about the "Mann" Coulter jokes

[DonCoquixote]

Look, I hate Ann Coulter like every liberal should. I am against the Death Penalty, but I have to confess if she were executed in some Maoist style fracas, I would NOT shed a tear. I would oppose her being made a martyr, but if there is a Hell, I would expect her THERE.

That being said, we do not need to slam the LGBT to get at her.

Ann is not worth of being called a woman, as she has no compassionate, maternal instincts.

She is not worthy of being a Man, as she lacks the courage to actually fight real opponents face to face.

Let us not insult any gender by insulting her, she is, at best, an "IT."

No one in any gender, or definition or subcategory thereof, should have to be compared to her. There are many Drag Queens that look better than Ann any day of the week, and many leather wearing "Drag Kings" that can act more like a man than any Fox news pundit!

[Andy823]

1. I agree.

I don't even think Coulter is human, more like some kind of fungus, or slim that has mutated from the same pond scum that gave us Rush Limbaugh, Glen Beck, Hanity, etc. None of them should be classified as humans!

[underoath]

79. wow...

[Curtland1015]

2. Yeah, this gets raised every so often...

Calling her looks "manish". I don't get it.

I don't LIKE her one bit. She is, in fact, one of the most disgusting people on the planet.

But I wouldn't say she's ugly... not on the outside anyway.

[Posteritatis]

18. I've seen a few threads w/half the posts hidden over stuff like that. It's embarrassing. (nt)

[Comrade_McKenzie]

3. I'll refrain from doing that on here, but I find nothing wrong with it...

I agree with left-wing policies, but I'm an asshole and my heart doesn't bleed.

[Cleita]

4. I prefer to call her Skank Coulter. n/t

[KamaAina]

5. I am so over that. I just call her Annthrax.

[Liberalynn]

6. "It" works for me

[pansypoo53219]

77. it is probably closer. i found a photo of a woman w/ hypo-gonadism + it reminded me of annthrax.

long limbs, bony. usually they are infertile.

[HERVEPA]

7. I had alerted on it and i was let stand by 3-3 vote

The two that left a comment didn't get it at all, though I provided an explanation.

[DURHAM D]

8. Is this the reason for your post?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=126101

[DonCoquixote]

48. nope

but it fits anyway.

[faith woos science]

9. Let us not insult any gender by insulting her...

Coulter on Sandra Fluke: Her haircut is birth control enough

Sandra Fluke is an "absolute nobody" Joe the Plumber

[MadrasT]

10. Holy gender stereotyping, Batman.

I appreciate what I think you are trying to do here... if it is transphobia that you are trying to address, might I suggest that calling Coulter "it" is also highly transphobic and is not actually an improvement?

The only appropriate way to use gender pronouns is to use the pronouns that the person in question prefers. Coulter identifies as a woman so the correct gender pronoun is "she".

[Behind the Aegis]

13. Thank you!

You weren't kidding with not letting the little stuff slide.

Good on you!

[MadrasT]

14. Gender identity issues are never funny or little to me.

Thx.

[Posteritatis]

37. *facepalm* (nt)

[IDoMath]

17. +1

"we do not need to slam the LGBT to get at her"

... but gender stereotyping is useful? I don't think so.

[littlemissmartypants]

54. Welcome to the DU!

[Posteritatis]

19. Yep. (nt)

[DonCoquixote]

49. considering I was trying to avoid stereotypes

Your comment is noted, though I did say that No gender or subcategory thereof should have to claim her.

[Luminous Animal]

58. Aside from the point made in MadrasT's excellent post. You broadcast 2 gender stereotypes..

1) in order to be a woman, one must be compassionate and maternal.

2) in order to be a man one must be courageous and willing to face an opponent face to face.

Neither one of these are universal truths and are indeed stereotypes of what it means to be a woman or man.

[DonCoquixote]

65. The point was toshow that Ann fit neither

but your point is noted for future reference.

[DonViejo]

56. Thank you, MadrasT

Your comment and guidance are MUCH appreciated.

[bunnies]

67. ^^ this ^^

+ 1000.

[ghostsofgiants]

73. Most important post in this thread right here.

[hrmjustin]

11. good point. These joke may sound funny, but they come at the expense of transgendered people.

[ghostsofgiants]

74. They're not even funny. It's the same tired unimaginative ignorant shit over and over.

[hrmjustin]

75. Agreed!

[hifiguy]

12. Annthrax/Coultergeist has always worked

for me. I still say she's a product of alien bio-engineering by spacemen who have a rather poorly formed concept of human anatomy.

[tavernier]

15. Ah yes, the lady Frankenstein...

I have a feeling that there is a very putrid odor that exudes from her pores, like rotten meat that has been decaying for many years. Sadly it is far too late now to take this ruined carcass and turn it into a human being. Best to send it back to the grave.

[PBass]

16. Lets focus on their bad politics, and not their appearance.

This is a good thread (although you goofed by calling her "It&quot .

Remember when right wingers used to attack Janet Reno for having masculine traits? That was awful too.

Here's another thing... I don't like it when people criticize Chris Christie's weight, either. (I also hate it when the right wing goes after Michael Moore's weight. Lets not stoop to their level.) Democrats are the big-tent party, and we shouldn't alienate people who share our values, by using careless insults.

Lets just go after the important stuff... the conservatives' wrong-headed ideas on the issues.

[Skidmore]

20. Personally, I think we should totally ignore her.

She succeeds when she gets a rise out of the left.

[George II]

35. I'm a left-wing male, and she'll NEVER get a "rise" out of me!

[Aldo Leopold]

21. Whew. I thought you were talking about Mike Mann and assumed

Coulter had said something disparaging about him. Was ready to come out swinging. Never mind.

[dawg]

22. I agree that this is silly.

Looks are irrelevant, it's her ideas that are ugly.

(Not that it matters either way, but she isn't physically unattractive at all.)

[SomeGuyInEagan]

23. Who even talks about Ann Coulter anyway?

Nobody I'd waste time with.

[Posteritatis]

31. And yet here you are, in a thirty-post thread. (nt)

[SomeGuyInEagan]

71. Good point. Bad form on my part. n/t

[Buzz Clik]

24. Did somebody call Coulter "Mann" again? I guess we cycle through this periodically.

As wrong-headed as it is, the insult is aimed at homophobic knuckledraggers who think Coulter is hot.

But, I agree -- it should stop.

[Metro135]

25. Coulter . . .

looks like a praying mantis with blonde hair

[GoneOffShore]

30. I like it.

Not Mann but Mantis Coulter?

[PatrynXX]

26. I have no wish to call that woman names

Laura Ingrham maybe. Ann Coulter. if we keep calling her a man. that keeps proving her right. Laura has no morals. Ann. I find to be about as misguided as Sarah Palin. And tends to get used..

[Kelvin Mace]

28. I try not to hate anyone

Now, I don't like Ann Coulter very much, but she is not worth the damage to my soul to hate her.

Also, I would just as soon see any criticism of Coulter leave her sex out of it. Her being a woman has nothing to do with her idiotic views (other than ironically). Sexist remarks just debase the discourse.

[The Wizard]

29. Aryan Annie

subhuman

[ZombieHorde]

32. I agree and appreciate the heart of your message very much,

but the gender stereotypes are a bit much for me.

Thank you for standing against transphobia.

[seabeyond]

69. love don... appreciate post. no thanks with gender stereotypes, lol.

thanks

[CheapShotArtist]

33. Also calling her "Annorexic Coulter" is a bit below the belt, too.

People here got mad when Gov. Cristie was teased about being overweight. Let's leave those type of remarks for the Reds. I don't think Ann Coulter is ugly for her age, but she's still a pathological liar along with her GOP brethren. They're the ones with the shitty policies that are at odds with the economic interests of 99% of Americans, so there's plenty to attack them on in that regard.

[AAO]

36. You do you realize you just insluted Cousin It? n/t

[HopeHoops]

38. Yes, there's an adam's apple, but I've switched to using "The Coulterbeast".

That's gender-neutral and fits perfectly.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

39. One of the finest people I have ever met online was Maddie at the Mike Malloy Show Forum....

A fierce advocate for the transgendered community who will be greatly missed.

She set everybody straight (pun intended) on the way it works. If someone wants to present themselves as female then you should respect that.

Maddie called in to the Malloy show semi regularly. Her characters included Smegol/Gollum from LOTR and Dubya.

Professionally, she did the voice of Meowth on the Pokemon cartoons.

Which made this even funnier:

Her death was sudden and a tragedy to fans of the show:

[icymist]

43. Thank you for this. I remember Maddy.

A strong voice for the GLBT community is silenced. She is missed.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

45. I preservered her best call ins to the Malloy show....

One of my favorites though is when she called in as herself:

http://server4.whiterosesociety.org/content/malloy/MalloyMemories/Walking_on_the_wild_side.mp3

[icymist]

59. Precious! Thankyou for that.

eom

[Raine]

60. I remember Maddy, I was one of the people

she set straight several years back. It was just thoughtlessness on my part. Sometimes a person just doesn't use their head and repeats things with no malice but because you think it's funny or clever. Once she told me how she felt I understood and have never used "man" in reference to Coulter again. R-I-P Maddy

[Spitfire of ATJ]

64. She had such a unique perspective having been born intersexed and living first as a man....

....and then a woman. I'm telling you, her life needs to be considered for a movie.

Check out this powerful video starring Maddie posted by her girlfriend after she died:

[Raine]

66. THANKS for posting that. Maddy was a valuable

voice gone too soon. I know I'll never forget her.

[zellie]

41. Good point

Our hatred doesn't do justice to the LGBT community,

And I support the LGBTQQIP community,

[DevonRex]

42. NO MORE HURTFUL JOKES.

No more transphobia or homophobia. No more racism. No more misogyny. No more misandry. No more fat jokes or skinny jokes. No more jokes about people who were born challenged in some way, whether it is mentally or physically.

And mental illness is no joke. Alcoholism and drug addiction are diseases, people. If you don't have them just be thankful instead of unloading scorn on those who do.

That's my 2 cents.

[WinkyDink]

46. So you plan to eradicate what has been human nature for millennia? PEOPLE MOCK OTHER PEOPLE.

[LanternWaste]

76. Less "human nature" and more "learned behavior".

Less "human nature" and more "learned behavior".

But I imagine we all at one time or another rationalize our vulgarity against others to make it more palatable when we engage in it.

[rhett o rick]

44. I disagree with hating Ms. Coulter. I also strongly disagree in efforts to disparge her via her

gender. I think hatred damages the hater. I try not to hate, but I make exceptions for people like Dick Cheney. I am not proud of that weakness.

[tblue]

47. Calling her 'It' is an insult to every 'It.' By that logic, you just insulted my dog!

TAKE IT BACK! APOLOGIZE!

So maybe she's a skank! (oops, I'm sorry skanks!) Or a witch! (dang, sorry, witches!)

[gauguin57]

50. I finally realized Ann Coulter is completely irredeemable ...

... when she sent that recent Tweet about the "retarded vote."

Whatever she is, she's disgusting and beyond redemption.

I'm not going to insult transgendered people by implying something about Ann's gender ... because what she is is subhuman. Sub. Human.

She's got one of the blackest souls of any of the black-souled creeps on Fox and right-wing radio.

[tblue]

51. I did it! I am very sorry. I meant no disrespect to anyone.

except Ann Coulter. Please forgive me. Thanks for letting me know, DonCoquixote! The last think I would every do is intentionally hurt another person to get back at Ann Coulter. Oy!

You may all beat me now. I am not worthy.

[DonCoquixote]

52. One thing

my quote about Drag Queens and Kings was meant to show that people who seem to be one stereotype can disprove it. My intention was not to offend anyone, but rather, to express annoyance with the umpteen "she has an adam's apple" jokes.

[Warpy]

53. Years ago, someone here found a high school picture of her

and while the drapes don't match the carpet, she started life female.

She's also 50 and a sinker instead of a sagger. Her 15 minutes of fame are almost up and she is not going to deal with it very well. She's sold poison based on her looks and those are going fast. When they're gone, everyone will notice all the toads hopping out of her mouth.

[begin_within]

55. Cousin It.

[demmiblue]

57. She is not worthy of being a man?!

Holy shite!

And here I thought that being a strong woman who has the polar opposite mind-set was good for, well, everything!

I guess I have no courage.

Talk about insulting.

[zellie]

63. True

It's also a slap on the face to the intersex and pansexual community.

[madrchsod]

61. i like..."thing"

[ArnoldLayne]

62. I still like "Mann" Coulter

[ghostsofgiants]

72. Yeah, transphobic insults are awesome.

Idiot.

[bunnies]

68. IMHO, This OP is just as bad as many of the jokes...

Though, having no maternal instincts myself, I'm "not worthy of being called a woman" and apparently lack the "compassion" to get where you're coming from. Fuckin Aye.

[seabeyond]

70. well, hell... and i can even be courageous. what can i say. lol. nt

[DonCoquixote]

78. again

Whileit seems the words did not work as planned,my point was to blow stereotypes,not praise them. I have already apologized before for this, but it seems it may need saying again.

[seabeyond]

80. nah... you dont have to apologize.

you saw up above... i love you don.

and still

i can be aggressive and to the point, too.

oh, and i appreciate your OP and point.

[bunnies]

82. no.

You only think you can because your ovaries LIE. Those little eggie bitches cant be trusted.

[mysuzuki2]

81. I've said it before here and I'll say it again,

I don't think Ann looks especially masculine but I really don't care what anyone calls her or what anyone says about her. She deserves it all and more. She's spent her "career" saying far worse things about others. Turnabout is only fair .