Obama Advisers "This race is pretty stagnant"-&-"you know, if you want to believe the Pew poll..."

[kpete]

HALPERIN: So, to the extent the debate had an impact on those nine states, what was it? How would you qualify it or quantify it?

OBAMA ADVISER 2: Well, first of all, ..I think it’s too, it’s becoming about time to look or a little soon to figure out what’s noise and what’s not. But, you know, … there’s just not a lot of movement out there. This race is pretty stagnant.

HALPERIN: So, the conventional wisdom is, driven partly by the national polls and some state polls, that the debate had a transformative effect on the President’s and Governor Romney’s standing nationally and in the battleground states is incorrect?

OBAMA ADVISER 2: Correct, we do not believe that at all. And, you know, if you want to believe the Pew poll that shows us tied with women voters and having party ID move ten points in a month, which would be 20 million people, I think that you should…

OBAMA ADVISER 1: 20 million people decided they were Republicans in the last month.

OBAMA ADVISER 2: Right, it’s just not, you know, it’s just not…

OBAMA ADVISER 1: And we’re going to see more of these polls coming out to show tightening of the race and that’s just, that’s how it goes. And, you know, just like we got a bounce coming out of the convention, we knew that bounce wasn’t real and wasn’t going to be sustainable. This isn’t going to be sustainable either.

OBAMA ADVISER 2: But here’s what the last ones didn’t change, it didn’t change his problems in the Midwest, on a whole host of issues. Didn’t change on cars. Didn’t change on outsourcing. It didn’t make him a better candidate in Ohio or Iowa or Wisconsin. And, you know, you just look at the map, he’s going to continue — we have more pathways to 270 — he’s got his problem, you’ve written that, and you’re right. It is, for him, and for us, in the end, about the map.

Read more: http://thepage.time.com/...

http://thepage.time.com/2012/10/09/excerpts-from-mark-halperins-interview-with-senior-obama-campaign-officials-at-the-chicago-headquarters/#ixzz28qkF3yb9
http://echidneofthesnakes.blogspot.com/2012/10/the-polling-games.html

[Cha]

1. thank kpete

[doublethink]

2. That Gender vote swing ...

as it pertains to women in this PewPoll is just too hard for me to fathom. Trying to tell me that President Obama went from 56%, Romney 38% to ..... 47% President Obama 47% Romney. Not buying it. From the reaction I got from female friends and family was that Romney was 'rude' scary in the debate. He said nothing of substance to swing women's vote that drastically. Forward.

[bigtree]

3. any sober, rational observer could make that analysis

. . . but, what flurry of misinformation we've had this week on these polls and what's influencing them. I think it's a consequence of the speed and quickness in the way info and developments are being disseminated.