the 716 medicare number.....

by wiping the floor with Ryan on that point.

[TardisBlue]

39. I would love to see VP Biden teach him to 'respect his betters'

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[tarheelsunc]

40. Joe Biden's going to school this kid and begin his 2016 presidential campaign

The media can try to lower Ryan's expectations all they want, but it won't matter. Biden is not afraid to call Robme/Lyin' out and the people who are watching will finally understand a lot of the lies that have been spewed. Paul Ryan is a hard-right conservative and if he tries to flip-flop like Mittstake, Biden will know it and identify it. Ryan will look dumber than Palin after the debate.