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Pollster Says Obama Can't Win FL, NC and VA (Original Post) RandySF Oct 2012 OP
And what he means to say theKed Oct 2012 #1
or he can't find anybody who will pay him for polling in those places... nt msongs Oct 2012 #3
I'm not listening to anymore of these polling assholes, some of them lie as much as Mitt. Laurian Oct 2012 #2
+1 freshwest Oct 2012 #16
Ditto here. I'm sick and tired of the media's mind games. ailsagirl Oct 2012 #32
That's just goofy...esp. VA BeyondGeography Oct 2012 #4
There are just soooo many "pollsters" this year! Sparkly Oct 2012 #5
Or those who claim to be. Keeping that pot stirred. ailsagirl Oct 2012 #34
A pollster speaking to O'Lielly Panasonic Oct 2012 #6
Amen to that. freshwest Oct 2012 #17
That was pre-debate demwing Oct 2012 #30
Someone tell FLOTUS; she campaigned in VA today. CakeGrrl Oct 2012 #7
I saw clips of Michelle's VA speech on Lawrence's program... ailsagirl Oct 2012 #33
And he was telling this to O'Reilly on Fox News? That should tell you all you need to know. nt. OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #8
Calling bull. On this guy. So lame. BenzoDia Oct 2012 #9
Grrrrrr abelenkpe Oct 2012 #10
He sounds like an idiot. where the hell did they find this moron? hrmjustin Oct 2012 #11
"I worship the quicksand he walks in." rebuke Oct 2012 #12
So what, he knows the fix is in for FL and VA? lonestarnot Oct 2012 #13
Suffolk University poll, Oct 2: Obama Leads By 3 Points In Florida ProSense Oct 2012 #14
"...Obama Clinging to 2-Point Lead in Virginia" ailsagirl Oct 2012 #35
I went to realclear politics standingtall Oct 2012 #15
OOPS! There it is! Thanks for bringing that. freshwest Oct 2012 #18
He actually doesn't need to win any of them Proud Liberal Dem Oct 2012 #19
250,000 new voters in NC Tutonic Oct 2012 #20
Wouldn't this have a bit more credibility if the guy's own last polls didn't show O up in those 3? Mayberry Machiavelli Oct 2012 #21
Lol. Your FIRST clue is that they're talking to Bill O "Reilly. nt progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #22
According to Intrade... Julien Sorel Oct 2012 #23
Obama wins any of these three states exboyfil Oct 2012 #24
Maybe he'll form a partnership with Dick Morris. sadbear Oct 2012 #26
Shouldn't that say "Romney can't win"? I think he's flipped his candidates. dkf Oct 2012 #25
Translated: No one is paying us to do polls in those states. onenote Oct 2012 #27
bwahahahahahaaaaaa spanone Oct 2012 #28
I think he's right about North Carolina ... but not Florida and Virginia. Drunken Irishman Oct 2012 #29
I have $ 10 that says that Obama polls better in NC than FL. grantcart Oct 2012 #36
My guess is that Pollster David Paleologos is really dchill Oct 2012 #31
Good, then it will be a surprise when Pres O wins FL, NC and VA. AtomicKitten Oct 2012 #37

theKed

(1,235 posts)
1. And what he means to say
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 09:46 PM
Oct 2012

is that he won't be polling them any longer so as not to discourage loyal Republicans in those states when they read the dismal polls for Romney.

Laurian

(2,593 posts)
2. I'm not listening to anymore of these polling assholes, some of them lie as much as Mitt.
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 09:47 PM
Oct 2012

Just like the media, they are milking this election for all the $ they can get.

 

Panasonic

(2,921 posts)
6. A pollster speaking to O'Lielly
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 09:48 PM
Oct 2012

is not a real pollster.

Obama is slated to win FL, NC and VA easily despite what that moron pollster thinks.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
30. That was pre-debate
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 12:03 AM
Oct 2012

nothing that happened before the debate matters. Nothing that happens from this point forward (like three more debates) will matter.

There is only today, and today it rains.

CakeGrrl

(10,611 posts)
7. Someone tell FLOTUS; she campaigned in VA today.
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 09:49 PM
Oct 2012

Methinks the Obama ground game team knows better than the pollster.

ailsagirl

(22,897 posts)
33. I saw clips of Michelle's VA speech on Lawrence's program...
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 12:25 AM
Oct 2012

and she was just sensational!! Full of vigor and true passion, she was magnificent as she listed the many reasons to vote for Barack (what she called him). And the crowd was right there with her.

rebuke

(56 posts)
12. "I worship the quicksand he walks in."
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 09:55 PM
Oct 2012

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
- Will Rogers (1879-1935)

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
14. Suffolk University poll, Oct 2: Obama Leads By 3 Points In Florida
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 09:56 PM
Oct 2012
Obama Leads By 3 Points In Florida

President Obama leads Republican nominee Mitt Romney 46 percent to Romney's 43 percent in a new poll of Florida from Suffolk University. From their analysis:

Romney continues to struggle with his likability. His 45 percent favorable rating is 3 points higher than in a survey the Suffolk University Political Research Center conducted in May; yet his unfavorable rating is also up 2 points, to 47 percent today.

Obama has been consistently more popular, with a 51 percent favorable and 46 percent unfavorable rating.

<...>

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/obama-leads-by-3-points-in-florida


Poll Shows Obama Clinging to 2-Point Lead in Virginia

President Barack Obama (46 percent) clings to a 2-point lead over Republican challenger Mitt Romney (44 percent), in a swing-state nail-biter, according to a Suffolk University/NBC12 (WWBT-Richmond) poll of likely general-election voters in Virginia. Seven percent were undecided.

The race is close – with survey results within the statistical margin of error – despite a decided popularity advantage for Obama. He boasted a +8 (52 percent favorable to 44 percent unfavorable) to Romney’s -3 (42 percent favorable to 45 percent unfavorable).

- more -

http://www.suffolk.edu/offices/53562.html

ailsagirl

(22,897 posts)
35. "...Obama Clinging to 2-Point Lead in Virginia"
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 12:45 AM
Oct 2012

"clinging"??
Why is that particular word used? What's wrong with "leading"?? Gratuitiously negative. Deliberately used to demoralize us. As one DUer wrote, "Enough of this bull----!"

standingtall

(2,785 posts)
15. I went to realclear politics
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 09:56 PM
Oct 2012

and looked through the state polls, and as far as I can tell the last Suffolk did in Florida had Obama up +3, and +2 in Virginia. So now he goes on Fuax news, and says Obama has no chance at those states? Make sense

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,416 posts)
19. He actually doesn't need to win any of them
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 10:05 PM
Oct 2012

though I suspect that he will win AT LEAST one of them (probably Virginia).

Tutonic

(2,522 posts)
20. 250,000 new voters in NC
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 10:21 PM
Oct 2012

awesome ground game in VA. I'll wager that $10,000 Mr. Paleologos that NC and VA re blue. I'm guessing that Hispanics will do the job in FL too. Hey folks the Rethugs criticize O for being a community organizer, but the man knows how to organize and register voters. Why do you think that clown in Ohio is appealing the decision re: early voting. Chill out folks, he has got this one.

Mayberry Machiavelli

(21,096 posts)
21. Wouldn't this have a bit more credibility if the guy's own last polls didn't show O up in those 3?
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 10:46 PM
Oct 2012

I mean it's one thing if he just said there's no money being put up for him to poll there. But wtf.

Julien Sorel

(6,067 posts)
23. According to Intrade...
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 10:59 PM
Oct 2012

Obama has a 26% chance in NC; a 48% chance to win Florida; and a 54% chance to win Virginia. No legitimate pollster would make such a nuthouse statement. I can't find anything on it in the news or on Paleologos' website or blog. Can someone else corroborate this? It would be quite a piece of polling hackery if true.

On edit, after seeing the video, I'm speechless. This guy is either really, really smart, or really, really dumb. I vote for the second.

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
24. Obama wins any of these three states
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 11:47 PM
Oct 2012

then I would have to think his career as pollster is over. He would have absolutely no credibility left. Way to burn down your career.

sadbear

(4,340 posts)
26. Maybe he'll form a partnership with Dick Morris.
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 11:50 PM
Oct 2012

That guy is never right, yet he still manages a regular gig on fox news. Hell, maybe the guy's trying to muscle in on Rasmussen territory.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
36. I have $ 10 that says that Obama polls better in NC than FL.
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 12:47 AM
Oct 2012

300,000 new voters registered.

60,000 Hispanics registered

Every single voter in the state has been identified in what may become one of the greatest GOTV in political history.

How many offices does Obama have in NC? 70? 100?

This article is dated but it gives you an idea



http://www.thenation.com/article/169293/battleground-2012-can-obama-win-north-carolina-again#

Pollsters cannot adjust for huge GOTV efforts, there is no model for them.
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