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that Obama in power fits the idea that knowing that the economy would not be fixed in four years allows them to put a candidate up who will complete the agenda that they wanted all along.
malaise
(269,011 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)No one is running the GOP. That's the simplest explanation and therefore more likely to be correct.
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)Say hello to They for me.
TheMastersNemesis
(10,602 posts)There were better candidates than McCain-Palin. They were almost destined to lose the election with the way conditions were. And McCain's policies and GOP policies would have made matters even worse and we would likely be in worse shape right now.
The fact that the public did not give the Democrats a real mandate with full power allowed the GOP to use their obstruction tactics. Obama was lucky to get the stimulus he proposed. The actions taken and passed almost guaranteed a slow recovery because those actions were not strong enough.
Obama made a crucial decision that he could negotiate with these people. It allowed them to regroup and it made their successes in 2010 and they have almost ground the country to a stand still.
They did not like losing and hated seeing a black man win the White House. McCain was at the end of his political career. So if he lost they had other candidates.
The economy is not as good as it should be but it is still not good enough to give Obama a clear advantage. If the last UI report goes down again and a lot of jobs are added, then it will help a lot.
Sadly most Americans forgot that Bushco economics caused the mess and all Romney is is Bushco economics on afterburners.
openminded56
(19 posts)The pubs are in a mess, what bothers me is that the polls showing Romney just a few points behind. Can there really be that many people voting GOP?
RevStPatrick
(2,208 posts)Obama is doing a fine job for the plutocrats, and they are perfectly happy with him. They have no problem with him being reelected, so that he can continue to fix things up. Disaster Capitalism requires something of value to break for profit, and we are now in the fixing things up part of the cycle.
It's only the whackjobs and the propaganda arm of Plutocracy Inc. that wants us to think that Obama is a problem, so that they can have their horse race and keep ad revenues up.
I like Mr. Obama, but he is part of the game and he knows it damn well...
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)If all of Republicans could form an over-mind and think so broadly and strategically, we would be arguing in a cage in Gitmo.
McCain won his primary because, of all their choices in 2008, a plurality of Republicans though he could win. They were wrong.
Romney won his primary because, of all their choices in 2012, a plurality in the primary thought he could win over the wave of crazy that pushed him to the top. I am fairly confident that they are wrong. (There are no sure things in history.)
cali
(114,904 posts)that the 2008 repub primaries were fixed? Didn't McCain win before Obama?
skypilot
(8,854 posts)...here seem to think. I remember reading articles by republican pundits in 2008 saying that it would probably be better to lose that round so that they could get their ducks in a row. I was trying to find some of them but so far all I could come up with was this:
http://www.dickmorris.com/an-election-that-the-republicans-needed-to-lose-good-luck-obama/
randome
(34,845 posts)Hardly.
skypilot
(8,854 posts)...but I never said they were good at it.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)....I even felt myself that Obama should have held off running until 2012....He would have won well over 400EVs because the GOP would be so fucked.
However, just goes to show, Democrats can fix things....maybe just not as fast as everyone wants.
gordianot
(15,238 posts)Republican policy still advocated by Republican's and support of an oligarchy is and will always be fatal. The European austerity model Republican's endorse does nothing but fail.
sharkman25
(143 posts)I don't think for a minute that McCain or the GOP purposely lost the last election. That's just crazy.
TheMastersNemesis
(10,602 posts)if they did not win, they would not like it but knew that even McCain would not turn the economy around. Some pundit even said that the GOP would just blame the Democrat for all the jobs they lost. And they are doing in.
xfundy
(5,105 posts)that McCain was another Dole.
Of course, that bunch is so corrupt, one can never be sure of anything.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)....Rmoney is more likely a sacrificial lamb because they know they don't have anyone who can beat Obama, so he's getting the Bob Dole "Okay, you can be the nominee" treatment.
There is nothing exceptional about Mitt Rmoney as a person or a pol that makes him worthy of that office, and he doesn't have a machine behind him like Dumbya did.
Bake
(21,977 posts)I don't think so. They just don't have any viable candidates, period.
Bake