Why is a person who lives on disability, a republican?

[mrsadm]

An acquaintance of mine lives on disability because she has MS. She's been posting all sorts of repug crap - the same stuff you hear from Rush and the other repugs, like Obama cooked the job numbers - on facebook for all her friends to see. I finally had enough and posted something rude (like "shut up&quot and of course I was de-friended.

Don't people who depend on things like disability, and other benefits, realize they support the party that sees programs like that, as evil socialism? Even more, Ryan said he does not believe in "altruism". Didn't she hear about the Romney comments on entitlement for 47%? Is there a parallel universe out there? Am I dreaming? How can anyone be so stupid? (e.g. they vote against their own economic self interest). ARGH!!!!!

[slackmaster]

1. It takes the Village People to raise a child

[porphyrian]

19. Ryan is a macho man... n/t

[Kurovski]

71. Pick a daddy. Any daddy.

[sinkingfeeling]

2. You should have said, "How does it feel to support someone who calls you 'irresponsible

for your life'?

[nobodyspecial]

3. Because, unlike everyone else, they are good people

who actually deserve the help. The rest are lazy good-for-nothings. When cuts are made, they will not hurt good people who truly deserve help. Welcome to the land of delusional thinking.

[bamademocrat]

22. did glenn beck tell u that? ahhhhhhh

LOL.
Yea there are so many people out there who want to give up working so they can get the measly amount of money that disability gives them. its not even enough to survive.
And u actually support cutting benefits THAT THEY ACTUALLY PAID INTO THEMSELVES THIER WHOLE LIVES.
Its not acting "entitled" when u ask for what is due to you!
How can u guys vote for romney?
The guy actually said he enjoys firing people and he made his careeer by shutting down american plants.
HECK,HE EVEN TOLD THE DEBATE MODERATOR THAT HE WANTED TO FIRE HIM!!

[nobodyspecial]

40. I guess I forgot this

I thought "delusional thinking" covered it.

But, hey, thanks for bringing the righteous outrage to the party.

[renate]

57. welcome to DU!

[Kurovski]

72. Welcome to DU and...

a lot of irony and sarcasm.

I think eight years of Cheney/Bush has turned us positively British when it comes to irony.

[Ganja Ninja]

29. That's exactly how they think.

"I deserve mine it's all those other people that will get cut."

I think the GOP realized that they can bamboozle a lot of the disabled and elderly because they are isolated and medicated. They were right.

[onecent]

4. That is a question I ask myself EVERY DAY. I have relatives AND friends that need

help and they LOOOOVVVVEEEE THEIR church and they love them there republicans...
and you cannot CANNOT discuss it with them.

[Lilyeye]

5. My friend's uncle is on foodstamps and he is voting for Romney

He lost his job, so without those food stamps his family would be in even more trouble. However, the President's skin color seems to be more of a concern than his family not having food on the table. The sad part is that this idiot complains about the "lazy" minorities being on welfare and claims the President is more concerned about helping them. It is really sad and pathetic.

[Fumesucker]

13. I don't know who said this originally but it seems true to me...

The salient fact of American politics is that there are fifty to seventy million voters each of whom will volunteer to live, with his family, in a cardboard box under an overpass, and cook sparrows on an old curtain rod, if someone would only guarantee that the black, gay, Hispanic, liberal, whatever, in the next box over doesn't even have a curtain rod, or a sparrow to put on it.

[KamaAina]

20. It seems to be a commenter at Balloon Juice, whatever that is, going by the name "David X. Machina"

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/528.262001-Federal-Judge-rules-Health-Care-law-unconstitutional?page=2

P.S. I'm yoinking it for my sig line.

[Fumesucker]

21. I read there sometimes, probably where I picked it up..

I believe the same person also posts here at DU sometimes.

[Michigan Alum]

73. That is great. I'm posting this on Facebook.

N/t

[brush]

17. God!

There sure seems to a lot of dumb f _ _ ks out there in America. Seems like they didn't pay attention at all in school and learn how to think for themselves instead of what they hear on right wing media outlets. It is sad and pathetic.

[Darth_Kitten]

42. Maybe he resents his dependence?

I'm all for giving these kinds of people verbal wake-up calls. I know a lot of people say don't do anything with these kinds of people, it won't help, but it sure feels good to feed these self-righteous hypocrites and morons a good serving of humble pie.

Happy Thanksgiving (Canada)

[underthematrix]

78. does he realize

he won't be getting foodstamps under mittnocchio because food is not an entitlement or a right.

[Tumbulu]

6. I have a few friends like this as well

and I just cannot understand it. One is hell bent on getting rid of social security- and she depends on it!

And so I do not even know how to start. So, I don't.

[Darth_Kitten]

44. Ask her about her Plan B

How is she going to survive with no social security? Seriously? Ann Romney will send over a care package?

[treestar]

7. Strange, isn't it?

Does she realize she will need the charity of relatives if Mitt/Lyan had their way?

[Beartracks]

8. First of all - they focus on the "pro-life" reputation of the party.

Second - they don't see themSELVES as part of Romney's 47%.

This just my guess.

================

[hay rick]

9. They are profoundly foolish.

They vote their race and their "religion." Pathetic.

[Fumesucker]

10. It's those lazy, shiftless, one could even say uppity, others who are the problem.

Listen closely to Republican rhetoric and you'll start to hear the dog whistles, your acquaintance knows the Republicans aren't talking about her but rather about Cadillac driving welfare mothers and their strapping young baby daddys buying t-bone steaks and forty ounce malt liquors with welfare money.

Once you learn the code and what they're really talking about you'll be rather less perplexed and more disgusted.

[Odin2005]

69. Yup. It's really about not wanting "lazy n***ers" getting help.

These idiots also believe that Dems use welfare as bribe money to get minorities to vote Dem!

[Ikonoklast]

11. Because they are not rational thinkers.

If their churches were so great, why aren't THEY providing for the needs of those in want?

[BlueToTheBone]

12. They are one issue voters...generally "pro life"

although most I've met favor death penalty and have no problem with war.

[faith woos science]

18. Yeah "pro life"

They think they would be the one that was selected when a romney had In vitro,

Sperm sorting is a means of choosing what type of sperm cell is to fertilize the egg cell. It can be used to sort out sperm that are most healthy, as well as determination of more specific traits, such as sex selection in which spermatozoa are separated into X- (female) and Y- (male) chromosome bearing populations based on their difference in DNA content. The resultant 'sex-sorted' spermatozoa are then able to be used in conjunction with other assisted reproductive technologies such as artificial insemination or in-vitro fertilization (IVF) to produce offspring of the desired sex.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sperm_sorting

One lucky sperm first it starts off rich and selected from there.

[Odin2005]

70. Their preachers tell them they will go to Hell if they vote for "baby-killers".

[City Lights]

14. GOPers always make an exception for themselves.

They never put themselves into the same category with those people, even if they are doing the exact same thing. I wonder if there is an official name for this deranged method of thinking.

[dawg]

26. The scientific name for that is "assholery".

[City Lights]

39. LOL!

[SocratesInSpirit]

32. Fundamental attribution error. A common fallacy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_attribution_error

"In social psychology, the fundamental attribution error (also known as correspondence bias or attribution effect) describes the tendency to over-value dispositional or personality-based explanations for the observed behaviors of others while under-valuing situational explanations for those behaviors. The fundamental attribution error is most visible when people explain the behavior of others. It does not explain interpretations of one's own behavior—where situational factors are often taken into consideration. This discrepancy is called the actor–observer bias."

In a nutshell, when *I* have to go on food stamps, it's because I'm a victim of bad circumstance. When someone else has to go on food stamps, they are doing it because of an intrinsic character flaw - they are lazy and unwilling to get a "real" job. The cognitive dissonance is breathtaking.

[City Lights]

37. Thank you for this!

Fundamental attribution error is the official name, however, I prefer dawg's answer.

[begin_within]

15. I have a friend who collects SSI, even though I don't consider him disabled at all.

And he's a hard right-winger. I actually don't consider him a friend that much any more, but since I've known him 20 years, well, you know. I have never called him out on the SSI thing though. I prefer to avoid discussing anything with him.

[Agnosticsherbet]

16. They are channeling their inner Red Queen...

"Alice laughed: "There's no use trying," she said; "one can't believe impossible things."
"I daresay you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was younger, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast."
Alice in Wonderland.

[HopeHoops]

23. I've been working on getting my disability for over a year now - still waiting for a court date.

[Green_Lantern]

24. Because Romney is saying he'll keep those things and he will...

Bring in more revenue.

They think cutting spending applies only to lazy welfare bums.

[Tsiyu]

25. My dsabled cousin is the same

He started in yesterday on Soros, and Obama cooking the unemployment numbers and blah blah blah.

I finally said: "Dude, I'm gonna tell everyone like you to go right on ahead and vote for Romney/Ryan. But when those assholes take away your social security and medicare DO NOT call me and bitch about it, because I am gonna laugh in your face."

"But my SS is written in stone! They can't take that away!"

"Dear old Cuz, Romney and Ryan think SS is a Ponzi scheme, and NOTHING is written in stone. Democrats gave you SS and Republicans want it GONE. So do what you want, but DO NOT CALL ME and bitch later, cuz I don't want to hear it..."

"I guess I'm just not gonna vote this year, then," he said.

The media are messing with his mind; he has a head injury, but even HE can understand the peril he may face with a REpuke pres.

[dawg]

28. You may have scored a victory there.

It may be hopeless to get some of these people to vote for us, but if we can scare them into not voting for Romney, then we have won a small victory.

Personally, I see nothing at all wrong with scaring the hell out of these people.

They should be scared.

[Tsiyu]

35. That's the way I look at it

He is brainwashed and tends to believe everything he is told, but part of his deal is that on that ( Very Italian ) side of my family, there has been a falling out.

All of us have been diehard Dems, from our immigrant Grandma who always said, "FDR was our friend." But my cousin is angry at his Dem brothers ( with good cause but that's another story ) so I think he likes to play with Repukes as a way to disavow his siblings.

And part of it is the media, because he has all day to love on Glen Beck and FOX.

We go back and forth, but yesterday, I just had it, and decided I wasn't arguing any more. Ryan/Rmoney are very clear on how they view Social Security, and I am absolutely floored that people on SS would support them, so I am going to repeat that to everyone I know on SS.

"Vote for whom you wish, but DO NOT call me and complain when you end up losing your benefits because YOU DID IT TO YOURSELVES."

It's not a scare tactic; it's reality!

[LiberalFighter]

27. Because they can't get it through their mind that they are exactly like those 47%

They believe they are special!

[dawg]

30. When Romney was talking about the 47% ...

he didn't mean white people.

(Or at least that's what these idiots think)

[Care Acutely]

36. some of them will even say it

[AnnieBW]

81. There are no white people on public assistance

Just n****rs and illegals who are coming here to steal our tax money and pop out anchor babies.

[Care Acutely]

31. Well, "shut up" usually doesn't change any minds, although I can relate to your

frustration. My daughter has a friend who was injured badly, almost died 10 years ago at the age of 14 in an automobile accident. He's confined to a wheelchair and absolutely would rely on SSI to survive were he not living at home. He went to school on Pell grants. He reaps the benefits of the ADA everywhere he goes. You can be sure his single mother pays no income tax (she works as a gas-station cashier) and I suspect probably qualifies for and receives food stamps. He lives at home and takes his disability check to the casinos at the first of every month, where he posts Facebook updates on his poker and slots until the money runs dry again, till next month. He and his chain-smoking mommy are both rabid republicans.

Stupid little shit probably has a Romney/Ryan sticker on the back of his chair.

[Darth_Kitten]

46. They need their own reality show.

"Living Republican - Sopping up that gravy train - "

[WinkyDink]

33. It's people like this dame who remind me why I'm a misanthrope.

[Warpy]

34. She wants all those other people punished

You see, she's earned her disability insurance. She just doesn't think anyone else has.

[lunasun]

38. bitteness and hate with a side order of stupid maybe?

or Christian fed crap could do it too

[former9thward]

41. Would you ask a person who is wealthy why they are a Democrat?

It makes as much sense.

[mrsadm]

66. No, I would not.

I would think they might be of the same mind as FDR or John F Kennedy.

[former9thward]

67. Exactly.

Generalizations don't work. People believe things for other reasons than their economic circumstances.

[JI7]

43. is she White ? she may be racist, i came across someone like that once

it was at work. i wasn't really talking to her but another person i was working with was. she was saying all kinds of crap about how her daughter was White so she had it tougher while all the minority kids were getting into school because they were minority and had less standards. and minority kids didn't have to pay.

just spewing all kinds of shit.

[Darth_Kitten]

47. You don't have to be "white" to be racist.

n/t

[JI7]

49. in cases like the OP it's typical of many whites who vote republican but get govt assistance

to do so because they are racist.

[Darth_Kitten]

55. Perhaps.

n/t

[MinM]

45. Cognitive Dissonance

[Cleita]

48. I've known a couple of those on various types of public assistance

who vote Republican. Go figure.

[craigmatic]

50. cognitive dissonance

[Zoeisright]

51. Ignorance, a need to feel superior, bigotry.

Many low income repukes just hate everyone who is "other". It makes them feel superior to think they're part of a group like Romney and Reagan. Even though those two wouldn't spit on them if they were on fire.

[hughee99]

52. People should be required to vote for Dems if they're receiving government assistance.

How can anyone be so stupid to vote against their own economic interests? Ask a wealthy Democrat like Clinton, Kerry or Gore. Sometimes a vote isn't based on how much one will personally benefit. I supposed it works both ways.

[MFM008]

53. I am also

on disability. Dont these people realize if this clown is elected we will loose everything? Food stamps, housing, medical, it goes first. Where are you going to live when they pull housing assistance? Who can afford to live in a $600.00 apt and get 700.00 in disability. You cant do it. Homeless.

[vankuria]

54. Not to mention cuts to Medicaid

I'm sure alot of folks on disability also rely on Medicaid for their health insurance. A Romney/Ryan win could be the end of Medicaid as we know it and the safety net for millions of people.

[Kurovski]

74. There's no housing help left in parts of illinois. It will be YEARS. maybe a decade

remember also that SS had no cost of living raise for three years. food stamps have been reduced, medicaid also reduced further what it covers.

it's...hideous. People who think it's a sweet life are free to fall down a flight of steep stairs and find out first hand.

Really, just toss that smug ass down some huge lobby's marble staircase.

Enjoy the ride.

[Liberal In Texas]

56. They don't think the cuts will apply to them.

They think they deserve it but that other people don't, and that somehow cuts in "entitlements" won't hit them, just the "other people" who are driving around in Escalades and buying booze with food stamps.

Plus, add the constant propaganda they watch and listen to and you get these people who vote against their own best interests.

[anneboleyn]

64. Very sad and very, very stupid. It is sad, but how do you reason with sheer stupid?

[Fire Walk With Me]

58. I live on disability and I'm no damn republican. It makes me even more aware

that they want to take away the only thing keeping me alive (and yes, I worked and paid into it so it's MY MONEY).

Why would they vote against their own economic self-interest, among other things? They're (purposely) distracted by buzzwords and well-painted enemies of our country (read: anyone republicans don't like), etc. And/or their memories are too short-term to remember that republicans have been voting against more jobs purposely in order to claim it's Obama's fault.

[rustydog]

59. My republican buddy who survived 5 gunshots and was anti pot until he was disabled

He does not have a prescription. He is in favor of drug testing welfare recipients. I asked if he was in favor of drug testing those on SSI. He went ballistic.

[Autumn]

60. They listen to faux news, their church and those organizations clean it

up and twist what these fucking assholes say and there you have it, republicans are good and Democrats and Obama are bad.

[yardwork]

61. I know several who are Libertarian Tea Partiers.

They are on full disability, all paid by the government. In between government-paid surgeries they spend time organizing Tea Party events.

Can not figure this out except that they seem to be proud of themselves that they "won" and now they want to make sure that they get to keep it all themselves. They don't want to share.

[just1voice]

62. "Stupid" is the word, the perfect description

Hypocritical is another appropriate term, as well as self-destructive. Of course, many lying-ass repukes are actually mentally ill but it'll take another 10 years before that diagnosis is publicly acceptable.

[bigwillq]

63. Probably because they are conservative in other ways

Why are Pro-Life folks Democrats?

[11 Bravo]

65. Because the crippled baby antelope party for ravenous lions wouldn't have her?

[Odin2005]

68. Cognitive dissonance and racism.

A neighbor of my coworker is getting SSDI she probably should not be getting, and yet this woman rants about "lazy Mexicans and Bosnians" getting government assistance.

[Kurovski]

76. Bosnians?

OK.

[Ter]

75. Because there's more than one issue?

If someone agrees with the other party on everything else, he/she is not going to vote Democrat for this.

[hrmjustin]

77. I know people who hate Obama so much that they are willing to overcome their disdain of romney.

sick country we live in.

[B Calm]

79. It's what republicans do. They sit on

their big fat hemorrhoidal asses and point their shit stain fingers at everyone else!

[AnnieBW]

80. Long-Term Unemployed Guy Also Posting Repug Stuff

I have an acquaintance who has been out of the job for over 3 years who is a rabid Republican. Ironically, the job that he got laid off from was at a conservative website. He got laid off because he took too much sick leave. He's facing foreclosure, and is constantly begging us and our other friends for money. We did give him money once, but he spent it on comic books instead of his bills. Did I mention that this guy is in his 50's?

Of course, the reason that he continues to be unemployed is that it's all Obama's fault.

[B Calm]

82. Tell him to take personal responsibility and

quit blaming Obama. Then tell him to pull yourself up by your boot straps and quit being a victim.

It's always good to throw their propaganda right back at them!