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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsEd Schultz Is Really Pissing Me Off......
he has done more to hurt Obama since the debate starting with his reaction right after the debate. He keeps repeating and repeating that the President did bad in the debate. Why isn't he concentrating on the lies that Rmoney told at the debate? Why isn't he talking about all the fiip-flopping that Rmoney has done consistently. Why isn't he talking about Rmoney trying to make himself over as a person that cares cause you can see right through his falseness?
Shut your trap Ed. Either get on Obama's bandwagon or move over to Fox.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Seems more like a mole to me.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,761 posts)liberalmike27
(2,479 posts)I've been making the points for nearly a decade now that 1.) there is no liberal media and 2.) Democrats want to be fair, Republicans want to win, so Republicans end up winning, and staying in office.
Also lately I've put forward the idea that if you judge on substance, truth, honesty, and detracted for dishonesty, flipping of positions, and deceit, Obama won.
Cenk Uygur tonight on his Current show demonstrated both of them for me, that is if you've not figured out yet that there is no real liberal television media. He talked about how right-wing television supported their candidates no matter what, even when their candidates lost. Then he talked about how Democratic television was trying to be honest, so they said Obama lost, which was exactly like right-wing television.
So, if we actually had left-wing media, we would've seen them defend Obama both on truth, lack of lies and deceit, and substance, the winner, admitting perhaps that he appeared a bit tired, but that is to be expected, campaigning constantly and running the country too.
The supposed "liberal media" though did neither. They treated Obama like a red-headed stepchild, as if he was the worst, and probably make Akin feel a whole lot better. Cenk talking about the left "wanting to be honest" proved my other point. While Democrats putter around with their honesty, and fairness, and resign at the drop of the hat, Republicans drive through the pain, they put up with the scandal, they support their own candidates for the most part. Rarely do they attack them, unless they are just plain being stupid.
It isn't something I had to have proved to me again. I said as the season progressed, and Obama picked up a big lead, that they would be doing back-flips, making things up, flip-flopping and not being called on it like a "Kerry" to try to get it close. This debate was chosen to be "the Dean Scream" of this campaign. I said it on the morning of the debate, "It doesn't matter what Obama says or does, he is going to be declared the loser. Once again, we see that our media isn't "left/right" as it has portrayed itself, but a corporate entity, only interested in the goals and ambitions of corporations. Certainly MSNBC and Current are left of FOX--but what isn't? With the exception of Rush and a few complete nuts like Glen Beck, everything on television is left of FOX. But clearly it's not Democratic, and nowhere near liberal.
Just know who you're listening to, and don't be conned into thinking millions' a year paid talking-heads are on your side. They aren't. They are on the side of evening it up, to try to get more viewers to pay attention to their rants and attacks on Obama.
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)like me felt after that debate. I am baffled, I am at a lost to explain why President Obama was so good at rallies leading up to the debate, but so seemingly disinterested during the debate.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)slammng Obama when it is so close to a so very important election.
they went nuts with the overkill on subject.
with friends like that, who needs enemas.
Godless in Seattle
(120 posts)MSNBC has made FAUX's efforts a lot easier, heck knows why.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)rurallib
(62,431 posts)I will guarantee he is no Republican any longer.
If he has a fault it is that he cares too much. He now really feels the pain people go through. As an old jock, he wants to win badly and will give it all for his team.
So what you see is a guy wanting to win, pushing for his teammate to give a little extra to win
livetohike
(22,147 posts)again. Such drama.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,235 posts)livetohike
(22,147 posts)and he said he was a Republican, but his wife influenced him to become a Democrat. He's showing his true colors now.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,235 posts)He switched for $$$$$$. He dreams of being as big as Rush & O'Reilly, and have that kind of influence, where he can command millions of braindead people to do his bidding, and make a helluva lot of dough in the process, but it'll never happen. The left just isn't like that.
livetohike
(22,147 posts)I can see that. He would probably be just as comfortable over at Fox.
earthside
(6,960 posts)patrice
(47,992 posts)skeewee08
(1,983 posts)Also I haven't listen to his radio show since the debate
livetohike
(22,147 posts)OldDem2012
(3,526 posts)...I'm done with those two media prima donnas.
livetohike
(22,147 posts)after the debate was anything but intelligent. Just another corporate shill, doing as expected. I haven't watched him either. I think I am most disappointed in him. With Ed, I never was a huge fan, although I used to stream his radio show in the early days.
Sebass1271
(2,332 posts)Give al gore some ratings.
livetohike
(22,147 posts)I watch Cenk and Jennifer Granholm .
Samantha
(9,314 posts)election. That is unforgivable, at least to me. Spitzer is not a substitute for Olbermann.
Sam
abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)He used to be on at the same time as Lawrence....
catbyte
(34,412 posts)Whisp
(24,096 posts)I might get over it but for now they are dead to me.
I didn't mind that they had critical things to say about the debate - but omfg they went stupid ballistic and ignored the piss poor awful job Romney did and just hammered on Obama.
amateur assholes.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,235 posts)watch Tweety's commercials on the two shows I still watch. Thank goodness for DVR.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)enough of this for the night.
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)momentum, it's not just the debate, it's the man behind the curtain where corporate interests and Wall St are concerned.
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)Now the race is getting tight toward uncertainty, President Obama's base is hopeful but demoralized. We are left hoping for a strong debate from a guy that is prone to gaffes. THis is not a good place to be, but we must remain resolute.
DevonRex
(22,541 posts)DollarBillHines
(1,922 posts)"Yesterday's news" could also be called "History".
Ed then went on to call the Liar just that - a liar.
DevonRex
(22,541 posts)Oh my.
DollarBillHines
(1,922 posts)I am simply saying that we should not automatically dismiss yesterday's news.
I have two dozen Obama/Biden signs on two miles of fence on my property. I have also met the max on my personal contributions to the campaign.
You?
What's a Godwin?
DevonRex
(22,541 posts)I'm overdoing it with volunteering. I'll have to stop soon or my health will pay. Immune deficient so can't stick around once the seasonal bugs start going around.
Godwin's Law is the first person who brings up Hitler automatically loses the argument. This is the first time I didn't have to ask somebody the guy's name so it made me happy. Silly I know. We get joy from silly things sometimes.
Obama is a low key debater. Always has been. Somebody found the debate style that Romney used and there's not much defense against it from what I gathered.
We shall see what team Obama comes up with. I doubt Romney will use it again. How many times can he change every single position he has without people chasing him with pitchforks?
DollarBillHines
(1,922 posts)I probably could have used a better example (Hitler, I mean.).
The last few years have been financially disastrous for me, but when Citizens United was shoved thru I sold two of my farm trucks in order to donate to the Obama campaign. This act has proven to be quite a speed-bump, but just last night I told my partner that I would do it again if it would help.
She looked at me, aghast, and shouted, "We only have two f*****g trucks left!"
I tried to explain that I only said I would do it again, but she was too far gone - climbing the walls.
On the plus side, our grape yield is up 30+% this Harvest.
Regarding romney's lies, did you see this?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251128664
Take care of yourself, volunteering can sap you. Get inside and stay warm when the season hits.
DBH
PS I have been hanging around (lurking?) this site for a while and I always enjoy seeing your posts.
DBH
DevonRex
(22,541 posts)not to get this thread off topic. But it looks really interesting. Right up my alley actually. Thank you. Glad to meet you.
OldDem2012
(3,526 posts)...along with you and a few others on this board who have opted for curling up on the floor naked in the fetal position while crying and lying in a pool of excrement.
Fathead Ed is full of crap.
Get a grip and get back in the game.
treestar
(82,383 posts)There is no such thing as a knockout punch in an election.
It's not going to be decided until Election Day. We can't expect some event to happen that can reassure us of that.
Samantha
(9,314 posts)and knew immediately he could not refute Romney's about-face on several issues plus address a viewing audience with whom he would never have another chance to address on the issues: Republicans. President Obama knew the fact-checkers would hound Romney's debut of his etch-a-sketch performance and correct the public's impression on Romney's performance. So he chose to take advantage of his two minutes to address the audience, knowing the other problem would be addressed in the ensuing days.
I personally think it was smart, strategic decision, and I do not consider Romney the winner of the debate. He is the winner of performance art, but that doesn't count.
So Ed was looking for a gladiator fight, and he is ticked he did not get one. Oh, well, it was Obama's decision to make, and I agree with it.
Sam
Tarheel_Dem
(31,235 posts)flamingdem
(39,313 posts)because he was over the top before he still wants to be "right" for his credibility.
So what does he achieve? Difficult to say if he is demoralizing or indirectly energizing the base.
He wants Obama or the team to focus on the 47% comments among other things
Whisp
(24,096 posts)because saving face for him is probably more important than the election..
just watch, he will crit Obama and Biden on the future debates no matter how well they do, just so he is 'right'.
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)wonder if he'd read it .. might be worth trying to get through to him
Whisp
(24,096 posts)probably already done to death. heh.
spanone
(135,851 posts)swaying the polls to the romney camp
Blue Idaho
(5,049 posts)Nothing like losing market share to send Big Ego a wake-up call.
julian09
(1,435 posts)DevonRex
(22,541 posts)meadowlark5
(2,795 posts)Joan Walsh was talking about how moderate and likeable Romeny was during the debate. Ed was talking about how horrible Obama was and how Romney's campaign has all the basics down. Good fucking grief! You are absolutely right. Ed, who is usually yelling at his audience to support this president, sure has abandoned his own order. That whole piece with Robinson and Walsh was a piece of shit. And I would have really liked to slap Joan Walsh. Stupid twit. Not once did any of the 3 say, "even though he lied the entire debate" :
still_one
(92,273 posts)Whole msm is dwelling on the 1st debate
It will make the subsequent debates even more important, and in the short retention of the public the first debate will soon be forgotten
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)After the unemployment rate and jobs numbers from Friday, Romney is cornered and he knows it. Romney's debate performance got blunted by the UE and jobs news. As more people soak in the UE and jobs news, Romney will have more problems because voters start seeing a path forward with Obama. Romney's dilemma is exactly why President Obama must come out swinging, the President can't ignore any Romney lie like the President did for too many during the first debate.
still_one
(92,273 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)global1
(25,253 posts)but that's exactly what he is doing today.
Lawrence O'Donnell is the guy that I like to watch on MSNBC followed closely by Rachel Maddow and then - yes you heard it from me - Chris Matthews.
I've had it with Shultz. I stopped listening to his radio show and I guess I'll have to stop watching him now too.
DevonRex
(22,541 posts)day in, day out over the SAME GODDAMNED EVENT. Over and over and over and over and over. By now he could have had it translated into 50 languages and had anthropologists from each culture dissect the body language frame by fucking frame.
Logical
(22,457 posts)DollarBillHines
(1,922 posts)Simply do a search on any talking head (except Faux) on this site and you will experience instant vertigo.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)We People
(619 posts)He's been very subdued ever since the his meltdown the night of the first debate. I think he got the message that he was too emotional and that he's trying to pace himself. I didn't notice him being "pro-Romney" yesterday or the day before, or maybe I'm not listening for Obama put-downs.
I thought his show was good.
In his time slot, what reliable alternatives do we have on TV? Does anyone listen to his radio show? Sometimes I have the chance to, and he is supportive of Democratic candidates and values.
As one with a stake in public education, I'm forever grateful to Ed Schultz for being the first of the MSNBC anchors for stepping out on a limb to be supportive of teachers and other govt employees who are getting the shaft with Republican state governors and legislators. Especially since Obama's support of education accomodates Republican ideas WAY too much, thanks to the selection of Arne Duncan to his cabinet.
I'm taking the long view of Ed and his show, and he has much more to offer than he has ever taken away from us. I'm glad he has been on our side, and I see no signs that he is betraying us.
earthside
(6,960 posts)He's taking Rmoney apart.
You can bury your head in the sand and deny that Pres Obama did a lousy job last week.
Or you can deal with the truth and get busy.
Ed is just telling it like it is.
DevonRex
(22,541 posts)it for the third time. He needs to get HIS lazy ass in gear and get some new material. Old news is today's garbage. This old news was thursday's garbage.
cheriemedium59
(212 posts)DevonRex
(22,541 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)Ed's job is to make Obama look as bad as possible in order to help Rmoney and let the Republicans point to these pretend liberals and say "even the liberals think the Democrats are failures."
But his job is certainly not honest, neutral political analysis.
timlot
(456 posts)The so called "liberal media" has done more to hurt Obama then FoxNews and Romney could ever dream. Yes the President didn't do as well as he should have in the debate, but they have blow it wayyy out of proportion. I truly believe most people who made up their mind to vote for the president aren't going to change that, but there is a percentage of the population that likes to vote for who the winning team. If the media convinces them Romney is ahead that mind share will be difficult to overcome.
gateley
(62,683 posts)trolls were never going to.
He's not doing anything that will "harm Obama".
I'd rather see an opinion I don't share than everyone marching in lockstep as the Fox drones do. If it upsets me too much, I can turn it off.
DollarBillHines
(1,922 posts)When Stepford-style lockstep sets in, the game is over.
DBH
Tarheel_Dem
(31,235 posts)gateley
(62,683 posts)about -- isn't that what we all do here?
meadowlark5
(2,795 posts)But stop fluffing up Romney, Ed. We have every other single network doing that. Ed knows Romney lied excessively yet Ed keeps talking about how wonderful Romney was and how fantastic Romney's team is. WTF? So you might think that by continually making those statements in his radio show and tv program isn't helping anyone but Romney. Maybe Big Eddie wants Romney to win. It sure would make his job more secure attacking Romney for 4 years.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)IOW... DO NOT RELAX... GOTV !!!
And probably attracting more viewers...
And publicly prodding the President not to miss his final two opportunities.
Whether it's necessary for that second option... is business, and that third option... is doubtful.
DevonRex
(22,541 posts)Unless....
His evil plan is to force us all from our television sets and out into the streets where we will magically put on happy faces instead of these grumpy Ed-watching faces and recruit new Obama voters with our sheer charisma and joy???
Nah...
Warpy
(111,292 posts)I've just tuned in long enough to hear him hammering away at Obama's "poor" performance and switched off.
I have no idea why so many of them seem to be doing this shit. I just know I'm not bothering with it.
Poor performance, my ass. He wiped the floor with Romney, Romney only won "asshole of the night."
Whisp
(24,096 posts)and talk about his 'presence' and 'passion' and 'animation'! Oh, he's got his fire back! What a man! Look at his pole rise! Obama better watch out, we gotta contender here, yessiree!
i want to fucking barf.
Eliot can go fuck himself too.
Everyone should go ftgemselves!! I am freaking tired of this ebdkess hammering
Tarheel_Dem
(31,235 posts)Current sucks!
gulliver
(13,186 posts)95% of the true election damage is squarely the fault of our sides' pundits, bloggers, and netroots. They failed to echo all of the good things Obama said. They failed to kneecap Romney for his lies, his sweaty upper lip, his whininess, and his teary eyes.
They failed miserably, not Obama. Now they have to blame him more and more vociferously to keep the finger of blame pointing away from themselves.
treestar
(82,383 posts)at least. They've been moaning and pissing for three years. If President Obama was ahead in the polls it was in spite of them.
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)Sure, Obama wasn't at his best. But nobody ever likes to mention the fact that he didn't say anything controversial or crazy last week, like Romney did when he mentioned cutting funding to PBS and how he told 27 lies in 38 minutes at one point. Apparently according to American media, a person cannot win a debate if they just play it safe and tell the truth.
Island Blue
(5,819 posts)Not in regards to the debates, just in general toward the end of the campaign. Haven't watched or listened to him since that time.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)iirc.
I didn't watch him then, just stuff here posted from youtube.
but same sort of stuff - raging actorholic.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,235 posts)say this or that", and "he better do blah blah blah". Ed jumped into a fight, and when he saw the chance he was on the losing side, he thought the president should save his bacon. I don't know why, because Ed tends to blame the president for everything. Who the hell is he to issue directives to this president?
Bigredhunk
(1,351 posts)One of my friends is a doom & gloom'er (w/respect to EVERYTHING). I'm not. So when there's "bad news" I avoid the sensationalist crap like the plague. I haven't been going on HP at all (and it's my home page). Not watching Ed at all. I'm not contributing to the "sky is falling"/horse race crap. I'm not sticking my head in the sand. I'm just not giving in to panic.
I'm upbeat (would you rather your guy had a 70% shot or a 30% shot??).
bowens43
(16,064 posts)The lies are irrelevent. What is being said by either candidte will be quickly forgotten. What won't be forgotten is how it was said. Romney appeared confident and stiong Obama looked weak and confused
Whisp
(24,096 posts)because I didn't see it that way AT ALL.
cheriemedium59
(212 posts)I am surprised he is still hanging on so long to his anger. I understand he fights
for Obama and the middle class every night and feels let down by the President
and his not so stellar performance the other night. But I still like Ed, and I
know he is in our corner. It was extremely frustrating to see Obama not challenge
Mittens during that debate. I have never ever seen him so compliant and
detached. Hopefully this is a huge wake up call. I am afraid if his 2nd debate
is another poor performance he could lose even more support. It is just sad..
southern_belle
(1,647 posts)fearnobush
(3,960 posts)If there is anything positive about this media train wreck it doing wonders to lower the media's debate expectations for Obama. One thing is for sure, Obama sucked last week. He failed in so many ways. But the reality is even if he did good, he still would have lost ground. The challenger almost always wins the first debate. Barack can do a lot better with less expectation than before.
cheriemedium59
(212 posts)Whisp
(24,096 posts)I did't think Obama did bad at all - it's just that Romney did so good - at lieing his fucking face off. I think everyone was taken aback by that.
anyway, Obama will prevail. I have every confidence because we've been down this gloom road so many times - so many times people have threatened to give up on him, but he prevails. even under all that pressure he gets from his opponents and from his side, he still ends up the smart one. every single time.
treestar
(82,383 posts)for Republicans.
They just do it in a twisted way.
Haven't he and Rachel been moaning for the past 3 years? Nothing President Obama or the 111th Congress did was good enough for them. Nothing the 112th Congress did or blocked was ever their fault.
DevonRex
(22,541 posts)been just a little disagreement among them since then. But nope.
Berserker
(3,419 posts)on asphalt that next day in Madison Wisconsin after the debate to listen to my president speak. I am not a young man and it kicked my ass. But I believe in Obama and I know Big Eddie does also. He was disappointed in the way Obama handled the debate as well as I was how about you?
We all know Obama could have destroyed romney but he chose not to. Why?
And you blame Big Eddie? Lighten the fuck up let's see in the next debate what happens.
patrice
(47,992 posts)slackmaster
(60,567 posts)rustydog
(9,186 posts)Obama did ok at the debate, I think Romney controlled it with his rudeness, but he controlled it.
Ed has every right to say Obama did bad as you have every right to say: "Shut your trap.."
Whisp
(24,096 posts)to the prospects of an election win than a DUer telling that fucker to shut his trap.
NCLefty
(3,678 posts)You should begin now
CakeGrrl
(10,611 posts)What is the GAIN in watching these pundits when it's known they're on the corporate payroll?
Their bosses want a horse race, so they do their part.
patrice
(47,992 posts)the legit & courageous critics.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)... into gear in the debates
madrchsod
(58,162 posts)i hit the cd switch on the car`s media center
Raine
(30,540 posts)thanks to Tweetie but so did Rachel. Tweetie is the one I can't stand.
patrice
(47,992 posts)intersects Populism.
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)flamingdem
(39,313 posts)ed? ed? r u listening
shut .. trap .. plz
brentspeak
(18,290 posts)And to stop looking like a zombified fool during his own debates.
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)B Calm
(28,762 posts)Mike knows he's a republican in disguise!
Astazia
(262 posts)I turned on my radio one day later and Randi was gone & Ed was there. Disappointed isn't even close to how I felt. Who wad this guy?
That was then...& even though I know he is a champion for labor...he needs to deflate that fat head of his & remember it it's better to shut up & be thought a fool, than to speak & remove all doubt! He is not helping! I didn't know he was a repukelican, but it makes sense of late. Enough already Ed! STFU already!
(Love Mike Malloy)
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)I am forever disappointed in Ed and Rachel
the others I know are not Obama fans
and remember- MSNBC at end of day is owned by the same corporation billionaires
they are not independent thought at all.
and remember parent NBC does their polls with Rupert Murdoch's Wall Street Journal (WSJ)
Whisp
(24,096 posts)I was hoping it wasn't like... you know, THAT. I turned it off when I saw Ed's face go Pantone 185.
that sure is disappointing.
Indpndnt
(2,391 posts)Just not in the over-the-top OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG! way that Tweety and Ed went off. They were practically airborne in their fury. Rachel was very, very, very disappointed and vocal (as always) about it. Sharpton, Chris Hayes, and O'Donnell (later) were all calm and rational, so it was a very achievable state that night, all evidence to the contrary.
Somebody needs to remind the media that, if they could do what the President does every day, they'd be doing it and not just yammering about it for money.
catbyte
(34,412 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)Stop watching so much goddamned TV in the first place!
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MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)Welcome to DU
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)I got over it for a minute. I figured he was shocked by Obama's debate performance. I wasn't I expected a lot more and I wasn't sure what Romney would show up. I really didn't expect the Robin Williams version, so I figured no one else expected that either. It's hard prepping to debate The 3 Faces of Eve. But, now it's a week later and Ed is still foaming at the mouth. I can't wait til the next big thing so Ed can refocus his anger somewhere else.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)brentspeak
(18,290 posts)I would be more pissed off at Obama than I would at Ed Schultz, who simply pointed out how Obama managed to shoot his own campaign in the foot.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)he was himself.
if he was wild eyed and flailing and flushing and lieing and zipped up on some drugs like Mitt, yah, he coulda won it.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Ed is not very sophisticated and his background is somewhat narrow. He lacks a basic understanding of the things he gets into a rant about. Remember those ads with him walking around stacked containers? He aggressively pronounced that they were just waiting to get filled with American goods. No trailer has ever waited anywhere to be filled on the weaker route. Container traffic is always determined by the strong demand side. Either he doesn't understand this simple point or he doesn't care what he says when he is on a polemical rant.
Maddow and O'Donnell are much more professional, for that matter so is Sharpton.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)are polls getting tighter? yes.
was a dismal performance, yup.
is this a state of the facts right now? yes.
will it change? Does the sun rise in the East?
Rowdyboy
(22,057 posts)been in the mood.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Seriously. Don't watch if he pisses you off this much. Really. Is anyone forcing you to watch? I don't think so.
BainsBane
(53,035 posts)Volunteer, get out the vote. If we all do our part, it will go a long way. Voter turnout is everything. Obama leads in all registered voter polls. It's likely voter models where he falls short. We have to turn those registered voters into actual voters. Call your local Obama office and volunteer.
just1voice
(1,362 posts)Replace "propaganda" with any MSMedia station like MSNBC, they fit the definition perfectly:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda
"Propaganda is a form of communication that is aimed at influencing the attitude of a community toward some cause or position by presenting only one side of an argument. Propaganda is usually repeated and dispersed over a wide variety of media in order to create the chosen result in audience attitudes.
As opposed to impartially providing information, propaganda, in its most basic sense, presents information primarily to influence an audience. Propaganda often presents facts selectively (thus possibly lying by omission) to encourage a particular synthesis, or uses loaded messages to produce an emotional rather than rational response to the information presented. The desired result is a change of the attitude toward the subject in the target audience to further a political or religious agenda."
Iggy
(1,418 posts)uhh, maybe because hundreds of other people in MSM are doing so?
and BTW, just what is the purpose of pointing out GOP lies, cheating and stealing? is this
something new? No, there's nothing new here
the notion of many in Bloggo world: "Ohhhh, if only we could get people to see all those
GOP lies, Obama would get millions of new voters and he would surely win!!".. this is nonsense.
_ed_
(1,734 posts)His job is to gin up rating for his corporate news network.
rainlillie
(1,095 posts)..
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)with Obama's performance...that Obama did not call out all the lies and flip flopping that Romney was doing. Ed has done countless, repetitive stories on Rmoney's flip flopping, and all sorts of negative things about Rmoney.
I think he overreacted to the debate performance, but he's an emotional person. That's part of his charm and why people watch him. Like Biden. Like Tweety.
He's lightened up on the debate performance...it's fading. Obama's performance WAS baffling and horrible. Who could have predicted it? It was mind boggling. I thought, "What the hell happened?" But...it was a bad night. Not the election.