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global1

(25,253 posts)
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 08:13 PM Oct 2012

Ed Schultz Is Really Pissing Me Off......

he has done more to hurt Obama since the debate starting with his reaction right after the debate. He keeps repeating and repeating that the President did bad in the debate. Why isn't he concentrating on the lies that Rmoney told at the debate? Why isn't he talking about all the fiip-flopping that Rmoney has done consistently. Why isn't he talking about Rmoney trying to make himself over as a person that cares cause you can see right through his falseness?

Shut your trap Ed. Either get on Obama's bandwagon or move over to Fox.

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Ed Schultz Is Really Pissing Me Off...... (Original Post) global1 Oct 2012 OP
Ed is a "former" Republican Cali_Democrat Oct 2012 #1
Ed isn't a mole, but he tends to get excessively excited. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2012 #5
Posted This Below liberalmike27 Oct 2012 #129
Ed is a hard left liberal. Ed is just voicing the disappointment that avid Obama supporter bluestate10 Oct 2012 #16
I am baffled as to why Eddie and his Bird friend went all crazy Whisp Oct 2012 #62
Yes Godless in Seattle Oct 2012 #101
Ed is not a mole. hrmjustin Oct 2012 #77
been listening to Schultz for a long time and have watched his transformation rurallib Oct 2012 #96
Personally, I haven't watched him since the debate and I don't plan to livetohike Oct 2012 #2
^^^^ THIS ^^^^!!!! Let the teanutters have him. Seems to be who he's playing to now. Tarheel_Dem Oct 2012 #17
Definitely - he can go. I remember when his radio show was first streamin livetohike Oct 2012 #19
Randi Rhodes said early on that he was a Rush wannabe, who couldn't break through in RW radio. Tarheel_Dem Oct 2012 #28
Yeah, I remember Randi saying that years ago, too livetohike Oct 2012 #36
Randi who? n/t earthside Oct 2012 #46
Nailed it. Media MILLIONAIRE CYA. patrice Oct 2012 #93
Same here livetohike skeewee08 Oct 2012 #26
There are probably quite a few of us who feel this way n/t livetohike Oct 2012 #35
Fathead Ed and Tweety are on my s***-list... OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #31
I expected more from Tweety....but his performance livetohike Oct 2012 #34
Guys PLEASE tune in to Current Tv. Sebass1271 Oct 2012 #67
Well, I don't like Elliot Spitzer. So that is the 8:00 PM EST slot livetohike Oct 2012 #68
No thank you, they fired Keith Olbermann and that is why his commentary is absent during this Samantha Oct 2012 #89
Where is Cenk? abelenkpe Oct 2012 #103
7 pm & 1 am ET catbyte Oct 2012 #107
me too. can't stand to see/hear them any more. Whisp Oct 2012 #60
They fed the Fox News trolls, and that's unforgiveable. Screw 'em. I can't even bear to.... Tarheel_Dem Oct 2012 #114
Yup. elleng Oct 2012 #3
I just turned to "Kitchen Nightmares" notadmblnd Oct 2012 #4
You are also incorrect - w/o the MSM cheerleading romney wouldn't be gaining flamingdem Oct 2012 #13
Ed is right. President Obama could have delivered a knockout punch. bluestate10 Oct 2012 #6
So fucking what? It's OVER. YESTERDAY'S NEWS. NT DevonRex Oct 2012 #14
Yeah, kinda like the Nazi thing... DollarBillHines Oct 2012 #54
Oomph. GODWIN. WE GOTTA GODWIN HERE!!!! DevonRex Oct 2012 #56
What's a Godwin? DollarBillHines Oct 2012 #61
Haven't maxed on money but as usual DevonRex Oct 2012 #72
Thanks, I'll remember that. DollarBillHines Oct 2012 #85
I answered you there so as DevonRex Oct 2012 #98
I don't know anyone who is "demoralized" except for some select whining media ... OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #37
This expectation is too much treestar Oct 2012 #48
I think President Obama saw Romney standing there in his new populist suit Samantha Oct 2012 #95
I'm sorry, but neither you, Ed, nor Mitt Romney have the president's day job. Just sayin'.... Tarheel_Dem Oct 2012 #115
He should have dropped it by now but it's personal flamingdem Oct 2012 #7
now that he can't back down Whisp Oct 2012 #66
maybe we should write to him about his flamingdem Oct 2012 #84
or start a ShitHead Ed twitter thing. Whisp Oct 2012 #90
he's just doing exactly what the rest of the media is doing..... spanone Oct 2012 #8
Stop Watching Him... Blue Idaho Oct 2012 #9
Watch Elliot Spitzer on Current TV instead julian09 Oct 2012 #51
Turn that shit off. Doing more for Romney than Fox. Nt DevonRex Oct 2012 #10
No mention of Romney's lies during the debate AT ALL while talking with Joan Walsh and Eugen Robinso meadowlark5 Oct 2012 #11
He has talked about Romneys lies. I would like to point out to you that the still_one Oct 2012 #12
The next debate for the President is important. bluestate10 Oct 2012 #65
Yes, but all the debates including the VP debate will be important /nt still_one Oct 2012 #116
Eds job is not to make Obama look good. That is Obama's job. Do you want MSNBC to lie? Logical Oct 2012 #15
Ed's Job Is Not To Make Rmoney Look Good Either..... global1 Oct 2012 #20
Neither is it to beat him to a pulp DevonRex Oct 2012 #25
LOL, the DU is a funny place. We Love Ed, We hate Ed. We love Jon, We hate Jon, Silly. Logical Oct 2012 #38
Really, on this site you are only as good as your last game (or breath, for that matter). DollarBillHines Oct 2012 #57
I agree with you. hrmjustin Oct 2012 #78
LOL nt Logical Oct 2012 #97
I watched the whole show tonight, and have a different take We People Oct 2012 #59
Well, listen to his end of show commentary. earthside Oct 2012 #49
Yeah last week. People turned Ed off when he tried DevonRex Oct 2012 #52
Excellent point! cheriemedium59 Oct 2012 #45
Yeah if you like Thursday's news regurgitated on Tuesday. Nt DevonRex Oct 2012 #53
You are right treestar Oct 2012 #47
I've been saying this since debate night. timlot Oct 2012 #18
Nobody is watching Ed except for us and a few trolls. We're going to vote for Obama, the gateley Oct 2012 #21
Well stated, gateley DollarBillHines Oct 2012 #87
"I can turn it off." I think that's exactly what most of us have done. Your point? Tarheel_Dem Oct 2012 #118
Was I making a point? I thought I was just expressing my opinion which I know nobody cares gateley Oct 2012 #123
I don't want MSNBC to lie meadowlark5 Oct 2012 #22
Or... He Thinks He's Helping To Send A GOTV Alert... WillyT Oct 2012 #23
No way in hell you really think that. DevonRex Oct 2012 #29
LOL !!! WillyT Oct 2012 #80
Spitzer has been the same way Warpy Oct 2012 #24
and they let Romney get away with all kinds of lieing shit. Whisp Oct 2012 #69
LOL!!! Sebass1271 Oct 2012 #75
The good news about Spitzer is that only you & a handful of people heard it. Tarheel_Dem Oct 2012 #119
He and the other backstabber pundits are trying to evade guilt. gulliver Oct 2012 #27
And they've been failing at it for 3 years treestar Oct 2012 #44
Ed has been focusing on Romney's lies, but I agree with everything else you said. Jamaal510 Oct 2012 #30
He did the same in 2004 with John Kerry. Island Blue Oct 2012 #32
he was bezerk during the Health Care passage too. Whisp Oct 2012 #71
I gave up during the WI recall. Ed telling the POTUS, "he better get to WI", "he better.... Tarheel_Dem Oct 2012 #121
Agree With Those Who Are Ignoring Him Bigredhunk Oct 2012 #33
obama was acomplete disaster another performance like that and we will have pres romney bowens43 Oct 2012 #39
on what planet, Kolob? Whisp Oct 2012 #73
I have to say I have been disappointed in Ed since the debates too.. cheriemedium59 Oct 2012 #40
+1 n/t southern_belle Oct 2012 #43
Keep in mind, Obama has two more debates remaining. fearnobush Oct 2012 #41
You are absolutely right. I never thought of it this way. cheriemedium59 Oct 2012 #50
it's the last debate that will be mostly remembered and relevant to election day. Whisp Oct 2012 #76
I'm starting to see these pundits as part of the media that carries water treestar Oct 2012 #42
Yep. Otherwise there might've DevonRex Oct 2012 #55
I stood 6 hours Berserker Oct 2012 #58
UC Berkeley Language professor offers an answer to your "Why?" patrice Oct 2012 #88
That's why people call him "Special Ed" slackmaster Oct 2012 #63
??? We People Oct 2012 #74
Ed has a right to his opinion. "Shut your trap and get on the bandwagon" really? rustydog Oct 2012 #64
unfortunately Ed's negativity does a lot more harm Whisp Oct 2012 #83
I stopped watching Ed a long time ago. NCLefty Oct 2012 #70
An instigator of the handwringing. CakeGrrl Oct 2012 #79
They're bidding for their audience share with the Right come an Obama win. They'll be seen as patrice Oct 2012 #92
I agree ed is over the top sometimes but he had a point that the president needs to get himself... hrmjustin Oct 2012 #81
yup i heard the same shit on a progressive radio show today... madrchsod Oct 2012 #82
Tweetie is the one who is frothing at the mouth. Yeah Big Ed got freaked out at first Raine Oct 2012 #86
Not an Ed fan here, but then I'm a Liberal. Ed is not a Liberal & he's only near the Left where it patrice Oct 2012 #91
Shut your piehole ed. lonestarnot Oct 2012 #94
bingo flamingdem Oct 2012 #99
Tell Obama to start doing his job brentspeak Oct 2012 #113
You mean like pointing out pigliCON obstruction to the improving economy? lonestarnot Oct 2012 #135
Mike Malloy called Ed out years ago! B Calm Oct 2012 #100
Remember when Air America went down? Astazia Oct 2012 #106
Only Al Sharpton & Joy Ann Reid had Obama's back debate night on MSNBC graham4anything Oct 2012 #102
I have no idea how Rachel reacted that night. Whisp Oct 2012 #104
It was exactly THAT. Indpndnt Oct 2012 #130
Yeah, both Big Eddie & Andrew Sullivan seriously need to get a grip catbyte Oct 2012 #105
Jesus, this thread reads like a gossip circle of cackling hens. randome Oct 2012 #108
Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #109
On your first post even… MrScorpio Oct 2012 #125
Yep he passed pissing me off several days ago. Kalidurga Oct 2012 #110
TURN. HIM. OFF!!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2012 #111
It's not Ed Schultz' fault Obama made himself look like a zombie brentspeak Oct 2012 #112
no, Obama didn't look insane. Whisp Oct 2012 #117
Ed is like a dog that is going hungry because he can't put down the dry bone he has in his mouth. grantcart Oct 2012 #120
Ed's job is not to make you happy but report news nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #122
He can be a boring asshole...I take him in very small doses when I'm in the mood...Lately, I haven't Rowdyboy Oct 2012 #124
So don't fucking listen to him Marrah_G Oct 2012 #126
TURN OFF THE TV bigwillq Oct 2012 #127
The takeaway point is to mobilize BainsBane Oct 2012 #128
The MSMedia is propaganda, they don't care about anything but emotional outbursts just1voice Oct 2012 #131
"Why isn't he exposing Rmoney's Lies?" Iggy Oct 2012 #132
Ed, a former Republican, is just doing his job _ed_ Oct 2012 #133
I changed the channel after the first five minutes of his show. rainlillie Oct 2012 #134
He HAS talked about all those things you say you want him to. That's WHY he got so angry Honeycombe8 Oct 2012 #136

liberalmike27

(2,479 posts)
129. Posted This Below
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 02:24 AM
Oct 2012

I've been making the points for nearly a decade now that 1.) there is no liberal media and 2.) Democrats want to be fair, Republicans want to win, so Republicans end up winning, and staying in office.

Also lately I've put forward the idea that if you judge on substance, truth, honesty, and detracted for dishonesty, flipping of positions, and deceit, Obama won.

Cenk Uygur tonight on his Current show demonstrated both of them for me, that is if you've not figured out yet that there is no real liberal television media. He talked about how right-wing television supported their candidates no matter what, even when their candidates lost. Then he talked about how Democratic television was trying to be honest, so they said Obama lost, which was exactly like right-wing television.

So, if we actually had left-wing media, we would've seen them defend Obama both on truth, lack of lies and deceit, and substance, the winner, admitting perhaps that he appeared a bit tired, but that is to be expected, campaigning constantly and running the country too.

The supposed "liberal media" though did neither. They treated Obama like a red-headed stepchild, as if he was the worst, and probably make Akin feel a whole lot better. Cenk talking about the left "wanting to be honest" proved my other point. While Democrats putter around with their honesty, and fairness, and resign at the drop of the hat, Republicans drive through the pain, they put up with the scandal, they support their own candidates for the most part. Rarely do they attack them, unless they are just plain being stupid.

It isn't something I had to have proved to me again. I said as the season progressed, and Obama picked up a big lead, that they would be doing back-flips, making things up, flip-flopping and not being called on it like a "Kerry" to try to get it close. This debate was chosen to be "the Dean Scream" of this campaign. I said it on the morning of the debate, "It doesn't matter what Obama says or does, he is going to be declared the loser. Once again, we see that our media isn't "left/right" as it has portrayed itself, but a corporate entity, only interested in the goals and ambitions of corporations. Certainly MSNBC and Current are left of FOX--but what isn't? With the exception of Rush and a few complete nuts like Glen Beck, everything on television is left of FOX. But clearly it's not Democratic, and nowhere near liberal.

Just know who you're listening to, and don't be conned into thinking millions' a year paid talking-heads are on your side. They aren't. They are on the side of evening it up, to try to get more viewers to pay attention to their rants and attacks on Obama.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
16. Ed is a hard left liberal. Ed is just voicing the disappointment that avid Obama supporter
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 08:21 PM
Oct 2012

like me felt after that debate. I am baffled, I am at a lost to explain why President Obama was so good at rallies leading up to the debate, but so seemingly disinterested during the debate.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
62. I am baffled as to why Eddie and his Bird friend went all crazy
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 09:19 PM
Oct 2012

slammng Obama when it is so close to a so very important election.

they went nuts with the overkill on subject.

with friends like that, who needs enemas.

rurallib

(62,431 posts)
96. been listening to Schultz for a long time and have watched his transformation
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 10:09 PM
Oct 2012

I will guarantee he is no Republican any longer.
If he has a fault it is that he cares too much. He now really feels the pain people go through. As an old jock, he wants to win badly and will give it all for his team.
So what you see is a guy wanting to win, pushing for his teammate to give a little extra to win

livetohike

(22,147 posts)
19. Definitely - he can go. I remember when his radio show was first streamin
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 08:25 PM
Oct 2012

and he said he was a Republican, but his wife influenced him to become a Democrat. He's showing his true colors now.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,235 posts)
28. Randi Rhodes said early on that he was a Rush wannabe, who couldn't break through in RW radio.
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 08:38 PM
Oct 2012

He switched for $$$$$$. He dreams of being as big as Rush & O'Reilly, and have that kind of influence, where he can command millions of braindead people to do his bidding, and make a helluva lot of dough in the process, but it'll never happen. The left just isn't like that.

livetohike

(22,147 posts)
36. Yeah, I remember Randi saying that years ago, too
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 08:46 PM
Oct 2012

I can see that. He would probably be just as comfortable over at Fox.

livetohike

(22,147 posts)
34. I expected more from Tweety....but his performance
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 08:44 PM
Oct 2012

after the debate was anything but intelligent. Just another corporate shill, doing as expected. I haven't watched him either. I think I am most disappointed in him. With Ed, I never was a huge fan, although I used to stream his radio show in the early days.

livetohike

(22,147 posts)
68. Well, I don't like Elliot Spitzer. So that is the 8:00 PM EST slot
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 09:30 PM
Oct 2012

I watch Cenk and Jennifer Granholm .

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
89. No thank you, they fired Keith Olbermann and that is why his commentary is absent during this
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 09:55 PM
Oct 2012

election. That is unforgivable, at least to me. Spitzer is not a substitute for Olbermann.

Sam

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
60. me too. can't stand to see/hear them any more.
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 09:17 PM
Oct 2012

I might get over it but for now they are dead to me.

I didn't mind that they had critical things to say about the debate - but omfg they went stupid ballistic and ignored the piss poor awful job Romney did and just hammered on Obama.

amateur assholes.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,235 posts)
114. They fed the Fox News trolls, and that's unforgiveable. Screw 'em. I can't even bear to....
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 12:01 AM
Oct 2012

watch Tweety's commercials on the two shows I still watch. Thank goodness for DVR.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
13. You are also incorrect - w/o the MSM cheerleading romney wouldn't be gaining
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 08:19 PM
Oct 2012

momentum, it's not just the debate, it's the man behind the curtain where corporate interests and Wall St are concerned.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
6. Ed is right. President Obama could have delivered a knockout punch.
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 08:17 PM
Oct 2012

Now the race is getting tight toward uncertainty, President Obama's base is hopeful but demoralized. We are left hoping for a strong debate from a guy that is prone to gaffes. THis is not a good place to be, but we must remain resolute.

DollarBillHines

(1,922 posts)
54. Yeah, kinda like the Nazi thing...
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 09:11 PM
Oct 2012

"Yesterday's news" could also be called "History".

Ed then went on to call the Liar just that - a liar.

DollarBillHines

(1,922 posts)
61. What's a Godwin?
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 09:18 PM
Oct 2012

I am simply saying that we should not automatically dismiss yesterday's news.

I have two dozen Obama/Biden signs on two miles of fence on my property. I have also met the max on my personal contributions to the campaign.

You?

What's a Godwin?

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
72. Haven't maxed on money but as usual
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 09:32 PM
Oct 2012

I'm overdoing it with volunteering. I'll have to stop soon or my health will pay. Immune deficient so can't stick around once the seasonal bugs start going around.

Godwin's Law is the first person who brings up Hitler automatically loses the argument. This is the first time I didn't have to ask somebody the guy's name so it made me happy. Silly I know. We get joy from silly things sometimes.

Obama is a low key debater. Always has been. Somebody found the debate style that Romney used and there's not much defense against it from what I gathered.

We shall see what team Obama comes up with. I doubt Romney will use it again. How many times can he change every single position he has without people chasing him with pitchforks?

DollarBillHines

(1,922 posts)
85. Thanks, I'll remember that.
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 09:51 PM
Oct 2012

I probably could have used a better example (Hitler, I mean.).

The last few years have been financially disastrous for me, but when Citizens United was shoved thru I sold two of my farm trucks in order to donate to the Obama campaign. This act has proven to be quite a speed-bump, but just last night I told my partner that I would do it again if it would help.

She looked at me, aghast, and shouted, "We only have two f*****g trucks left!"

I tried to explain that I only said I would do it again, but she was too far gone - climbing the walls.

On the plus side, our grape yield is up 30+% this Harvest.

Regarding romney's lies, did you see this?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251128664

Take care of yourself, volunteering can sap you. Get inside and stay warm when the season hits.
DBH

PS I have been hanging around (lurking?) this site for a while and I always enjoy seeing your posts.
DBH

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
98. I answered you there so as
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 10:16 PM
Oct 2012

not to get this thread off topic. But it looks really interesting. Right up my alley actually. Thank you. Glad to meet you.


OldDem2012

(3,526 posts)
37. I don't know anyone who is "demoralized" except for some select whining media ...
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 08:48 PM
Oct 2012

...along with you and a few others on this board who have opted for curling up on the floor naked in the fetal position while crying and lying in a pool of excrement.

Fathead Ed is full of crap.

Get a grip and get back in the game.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
48. This expectation is too much
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 09:01 PM
Oct 2012

There is no such thing as a knockout punch in an election.

It's not going to be decided until Election Day. We can't expect some event to happen that can reassure us of that.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
95. I think President Obama saw Romney standing there in his new populist suit
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 10:07 PM
Oct 2012

and knew immediately he could not refute Romney's about-face on several issues plus address a viewing audience with whom he would never have another chance to address on the issues: Republicans. President Obama knew the fact-checkers would hound Romney's debut of his etch-a-sketch performance and correct the public's impression on Romney's performance. So he chose to take advantage of his two minutes to address the audience, knowing the other problem would be addressed in the ensuing days.

I personally think it was smart, strategic decision, and I do not consider Romney the winner of the debate. He is the winner of performance art, but that doesn't count.

So Ed was looking for a gladiator fight, and he is ticked he did not get one. Oh, well, it was Obama's decision to make, and I agree with it.

Sam

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
7. He should have dropped it by now but it's personal
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 08:17 PM
Oct 2012

because he was over the top before he still wants to be "right" for his credibility.

So what does he achieve? Difficult to say if he is demoralizing or indirectly energizing the base.

He wants Obama or the team to focus on the 47% comments among other things

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
66. now that he can't back down
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 09:23 PM
Oct 2012

because saving face for him is probably more important than the election..

just watch, he will crit Obama and Biden on the future debates no matter how well they do, just so he is 'right'.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
84. maybe we should write to him about his
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 09:51 PM
Oct 2012

wonder if he'd read it .. might be worth trying to get through to him

spanone

(135,851 posts)
8. he's just doing exactly what the rest of the media is doing.....
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 08:17 PM
Oct 2012

swaying the polls to the romney camp

meadowlark5

(2,795 posts)
11. No mention of Romney's lies during the debate AT ALL while talking with Joan Walsh and Eugen Robinso
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 08:18 PM
Oct 2012

Joan Walsh was talking about how moderate and likeable Romeny was during the debate. Ed was talking about how horrible Obama was and how Romney's campaign has all the basics down. Good fucking grief! You are absolutely right. Ed, who is usually yelling at his audience to support this president, sure has abandoned his own order. That whole piece with Robinson and Walsh was a piece of shit. And I would have really liked to slap Joan Walsh. Stupid twit. Not once did any of the 3 say, "even though he lied the entire debate" :

still_one

(92,273 posts)
12. He has talked about Romneys lies. I would like to point out to you that the
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 08:19 PM
Oct 2012

Whole msm is dwelling on the 1st debate

It will make the subsequent debates even more important, and in the short retention of the public the first debate will soon be forgotten

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
65. The next debate for the President is important.
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 09:22 PM
Oct 2012

After the unemployment rate and jobs numbers from Friday, Romney is cornered and he knows it. Romney's debate performance got blunted by the UE and jobs news. As more people soak in the UE and jobs news, Romney will have more problems because voters start seeing a path forward with Obama. Romney's dilemma is exactly why President Obama must come out swinging, the President can't ignore any Romney lie like the President did for too many during the first debate.

global1

(25,253 posts)
20. Ed's Job Is Not To Make Rmoney Look Good Either.....
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 08:25 PM
Oct 2012

but that's exactly what he is doing today.

Lawrence O'Donnell is the guy that I like to watch on MSNBC followed closely by Rachel Maddow and then - yes you heard it from me - Chris Matthews.

I've had it with Shultz. I stopped listening to his radio show and I guess I'll have to stop watching him now too.

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
25. Neither is it to beat him to a pulp
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 08:36 PM
Oct 2012

day in, day out over the SAME GODDAMNED EVENT. Over and over and over and over and over. By now he could have had it translated into 50 languages and had anthropologists from each culture dissect the body language frame by fucking frame.

DollarBillHines

(1,922 posts)
57. Really, on this site you are only as good as your last game (or breath, for that matter).
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 09:15 PM
Oct 2012

Simply do a search on any talking head (except Faux) on this site and you will experience instant vertigo.

We People

(619 posts)
59. I watched the whole show tonight, and have a different take
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 09:16 PM
Oct 2012

He's been very subdued ever since the his meltdown the night of the first debate. I think he got the message that he was too emotional and that he's trying to pace himself. I didn't notice him being "pro-Romney" yesterday or the day before, or maybe I'm not listening for Obama put-downs.

I thought his show was good.

In his time slot, what reliable alternatives do we have on TV? Does anyone listen to his radio show? Sometimes I have the chance to, and he is supportive of Democratic candidates and values.

As one with a stake in public education, I'm forever grateful to Ed Schultz for being the first of the MSNBC anchors for stepping out on a limb to be supportive of teachers and other govt employees who are getting the shaft with Republican state governors and legislators. Especially since Obama's support of education accomodates Republican ideas WAY too much, thanks to the selection of Arne Duncan to his cabinet.

I'm taking the long view of Ed and his show, and he has much more to offer than he has ever taken away from us. I'm glad he has been on our side, and I see no signs that he is betraying us.

earthside

(6,960 posts)
49. Well, listen to his end of show commentary.
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 09:01 PM
Oct 2012

He's taking Rmoney apart.

You can bury your head in the sand and deny that Pres Obama did a lousy job last week.

Or you can deal with the truth and get busy.

Ed is just telling it like it is.

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
52. Yeah last week. People turned Ed off when he tried
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 09:08 PM
Oct 2012

it for the third time. He needs to get HIS lazy ass in gear and get some new material. Old news is today's garbage. This old news was thursday's garbage.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
47. You are right
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 08:58 PM
Oct 2012

Ed's job is to make Obama look as bad as possible in order to help Rmoney and let the Republicans point to these pretend liberals and say "even the liberals think the Democrats are failures."

But his job is certainly not honest, neutral political analysis.

 

timlot

(456 posts)
18. I've been saying this since debate night.
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 08:22 PM
Oct 2012

The so called "liberal media" has done more to hurt Obama then FoxNews and Romney could ever dream. Yes the President didn't do as well as he should have in the debate, but they have blow it wayyy out of proportion. I truly believe most people who made up their mind to vote for the president aren't going to change that, but there is a percentage of the population that likes to vote for who the winning team. If the media convinces them Romney is ahead that mind share will be difficult to overcome.

gateley

(62,683 posts)
21. Nobody is watching Ed except for us and a few trolls. We're going to vote for Obama, the
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 08:25 PM
Oct 2012

trolls were never going to.

He's not doing anything that will "harm Obama".

I'd rather see an opinion I don't share than everyone marching in lockstep as the Fox drones do. If it upsets me too much, I can turn it off.

gateley

(62,683 posts)
123. Was I making a point? I thought I was just expressing my opinion which I know nobody cares
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 01:25 AM
Oct 2012

about -- isn't that what we all do here?

meadowlark5

(2,795 posts)
22. I don't want MSNBC to lie
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 08:26 PM
Oct 2012

But stop fluffing up Romney, Ed. We have every other single network doing that. Ed knows Romney lied excessively yet Ed keeps talking about how wonderful Romney was and how fantastic Romney's team is. WTF? So you might think that by continually making those statements in his radio show and tv program isn't helping anyone but Romney. Maybe Big Eddie wants Romney to win. It sure would make his job more secure attacking Romney for 4 years.

 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
23. Or... He Thinks He's Helping To Send A GOTV Alert...
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 08:33 PM
Oct 2012

IOW... DO NOT RELAX... GOTV !!!

And probably attracting more viewers...

And publicly prodding the President not to miss his final two opportunities.

Whether it's necessary for that second option... is business, and that third option... is doubtful.


DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
29. No way in hell you really think that.
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 08:39 PM
Oct 2012

Unless....

His evil plan is to force us all from our television sets and out into the streets where we will magically put on happy faces instead of these grumpy Ed-watching faces and recruit new Obama voters with our sheer charisma and joy???

Nah...

Warpy

(111,292 posts)
24. Spitzer has been the same way
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 08:35 PM
Oct 2012

I've just tuned in long enough to hear him hammering away at Obama's "poor" performance and switched off.

I have no idea why so many of them seem to be doing this shit. I just know I'm not bothering with it.

Poor performance, my ass. He wiped the floor with Romney, Romney only won "asshole of the night."

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
69. and they let Romney get away with all kinds of lieing shit.
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 09:30 PM
Oct 2012

and talk about his 'presence' and 'passion' and 'animation'! Oh, he's got his fire back! What a man! Look at his pole rise! Obama better watch out, we gotta contender here, yessiree!

i want to fucking barf.

Eliot can go fuck himself too.

gulliver

(13,186 posts)
27. He and the other backstabber pundits are trying to evade guilt.
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 08:38 PM
Oct 2012

95% of the true election damage is squarely the fault of our sides' pundits, bloggers, and netroots. They failed to echo all of the good things Obama said. They failed to kneecap Romney for his lies, his sweaty upper lip, his whininess, and his teary eyes.

They failed miserably, not Obama. Now they have to blame him more and more vociferously to keep the finger of blame pointing away from themselves.



treestar

(82,383 posts)
44. And they've been failing at it for 3 years
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 08:56 PM
Oct 2012

at least. They've been moaning and pissing for three years. If President Obama was ahead in the polls it was in spite of them.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
30. Ed has been focusing on Romney's lies, but I agree with everything else you said.
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 08:40 PM
Oct 2012

Sure, Obama wasn't at his best. But nobody ever likes to mention the fact that he didn't say anything controversial or crazy last week, like Romney did when he mentioned cutting funding to PBS and how he told 27 lies in 38 minutes at one point. Apparently according to American media, a person cannot win a debate if they just play it safe and tell the truth.

Island Blue

(5,819 posts)
32. He did the same in 2004 with John Kerry.
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 08:42 PM
Oct 2012

Not in regards to the debates, just in general toward the end of the campaign. Haven't watched or listened to him since that time.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
71. he was bezerk during the Health Care passage too.
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 09:32 PM
Oct 2012

iirc.
I didn't watch him then, just stuff here posted from youtube.

but same sort of stuff - raging actorholic.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,235 posts)
121. I gave up during the WI recall. Ed telling the POTUS, "he better get to WI", "he better....
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 12:17 AM
Oct 2012

say this or that", and "he better do blah blah blah". Ed jumped into a fight, and when he saw the chance he was on the losing side, he thought the president should save his bacon. I don't know why, because Ed tends to blame the president for everything. Who the hell is he to issue directives to this president?

Bigredhunk

(1,351 posts)
33. Agree With Those Who Are Ignoring Him
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 08:44 PM
Oct 2012

One of my friends is a doom & gloom'er (w/respect to EVERYTHING). I'm not. So when there's "bad news" I avoid the sensationalist crap like the plague. I haven't been going on HP at all (and it's my home page). Not watching Ed at all. I'm not contributing to the "sky is falling"/horse race crap. I'm not sticking my head in the sand. I'm just not giving in to panic.

I'm upbeat (would you rather your guy had a 70% shot or a 30% shot??).

 

bowens43

(16,064 posts)
39. obama was acomplete disaster another performance like that and we will have pres romney
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 08:52 PM
Oct 2012

The lies are irrelevent. What is being said by either candidte will be quickly forgotten. What won't be forgotten is how it was said. Romney appeared confident and stiong Obama looked weak and confused

cheriemedium59

(212 posts)
40. I have to say I have been disappointed in Ed since the debates too..
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 08:53 PM
Oct 2012

I am surprised he is still hanging on so long to his anger. I understand he fights
for Obama and the middle class every night and feels let down by the President
and his not so stellar performance the other night. But I still like Ed, and I
know he is in our corner. It was extremely frustrating to see Obama not challenge
Mittens during that debate. I have never ever seen him so compliant and
detached. Hopefully this is a huge wake up call. I am afraid if his 2nd debate
is another poor performance he could lose even more support. It is just sad..

fearnobush

(3,960 posts)
41. Keep in mind, Obama has two more debates remaining.
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 08:53 PM
Oct 2012

If there is anything positive about this media train wreck it doing wonders to lower the media's debate expectations for Obama. One thing is for sure, Obama sucked last week. He failed in so many ways. But the reality is even if he did good, he still would have lost ground. The challenger almost always wins the first debate. Barack can do a lot better with less expectation than before.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
76. it's the last debate that will be mostly remembered and relevant to election day.
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 09:38 PM
Oct 2012

I did't think Obama did bad at all - it's just that Romney did so good - at lieing his fucking face off. I think everyone was taken aback by that.

anyway, Obama will prevail. I have every confidence because we've been down this gloom road so many times - so many times people have threatened to give up on him, but he prevails. even under all that pressure he gets from his opponents and from his side, he still ends up the smart one. every single time.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
42. I'm starting to see these pundits as part of the media that carries water
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 08:55 PM
Oct 2012

for Republicans.

They just do it in a twisted way.

Haven't he and Rachel been moaning for the past 3 years? Nothing President Obama or the 111th Congress did was good enough for them. Nothing the 112th Congress did or blocked was ever their fault.

 

Berserker

(3,419 posts)
58. I stood 6 hours
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 09:16 PM
Oct 2012

on asphalt that next day in Madison Wisconsin after the debate to listen to my president speak. I am not a young man and it kicked my ass. But I believe in Obama and I know Big Eddie does also. He was disappointed in the way Obama handled the debate as well as I was how about you?
We all know Obama could have destroyed romney but he chose not to. Why?
And you blame Big Eddie? Lighten the fuck up let's see in the next debate what happens.

rustydog

(9,186 posts)
64. Ed has a right to his opinion. "Shut your trap and get on the bandwagon" really?
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 09:22 PM
Oct 2012

Obama did ok at the debate, I think Romney controlled it with his rudeness, but he controlled it.
Ed has every right to say Obama did bad as you have every right to say: "Shut your trap.."

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
83. unfortunately Ed's negativity does a lot more harm
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 09:49 PM
Oct 2012

to the prospects of an election win than a DUer telling that fucker to shut his trap.

CakeGrrl

(10,611 posts)
79. An instigator of the handwringing.
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 09:46 PM
Oct 2012

What is the GAIN in watching these pundits when it's known they're on the corporate payroll?

Their bosses want a horse race, so they do their part.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
92. They're bidding for their audience share with the Right come an Obama win. They'll be seen as
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 09:59 PM
Oct 2012

the legit & courageous critics.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
81. I agree ed is over the top sometimes but he had a point that the president needs to get himself...
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 09:48 PM
Oct 2012

... into gear in the debates

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
82. yup i heard the same shit on a progressive radio show today...
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 09:49 PM
Oct 2012

i hit the cd switch on the car`s media center

Raine

(30,540 posts)
86. Tweetie is the one who is frothing at the mouth. Yeah Big Ed got freaked out at first
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 09:53 PM
Oct 2012

thanks to Tweetie but so did Rachel. Tweetie is the one I can't stand.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
91. Not an Ed fan here, but then I'm a Liberal. Ed is not a Liberal & he's only near the Left where it
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 09:57 PM
Oct 2012

intersects Populism.

Astazia

(262 posts)
106. Remember when Air America went down?
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 10:56 PM
Oct 2012

I turned on my radio one day later and Randi was gone & Ed was there. Disappointed isn't even close to how I felt. Who wad this guy?

That was then...& even though I know he is a champion for labor...he needs to deflate that fat head of his & remember it it's better to shut up & be thought a fool, than to speak & remove all doubt! He is not helping! I didn't know he was a repukelican, but it makes sense of late. Enough already Ed! STFU already!

(Love Mike Malloy)

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
102. Only Al Sharpton & Joy Ann Reid had Obama's back debate night on MSNBC
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 10:47 PM
Oct 2012

I am forever disappointed in Ed and Rachel
the others I know are not Obama fans

and remember- MSNBC at end of day is owned by the same corporation billionaires
they are not independent thought at all.

and remember parent NBC does their polls with Rupert Murdoch's Wall Street Journal (WSJ)

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
104. I have no idea how Rachel reacted that night.
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 10:50 PM
Oct 2012

I was hoping it wasn't like... you know, THAT. I turned it off when I saw Ed's face go Pantone 185.

that sure is disappointing.

Indpndnt

(2,391 posts)
130. It was exactly THAT.
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 02:34 AM
Oct 2012

Just not in the over-the-top OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG! way that Tweety and Ed went off. They were practically airborne in their fury. Rachel was very, very, very disappointed and vocal (as always) about it. Sharpton, Chris Hayes, and O'Donnell (later) were all calm and rational, so it was a very achievable state that night, all evidence to the contrary.

Somebody needs to remind the media that, if they could do what the President does every day, they'd be doing it and not just yammering about it for money.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
108. Jesus, this thread reads like a gossip circle of cackling hens.
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 11:03 PM
Oct 2012

Stop watching so much goddamned TV in the first place!

Response to global1 (Original post)

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
110. Yep he passed pissing me off several days ago.
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 11:08 PM
Oct 2012

I got over it for a minute. I figured he was shocked by Obama's debate performance. I wasn't I expected a lot more and I wasn't sure what Romney would show up. I really didn't expect the Robin Williams version, so I figured no one else expected that either. It's hard prepping to debate The 3 Faces of Eve. But, now it's a week later and Ed is still foaming at the mouth. I can't wait til the next big thing so Ed can refocus his anger somewhere else.

brentspeak

(18,290 posts)
112. It's not Ed Schultz' fault Obama made himself look like a zombie
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 11:53 PM
Oct 2012

I would be more pissed off at Obama than I would at Ed Schultz, who simply pointed out how Obama managed to shoot his own campaign in the foot.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
117. no, Obama didn't look insane.
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 12:09 AM
Oct 2012

he was himself.

if he was wild eyed and flailing and flushing and lieing and zipped up on some drugs like Mitt, yah, he coulda won it.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
120. Ed is like a dog that is going hungry because he can't put down the dry bone he has in his mouth.
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 12:17 AM
Oct 2012

Ed is not very sophisticated and his background is somewhat narrow. He lacks a basic understanding of the things he gets into a rant about. Remember those ads with him walking around stacked containers? He aggressively pronounced that they were just waiting to get filled with American goods. No trailer has ever waited anywhere to be filled on the weaker route. Container traffic is always determined by the strong demand side. Either he doesn't understand this simple point or he doesn't care what he says when he is on a polemical rant.

Maddow and O'Donnell are much more professional, for that matter so is Sharpton.
 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
122. Ed's job is not to make you happy but report news
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 01:13 AM
Oct 2012

are polls getting tighter? yes.

was a dismal performance, yup.

is this a state of the facts right now? yes.

will it change? Does the sun rise in the East?

Rowdyboy

(22,057 posts)
124. He can be a boring asshole...I take him in very small doses when I'm in the mood...Lately, I haven't
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 01:27 AM
Oct 2012

been in the mood.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
127. TURN OFF THE TV
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 02:00 AM
Oct 2012

Seriously. Don't watch if he pisses you off this much. Really. Is anyone forcing you to watch? I don't think so.

BainsBane

(53,035 posts)
128. The takeaway point is to mobilize
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 02:22 AM
Oct 2012

Volunteer, get out the vote. If we all do our part, it will go a long way. Voter turnout is everything. Obama leads in all registered voter polls. It's likely voter models where he falls short. We have to turn those registered voters into actual voters. Call your local Obama office and volunteer.

 

just1voice

(1,362 posts)
131. The MSMedia is propaganda, they don't care about anything but emotional outbursts
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 04:06 AM
Oct 2012

Replace "propaganda" with any MSMedia station like MSNBC, they fit the definition perfectly:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda

"Propaganda is a form of communication that is aimed at influencing the attitude of a community toward some cause or position by presenting only one side of an argument. Propaganda is usually repeated and dispersed over a wide variety of media in order to create the chosen result in audience attitudes.

As opposed to impartially providing information, propaganda, in its most basic sense, presents information primarily to influence an audience. Propaganda often presents facts selectively (thus possibly lying by omission) to encourage a particular synthesis, or uses loaded messages to produce an emotional rather than rational response to the information presented. The desired result is a change of the attitude toward the subject in the target audience to further a political or religious agenda."

 

Iggy

(1,418 posts)
132. "Why isn't he exposing Rmoney's Lies?"
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 06:11 AM
Oct 2012

uhh, maybe because hundreds of other people in MSM are doing so?

and BTW, just what is the purpose of pointing out GOP lies, cheating and stealing? is this
something new? No, there's nothing new here

the notion of many in Bloggo world: "Ohhhh, if only we could get people to see all those
GOP lies, Obama would get millions of new voters and he would surely win!!".. this is nonsense.





_ed_

(1,734 posts)
133. Ed, a former Republican, is just doing his job
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 09:44 AM
Oct 2012

His job is to gin up rating for his corporate news network.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
136. He HAS talked about all those things you say you want him to. That's WHY he got so angry
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 09:51 PM
Oct 2012

with Obama's performance...that Obama did not call out all the lies and flip flopping that Romney was doing. Ed has done countless, repetitive stories on Rmoney's flip flopping, and all sorts of negative things about Rmoney.

I think he overreacted to the debate performance, but he's an emotional person. That's part of his charm and why people watch him. Like Biden. Like Tweety.

He's lightened up on the debate performance...it's fading. Obama's performance WAS baffling and horrible. Who could have predicted it? It was mind boggling. I thought, "What the hell happened?" But...it was a bad night. Not the election.

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