RE Jerry Sandusky will be in the general population:

[Are_grits_groceries]

According to ABC WNN, Pennsylvania has no special accommodations for sex offenders. He will be released in about 30 days into the general population of the chosen prison.

Whoa!

[Drunken Irishman]

1. So, in about 32 days, we'll hear reports of Sandusky being murdered?

[left on green only]

2. Either that, or.......

a protracted case of.....well, you know.

[Kindly Refrain]

3. Are there any statistics that pedophiles are murdered/harrassed in prison?

Or is this just "common wisdom" gleaned from America's favorite academic source... the television.

[Le Taz Hot]

6. Statistics would be almost impossible to come by

in that the prison industrial complex usually WAY underreports rapes and murders within the prison population. I worked with parolees for several years and they ALL said that rapists, child molestors and other sex offenders were specifically targeted. I was even given several examples of how it's done. There's a reason there are PC (protective custody) sections in most prisons -- it's exactly for that reason -- not to protect the prison population from the pervs but to protect the pervs from the rest of the prison population.

[Kindly Refrain]

14. So your information about the subject has been collected from hearsay

The hearsay of criminals. The fact is, Sandusky would likely only be murdered because his case is so high profile.

[Are_grits_groceries]

17. No.

If you google, you will find a lot of info about pedophiles in prison. Some is collected from people working in prisons, but that doesn't make it any less valid. I don't intend to venture into that realm again because i've had enough of it when I was reading before.

Pedophiles are on the bottom of the prison ladder. You would be better off being a murderer. Hurting kids or in a lot of cases the elderly marks you as soon as you enter. Even if you aren't killed, your life will be a living hell.

Some prisons do have special units to protect them from jailhouse justice. Sandusky has two bright lights on his back. He's a pedophile and he has a high profile.

I have no idea why you seem intent on this path of questioning everything said about pedophiles in prison. I'll grant you that every individual story you hear may not be true. There is a great deal of evidence that messing with kids will catch up with you in prison if you are in the general population.

So believe what you will. Quit nattering about something you can easily research as long as your heart desires.

[Kindly Refrain]

20. What's your problem?

Sorry I don't have the same bloodlust that you have. The "pedophile get's his in prison" meme, just seems like an urban legend type story.

[MADem]

28. Where did you get "bloodlust" from that poster's comments?

I think you need to re-read and retract.

[EOTE]

44. So one must have a bloodlust to believe that pedophiles have a really fucking hard time in prison?

Apparently, bloodlust and having an ounce of common sense are the same thing to you. I'd recommend thinking a bit more before making your next post.

[Kindly Refrain]

45. I see nothing factual

in the OP or in your post. Perhaps you should take your own advice.

[EOTE]

59. Once again, try thinking just a smidgeon.

You suggested that if one believes that pedophiles are subjected to violence and other awful things in prison, that one has a bloodlust. Completely disregarding that it's just common fucking sense that pedophiles have it rough in prison, what you've said is utterly without logic (and pretty fucking stupid to boot). Are you truly unable to see that?

What you've said makes just as much sense as saying that those who believe old people have a tough time with technology also have a bloodlust.

Really, stopping to think before making a post isn't terribly difficult.

[Kindly Refrain]

64. The assertions in your post are rather idiotic.

Common sense? First of all "common sense" isn't based on fact. For many it is "common sense" that there is an invisible sky wizard that lives in the clouds who dictates the comings and goings of human kind. To suggest that your assertion is "common sense" would suggest that you have first hand knowledge of prison conditions. Do you? Like I said, try getting your common sense from somewhere other than the television.

[EOTE]

66. What you've suggested is beyond idiotic.

Once again, let's completely forget as to whether or not pedophiles have a hard time in prison. Let's pretend that pedophiles receive cake and candy in prison. Even if one were to assume that, it's well beyond idiotic to think that those who believe pedophiles have a rough time in prison have a bloodlust. Where is your "common sense" that leads you to believe that? Most people who believe that pedophiles have a very hard time in prison are liberals. Where do you get your assertion that those who believe that way have a bloodlust? Everyone who has replied to your idiotic post knows how stupid your assertion is. You're apparently just the last one to see it.

[HangOnKids]

70. Thank You EOTE

REMEMBER alert and or MIRT is your friend. I've seen similar arguments against this poster before, maybe now is the time to clean the house. Just sayin'.

[Kindly Refrain]

81. Stalking is disruptive behavior

Why don't you cut it out?

[HangOnKids]

87. Get Lost

[Kindly Refrain]

117. You've got a real problem

You act like this in real life?

[EOTE]

118. Do you accuse those who are concerned about others as having a "bloodlust" in real life?

Because if you do, that might explain why people tend to have such a problem with you.

[HangOnKids]

120. Thanks Again EOTE

That kind of nails the point.

[EOTE]

121. Any time :) nt

[HangOnKids]

119. You Are Such A Peach!

[robinlynne]

127. what is your problem? you just like to fight? about nothing?

[HangOnKids]

86. Be Careful Now Refrain Might Accuse You Of Stalking!

Booga Wooga!

[Jamastiene]

56. It is not about bloodlust.

It is just the facts...and it does happen.

[nadinbrzezinski]

61. Actually it is not

and as a former EMS worker, we even picked a few and took them to the ER with very real injuries.

[aquart]

77. "Seems"?

So this is just your fantasy world we're dealing with here?

[DonViejo]

80. I just did what you seem unable to accomplish

a Google search. Here's the link to the results, have fun getting your answers

https://www.google.com.pr/#hl=en&safe=off&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=treatment+of+pedophiles+in+prison&oq=treatment+of+pedophiles+in+prison&gs_l=hp.12...28732.47231.1.49819.33.26.0.7.7.1.1751.8410.2j14j3j2j2j7-2j1.26.0.les%3B..0.0...1c.1.oLUYtSZhdq0&psj=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=c3de808e434dbb64&bpcl=35243188&biw=1176&bih=693

[Honeycombe8]

93. No, he's right. It's common knowledge. You ever watch "Lockup" or other documentaries

about prison? Wardens will put child molesters and child murderers separate from the general population frequently because of the harsh treatment other prisoners dole out to them.

The way I've heard it explained in those documentaries is that there is a hierarchy in prison, just like in the free world, only it's much more pronounced since prison is a smaller condensed reflection of society, and it's of course based on criminality. The top tier are the murderers of other adults. They're considered top dogs and are feared and respected. At the bottom of the rung are criminals who have hurt children. The other prisoners hate them and not worthy to be in their company. Also at the bottom are bizarre, horrific murderers, like Jeffrey Dahmer. It wasn't long before Dahmer was murdered in prison.

I'm speaking about male prisons. I'm not sure that female prisons have the same strong heirarchy. They might, but most documentaries focus on the male prisons, where there are far more violent criminals than in female prisons.

It depends on the prison, too, I'm sure. How many other violent offenders are there. But if Sandusky is kept in the general population, there's no doubt in my mind he'll be made to suffer by the other prisoners. Still, there are ways to keep tabs on prisoners, even if they're in the general population. For a while.

[Ghost in the Machine]

112. It's NOT an "urban legend type story"... trust me

There's a code, even among murderers, rapists & thieves, that children are off limits. Period. No questions asked.

I know this as fact, from being a former member of the AB, and a notorious 1%er biker gang.

When my own daughter was sexually assaulted last year, I called the lead detective (who I am on a first name basis with) in the next county over, where it happened, and told I was "going hunting and he better hope he finds the maggot before I do." Knowing my background from my former life, he said "Ghost, please just give me a little time to do my job". I said "ok..but you have very little time". Realizing how serious I was, he said "well, how about this then.. if I even see you in this county in the next 48 hours, I'll lock you up... for your own safety, because I like you and don't want to see you do something stupid and get yourself in trouble, though I completely understand, and respect, how you're feeling right now. I would be the same way if it was *MY* daughter".

Needless to say, I took his words to heart, took my frustrations out on an old building on my property that needed to be torn down anyways and got myself calmed down. I got a phone call about 8 pm, telling me that the perp was in jail and it was ok for me to be seen in that county now.

The little piece of shit has already been to trial, been convicted of the sexual assault... along with a few other charges he had pending (he was out on BOND when he assaulted my daughter. His family has money, and he thinks he can get away with whatever he wants). He is still in the county lock-up for now but, thanks to a few phone calls where his name and picture was circulated, he has a nice "welcoming committee" waiting for him in any prison he steps foot into in the Southeast US. Every minute of his pitiful existence is going to be a living nightmare, hopefully 10 times worse than the nightmares my daughter still has.

If that makes me a bad person, fuck it... I don't care. NOBODY puts their hands on *my* kids, or any other family member, without there being a price to pay.

Ghost

[cliffordu]

114. Watch MSNBC on the weekends.

[Jamastiene]

55. Great post. n/t

[arely staircase]

96. i wonder though

i have heard all of that too, from reading as well as talking to former prisoners and guards.but i really wonder how much statistical validity accompanies such anecdotal stories. there are plenty of child rapists in prison, alive and (relatively) well. and many serve their sentences, get out and offend again. so it isn't like it is a death sentence.

[DonRedwood]

35. There are several books on the subject. Terror in the Prisons came out in the 70s

And it was pretty damned terrifying.

Everytime I see a photo of some young handsome smaller man being sent to prison I think of that book and my blood runs cold for them.

The book is mostly about rape but also covers how child molesters are treated in prison. Pretty much universally hated. I mean, how would you like it if you had to share a room for the next 30 years with a guy who raped little boys? Would you be super nice or would you treat them like the piece of crap they are?

[Kindly Refrain]

36. The prison environment itself is extremely violent.

If someone were large and extremely violent I'd imagine that they would fare pretty well regardless of their crime.

[DonRedwood]

38. Of course-but I'd guess the average molester is average sized

or, more true-half of them are smaller than average and half are larger with the median right there in the middle.

[tblue37]

100. I suspect that many prisoners were themselves molested as children and that is why

they have such hatred of child molesters.

[cherokeeprogressive]

50. "The fact is"

From whence did you glean that "fact"?

[Kindly Refrain]

65. Correction officials have a special term

They are called High Profile Inmates.

[cherokeeprogressive]

109. Is that a fact...

Is it a real fact, or one you made up by hearsay?

[MicaelS]

32. I had a good friend that did 8 years in TDC..

"Texas Department of Corrections" for arson.

I asked him about the whole "pedophiles in prison" issue. He basically said that as long as you leave others alone, they will leave you alone.

He said that if you start shit with others, narc to the Correctional Officers, are a member of the Aryan Brotherhood, Mexican Mafia or some other prison gang, then you're going to have problems with other inmates. Being a rapist or pedophile did not factor into things.

[alcibiades_mystery]

88. This thread abounds with myths about prison

In three years time, Jerry Sandusky will be alive and well, and probably uninjured. Despite the crazy theories here, the vast majority of crime in prisons is theft of property. Yes, there are some rapes, but it is far more rare in contemporary prison than popular imagination would lead you to believe. In the early 1970's, sure, it was another thing, but today's prisons are closer to hospitals - everyone is medicated and the environment, though rife with anger and frustration, is usually secure. The whole "pedophiles are raped and killed in prison" thing is exactly what it appears to be: desires for imaginary revenges. The law and ethics (and common, modern values and decency) won't allow the "punishment" many people actively desire, so it gets displaced on to a fantasy: they'll get theirs one way or the other. It's actually far more rare than this popular fantasy supposes.

[Are_grits_groceries]

116. 'Closer to hospitals'

I think you need to tour some prisons. Angola would be a good first start. Whie there may be some prisons that control the population with drugs, the idea that you can sucessfully medicate a great number of inmates is ludicrous. The worst of the worst might be possible, but even that is problematic.

Whose law and ethics along with common, modern values and decency are you talking about? The inmates, in general, aren't models of citizenship. The wardens and others vary. In addition, as prisons are outsourced to private companies, ontrol over what happens grows even looser.

'Rife with anger and frustration' is the understatement of the year. They are rife with fear, hate, bigotry, and a whole lot of other negative emotions.

[littlewolf]

106. I have worked in DOC for 10 years ...

PC (protective custody) is indeed to protect inmates from other inmates
be they perverts ... or gang affiliation ... or you did me or a member of my
family or my friend wrong at another prison and I am going to make you pay...
or gambling debts.... or any other reason ...
people are usually kept there for a month or so and then shipped to another
prison ... Sandusky because he is so recognizable can not just be shipped
off to another prison even in another state ... hence he will likely spend
most of his time in SHU (segregated housing unit.) where PC's are kept
along with other discipline problems .... 23 hours in a cell .. 1 hour out to exercise and shower ....

[LuvNewcastle]

4. I guess he'll have as much difficulty getting to sleep as

the boys who stayed in his basement. Who knows, maybe nobody will him crying out for help, either.

[Le Taz Hot]

5. Oh, man!

He's toast. Ya gotta loves some karma.

[global1]

12. Are You Saying He Might Be A Victim Of Legitimate Rape?....nt

[Le Taz Hot]

49. Don't be absurd.

[Iggy]

7. Hopefully This is True

Last edited Wed Oct 10, 2012, 06:38 AM - Edit history (1)

Regardless, fairly easy to predict he will be dead within six months.

Prisoners have their own justice system... child rapists/killers are not well liked.

[Angry Dragon]

9. I understand your position however DU frowns on prison rape

you might want to do some editing ........... just a thought

[Iggy]

10. Understood, Thanks for the heads up

Post revised

[Angry Dragon]

11. Welcome

[Honeycombe8]

94. As opposed to non-prison rape? nt

[Angry Dragon]

99. I was just trying to be nice and advise a poster they might want to change their post

before it was hidden
I addressed the post as it was writen

if you have a problem with that then you can keep your snark to yourself

[MoonRiver]

16. True, especially since a lot of prisoners have themselves been abused.

But I could care less what happens to that freak, as long as he is "inside."

[KansDem]

8. Maybe the statue could be placed in his cell to keep him company?

[Odin2005]

13. In other words, he's a dead man walking.

[porphyrian]

15. It sucks to be a child rapist. n/t

[Horse with no Name]

18. In the interest of justice and not just vigilantism

he should be segregated.

[Horse with no Name]

22. No, it isn't. nt

[nadinbrzezinski]

23. no, it isn't

[Marrah_G]

27. That isn't justice, that is vengeance

An eye for an eye is not part of our judicial system

[rdking647]

29. in some cases its needed for the deterent effect.

[nadinbrzezinski]

47. what deterrent effect is this you speak off?

serious, zip to nada comes to mind. Are you also for cutting hands off thieves? No, I am not kidding.

[Marrah_G]

51. It is highly unlikely that it would have any effect on future pedophiles actions

These are very disturbed individuals.

I think people like the thought of vengeance, they like to say " oh good, I hope he gets raped" but if you were standing there, watching a brutal rape, your thoughts might be a little different.

We lock up people to keep them away from society, we do not lock them up to be tortured.

[LanternWaste]

67. I think you're confusing the words justice and vengeance

I think you're confusing the words justice and vengeance; however, as this is an emotionally charged issue, I'm certain that should you allow yourself to concentrate, you'd see that to be the case.

[yardwork]

89. Jerry Sandusky certainly wasn't deterred by the thought of being raped in prison.

Sandusky never thought that he would end up in prison. No deterrent effect whatsoever.

[pampango]

33. Judges and juries decide guilt and punishment. Other prisoners do not have a role in deciding

what represents 'just punishment'.

[nadinbrzezinski]

40. that is vengeance

[Honeycombe8]

95. Some would call it "street justice." Not that I condone such a thing.

But prisoners have their own heirarchy and ways of dealing with things, in their world that is excluded from the outside world. According to some documentaries I've seen. They "take care" of things in their own way. Guards can't take care of everything, and that's not their job. Prisoners dole out their own form of justice to child rapists, snitches, and other bottom of the rung criminals. Many violent prisoners have kids, and they ALL hate snitches, for obvious reasons.

It's sort of like the mob. They take care of business in their own way.

[nadinbrzezinski]

101. I know

but from the outside this reeks of vengeance.

[Honeycombe8]

108. Yeah, I suppose. But that's the way the world is.

A child rapist chose his "field" of crime. No one made him do his crimes. He voluntarily entered the world of violent criminals. This is the way the world works. In a way, it's like complaining about the mob hurting you, when you joined the mob voluntarily, knowing how they are.

Oh, well. My heart is more with the children. They didn't voluntarily join the world of crime. It was forced upon them, and they are still suffering. I won't shed any tears for Sandusky. He's an older fellow. Could be he'll die of natural causes before he's killed.

[nadinbrzezinski]

113. The only caveat

is that we have increasing evidence that these guys also have elements of mental disease.

My hope is that some day we can find them before they offend.

After that, yup, I feel for the victims as well

[treestar]

54. It may be in your mind but not under the law

In fact, that is not the punishment for any crime. And who should "get to" carry it out?

[unblock]

26. so rape is cool sometimes?

and here i thought rape was always wrong.

[LiberalAndProud]

31. Rape is never okay.

I understand you believe Sandusky deserves whatever is coming to him, and I won't disagree. But when we view the prison culture of rape as an integral part of the justice system (they have it coming), we forget the numbers of prisoners who are subjected to this violence who don't deserve it by any stretch of the imagination.

As long as our prison-rape culture is tolerated, we have a problem. "He has it coming" promotes and protects that culture. We accept it as normal. I have no pity for Sandusky. If he should be tortured, let us sanction state torture. To acknowledge the rape culture and even go so far as to relish it guarantees perpetuation. It's counterintuitive to justice in my mind.

[Jamastiene]

58. Exactly. Rape is never ok.

Never.

[MicaelS]

34. I disagree completely.

I support the Death Penalty, and I don't want to see him raped. I'd much rather see him locked up 23 hours a day in solitary for the remainder of his life. Not seeing a live child ever again.

[MadrasT]

41. It may be justice in your mind, but it is not his sentence as determined by the court.

Rape is not accepted method of punishment for a crime in the United States.

Additionally, in my opinion, rape is never OK and this eye for an eye stuff is bullshit.

[NYC_SKP]

125. Well I just have to disagree with your post here, rdking647. nt

[MadrasT]

39. I agree and I think it is disturbing that my state has no provision to keep inmates safe

from other inmates.

[treestar]

53. +1

I dislike this idea that the other prisoners should be justified in creating a death sentence not created by the justice system and getting to carry it out. And thinking that's a good thing.

[aikoaiko]

21. Administrative Custody Procedures

Its probably true that they don't have segregated populations for sex offenders, but they do have Administrative Custody Procedures. It will be interesting to see if he winds up in genpop.

AUTHORITY
The Authority of the Secretary of Corrections to direct the operation of the Department of Corrections is established by Sections 201, 206, 506, and 901-B of the Administrative Code of 1929, 71 P.S. §§61, 66, 186, and 310-1, Act of April 9, 1929, P.L. 177, No. 175, as amended.
II.
APPLICABILITY
This policy is applicable to all facilities operated under the jurisdiction of, or conducting business with the Department of Corrections.
III.
POLICY
It is the policy of the Department to place an inmate in AC status whose presence in general population would constitute a threat to life, property, himself/herself, staff, other inmates, the public, or the secure or orderly running of the facility.1

Google Administrative Custody Procedures Pennsylvania for the PDF.

[MADem]

30. I'd say he fits the policy--the "secure or orderly running of the facility" would be impacted if he

were assaulted or murdered.

[MadrasT]

42. Interesting, thanks. n/t

[jsr]

24. I don't think Pennsylvania prison officials will allow him to be murdered

that soon anyway.

[closeupready]

37. Fine with me.

nt

[DinahMoeHum]

43. Sandusky will be lower than dog shit in the inmate hierarchy.

Too many inmates themselves were abused as children.

Just sayin'

[WilliamPitt]

46. Father John Goehgan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Geoghan#Murder_of_Geoghan

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

48. So he really did get the death penalty...

My guess is one of his new "colleagues" will do the job faster than the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania could have.

No appeals, motherfucker.

[SDjack]

52. Before Day 20, Sandusky's lawyer will have negotiated a deal.

For isolation, Sandusky will spill his guts and name all the pedophiles he knows and what they did to whom.

[Stargazer09]

57. He should not get special treatment

Despite the high profile of the case, or even his age, he did something seriously wrong and has been found guilty.

He knew that he could go to prison if he was ever caught molesting children. He chose to do it anyway and did not seek help for his problems.

Prison is a rough place. He is going to need to find a way to adapt to his new environment.

I don't think he deserves to be treated better than the other prisoners. Likewise, I don't think he deserves to be mistreated by the other prisoners.

All I care about is keeping that creep away from children.

[lunatica]

62. Law and law enforcement should never endanger a criminal's life deliberately

Jesus! What a savage thing to promote!

[Stargazer09]

72. I didn't promote that!

I said he should NOT be mistreated by the other prisoners. Nobody should.

[lunatica]

78. OK. Sorry for overreacting!

I thought you were promoting "letting" him be in harms way while knowing something horrible would happen to him.

[Horse with no Name]

71. It is not special treatment for the State to uphold the obligation to keep those in its care safe

by whatever means necessary. The risks of being incarcerated should be no larger for Sandusky than for anyone else in their care. His presence in this facility is not voluntary--therefore, the burden of keeping him safe falls upon the state.

[Stargazer09]

73. That's true

But if the state laws state that he goes to general population, then he should go there. If there is a problem, then the prison authorities can proceed as they would with any other prisoner.

In other words, Sandusky is treated just like any other prisoner. No special treatment, but also not subjected to danger or abuse.

[nadinbrzezinski]

83. Protective custody for a high profile child abuser

is not special treatment, rather standard of practice... due to known issues

in fact, forget the high profile, just child abuser.

[Stargazer09]

84. All I'm saying

Is that he should not be given preferential treatment. If the law specifies that a child abuser, ANY convicted child abuser, should be placed in protective custody, then so be it. If not, then he goes wherever all the other child abusers go.

I'm not advocating for any sort of violence towards the guy.

[nadinbrzezinski]

85. The state claims they don't have protective custody facilities

problem is I call BS in that...there are a myriad of reasons prisons have those, child abusers being but one of many.

It is not as widespread as, but we do have rape/murder happen in prison for a variety of reasons.

Oh and it is far from special treatment...23 hours of isolation is all but special

[Arkana]

60. Then he's probably not going to live very long.

From what I've read, prisoners consider child molesters to be the bottom of the barrel.

[valerief]

63. I wonder if he'll be Geoghaned.

[99Forever]

68. It's disturbing to ...

... see so many arguing that the solution to inhuman crimes is allow and even encourage more inhuman crimes to be committed, as if it's some sort of "justice."

Sickening.

[Solly Mack]

69. It really is.

Sickening.

[atufal]

74. I agree.

Can someone tell me where the justice is in victimizers victimizing victimizers?

Now there may be some KARMA there, but justice? No. That is a perversion of the term. I wish many terrible things on Sandusky, as many people do. But we should not do anything to endanger him nor want guards or the system to look the other way as he is put in a position of danger. Wouldn't give the bastard special treatment, though. THAT is how we got here.

[Earth_First]

82. Yep.

Absolutely correct.

[DollarBillHines]

103. I agree. I have been on the "wrong" side of the bars.

But "inhuman" has no purchase in the GP.

Jerry Sandusky's days are, indeed, numbered.

I think the admin will keep him alive for six months or so, but they will eventually turn their backs.

[arely staircase]

111. i agree, but having said that

sandusky is pretty low on my list of people i worry about harm befalling. again i agree with you intellectually but i also can't really get that upset with those wishing him ill. whatever happens to him from this point on, the proximate cause was his rape of children. but now having said that they should put him in administrative segregation.

[barbtries]

75. oh well.

guess he should not have done the crimes.

[aquart]

76. Think he'll cry in the shower?

[Panasonic]

79. 30 seconds later...

toe tag applied...

[MineralMan]

91. Bye, now.

[tavernier]

92. Hubby worked in the prison system for many years, all levels.

I just read him your post, with no further comments. He raised an eyebrow and without hesitation said, "he'll be dead."

[Honeycombe8]

97. That jives with documentaries I've seen. It's like the mob. Violent criminals "take care of bidness"

with their own form of justice. Snitches and child rapists....they'll be targeted.

[MrMickeysMom]

98. I'll place my trust there...

That is the only way the misery will end.

He's injured his victims OVER AND OVER AND OVER... every time he claims "innocence"... They just don't ever change that story, and it must RIP the victims apart hearing it, reading it, seeing it on TV.

I can hardly stand reading the Post Gazette to see this stain on society and his claims of innocence... Can you imagine what all those boys (men) still FEEL?

Better off dead, I say...

[leveymg]

102. Looks like that life sentence is going to be shorter than most expected.

[appleannie1]

104. If necessary to insure his safety, they will put him in solitary. If not, Pennsylvania prison

system is pretty progressive. Pennsylvania prison inmates enjoy some of the best treatment in the United States reformatory system. While he may face threats and isolation from his peers, he will be given the same freedoms as other inmates. His day will include work, leisure, and communal recreation time—all of his choosing. If he wants, he will be able to purchase a 13-inch television for his room, at the price of about $275. While he will not have access to more than 15 stations, it is doubtful in PA that he’ll have any trouble finding Penn State football. In his spare time he can read books, watch movies, play a musical instrument, and even coach a team. He’ll be permitted to purchase cigarettes, read magazines, and even write a book (although never money gaining).

But sex offenders, especially pedophiles, have to watch their backs at all times. And they are not accepted by the other inmates. He will probably find out what his victims went through.

[brewens]

105. Not a chance! There's no way they let him get murdered and that's what would happen.

If they don't have segregation for pedophiles, they'll start with him.

[LeftyMom]

107. I bet they released this information so the threats will start in time to document them and move him

[littlewolf]

110. as a high profile inmate

he is going to be PC (protective custody) ... not necessarily because of the
child rape charges .... I watched alot of rapists as well as pedophiles
while I worked in prison ... they were not messed with ... they didn't
tell what they did .... but as long as they left folks alone ... folks left them
alone ... High profiles regardless of crime ... ALWAYS went to SHU/PC
Rape ... torture / rape .... murder ... if you made the TV ... you went to PC ...
we had 2 guys from Ft. Bragg Aryan Nation types ... killed a couple of
black families ... got life w/o parole .... they will be in PC for about 10-15 years
and then people forget ... they get shipped out of state and get a new name
and do the time in the general pop.
Sandusky ... to well known .... he will be in PC forever ...

[bluedigger]

115. Just like DU, prison populations have and enforce their own community standards.

We can deplore and bemoan the cruelty, but they don't really care about our opinion or the legalities. Sandusky should not look forward to a peaceful death in prison, unless his time comes before they can get to him, despite the State's responsibility to keep him safe. It took three attempts to get Daumer, but get him they did. Meh.

[4th law of robotics]

122. I kind of think prisoners should be given the option of suicide

it's your life, you should always have the choice to opt out.

And it's not like he has anything to look forward to.

/not that I'd ever do what he did but in his position I would take it immediately.

[Raine]

124. WOW wouldn't want to be him! nt

[budkin]

126. Death Sentence

Hope he enjoys the festivities before he goes!