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Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 08:41 AM Oct 2012

Watch the Only Known Recording of NYPD’s Stop-and-Frisk in Action

http://colorlines.com/archives/2012/10/watch_the_only_known_recording_of_nypds_stop-and-frisk_program_in_action.html

The NYPD conducts more than 1,800 stop-and-frisks each day. The program has come under widespread condemnation by critics who say that it unfairly targets men of color. Now there’s proof. Here’s more from Ross Tuttle at The Nation:

On June 3, 2011, three plainclothes New York City Police officers stopped a Harlem teenager named Alvin and two of the officers questioned and frisked him while the third remained in their unmarked car. Alvin secretly captured the interaction on his cell phone, and the resulting audio is one of the only known recordings of stop-and-frisk in action.

In the course of the two-minute recording, the officers give no legally valid reason for the stop, use racially charged language and threaten Alvin with violence. Early in the stop, one of the officers asks, “You want me to smack you?” When Alvin asks why he is being threatened with arrest, the other officer responds, “For being a fucking mutt.” Later in the stop, while holding Alvin’s arm behind his back, the first officer says, “Dude, I’m gonna break your fuckin’ arm, then I’m gonna punch you in the fuckin’ face.”
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Watch the Only Known Recording of NYPD’s Stop-and-Frisk in Action (Original Post) Bonobo Oct 2012 OP
Ugh fifthoffive Oct 2012 #1
Protect and serve! Yeah right! BlueToTheBone Oct 2012 #2
Hey! These guys look suspicious! KansDem Oct 2012 #3
If i was a cop in DC every SC justice who voted it was ok........... kooljerk666 Oct 2012 #6
It is one of the things that perpetually distresses me. Savannahmann Oct 2012 #4
Cops should be required to have small cameras fastened to their uniforms Cali_Democrat Oct 2012 #13
The camera doesn't work. Savannahmann Oct 2012 #14
Stop & Frisk = more minoritys shipped upstate for census counts............ kooljerk666 Oct 2012 #5
Stop-and-provoke. leveymg Oct 2012 #7
This is so worth the time. peace13 Oct 2012 #8
- - - video here - - - progressoid Oct 2012 #9
NYPD's turned into a bunch of fucking nazis. n/t backscatter712 Oct 2012 #10
turned?! frylock Oct 2012 #12
fuck tha police frylock Oct 2012 #11
From NWA. Savannahmann Oct 2012 #15
a classic frylock Oct 2012 #18
Someone explain to me again how law enforcement is more of a benefit than a threat to public safety? Zalatix Oct 2012 #16
Bloomberg DainBramaged Oct 2012 #17

fifthoffive

(382 posts)
1. Ugh
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 09:00 AM
Oct 2012

That video is shocking and depressing. How clueless are Bloomberg and Kelly to defend and promote this activity by the NYPD?

BlueToTheBone

(3,747 posts)
2. Protect and serve! Yeah right!
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 09:02 AM
Oct 2012

What a terrible way to have to live...just waiting to be treated like that.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
3. Hey! These guys look suspicious!
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 09:12 AM
Oct 2012


Start doing stop-and-frisks on Wall Street bankers and brokers and this shit will end yesterday!
 

kooljerk666

(776 posts)
6. If i was a cop in DC every SC justice who voted it was ok...........
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 09:20 AM
Oct 2012

............would get anal cavity searches every time they left there house or office.

 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
4. It is one of the things that perpetually distresses me.
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 09:12 AM
Oct 2012

The behavior of the Police, and the blind support that the community gives to them as a group. Every now and then a video surfaces of the cops behaving like the bully boys they are, and the community gets outraged, at that individual. Then they are totally surprised two months later when another individual behaves in a similar manner.

A neocon friend (co-worker) had one suggestion that I actually liked. He said that the Police should have to take a lie detector test every six months. The CIA has to take one to maintain their Top Secret clearance, so why shouldn't the Police have to take one to maintain their authority over us? After all in court, the jury inevitably believes that the police are telling the truth, so why not prove it?

Of course we couldn't jail the officer if he failed the test, but we could make sure he is not on the street abusing his position and authority.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
13. Cops should be required to have small cameras fastened to their uniforms
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 02:53 PM
Oct 2012

That way they can capture exactly what the cop is doing, who they are confronting and for what reason. If the cops try to turn them off, they should be fired.

 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
14. The camera doesn't work.
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 05:45 PM
Oct 2012

Police have cameras installed on their cars. Yet, they still plant evidence, verbally and physically abuse citizens. The camera doesn't do the trick. It is a matter of social acceptance IMO. No one wants to be the ONE person who challenges the honor of the Police, so everyone accepts that they are wonderful selfless defenders of society. As I mentioned before, most people go into court with the assumption that the suspect must have done something, or else they wouldn't be here. Even cases where it is obvious that the suspect did not do this crime, they will be found guilty because the jury is convinced that the police KNOW they did something else, but can't prove it. That has happened many more times than most of us think.

There are a plethora of cameras that would fit over the ear. Most are very inexpensive, and have internal storage for hours of recording. Yet no department issues them to their officers. The reason is because they would rather have the narrative of what the officer did, than the recording. Remember the Rodney King incident? The cops all wrote one thing, and the video showed another entirely. Yet no one demanded that the LAPD wear cameras, even today. No one will, because while there are a few, very few bad cops, the rest are angels who are putting it on the line to defend us. PFUI.

I don't trust cops. I don't believe them when they say they saw something, and I don't believe them when they say the found, rather than planted, evidence. If we had that attitude towards law enforcement, they would wear cameras, to prove they actually found the drugs, instead of planted it.

 

kooljerk666

(776 posts)
5. Stop & Frisk = more minoritys shipped upstate for census counts............
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 09:19 AM
Oct 2012

.....which leads to more Representation for white rural areas & under representation of urban areas.

This is why, even though whites are more likely to have guns or drugs, they search non whites most of the time.

Here is PA, there are so many prisoners at Gratersford state prison, that it has its own state House Rep. They guy has like 2 free familys in his district & since incarcerated folks can not vote, constituent services is not a lot of work.

Best site I have found about effed up prisons & laws follows.

http://www.prisonpolicy.org/

Take a good look at the Prison Based Gerrymandering page http://www.prisonersofthecensus.org/


Note: on the Gerrymander page NY has apparently stopped some of its behavour, I am not sure if this occured before 2010 gerrymander occured....??!? here in PA GerryMander is still alive and well.

 

Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
16. Someone explain to me again how law enforcement is more of a benefit than a threat to public safety?
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 05:52 PM
Oct 2012
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