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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Mon Oct 8, 2012, 10:48 AM Oct 2012

Which Senate Democrats are likely to vote to cut Social Security?

Obama can't change Social Security on his own, so which Democrats are going to vote for this?

Do Not Cut Social Security

September 20, 2012

A major bloc of 29 senators took a strong stand today against any cuts to Social Security as part of a deficit reduction deal. "We will oppose including Social Security cuts for future or current beneficiaries in any deficit reduction package," the senators said in a letter circulated by Sen. Bernie Sanders, the founder of the Senate Defending Social Security Caucus. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and Sen. Charles Schumer, the Senate's No. 3 leader, signed the letter. So did Sens. Mark Begich, Sheldon Whitehouse and Al Franken, who joined Sanders at a Capitol news conference.

Social Security has not contributed to the deficit or to the national debt, the senators said. The program that benefits more than 50 million retirees, widows, widowers, orphans and disabled Americans has a $2.7 trillion surplus and, according to actuaries, will be able to pay every benefit owed to every eligible recipient for the next 21 years.

"Contrary to some claims, Social Security is not the cause of our nation's deficit problem. Not only does the program operate independently, but it is prohibited from borrowing," the letter said. "Even though Social Security operates in a fiscally responsible manner, some still advocate deep benefit cuts and seem convinced that Social Security hands out lavish welfare checks. But Social Security is not welfare. Seniors earned their benefits by working and paying into the system," the letter added.

Social Security has not contributed to deficits because it has a dedicated funding stream. Workers and employers each pay half of a 12.4 percent payroll tax on the first $110,100 of a worker's wages. The tax rate for employees was reduced to 4.2 percent in 2011 and 2012, but is scheduled to return to 6.2 percent in January.

To read the letter, click here »

http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/news/?id=066FB085-5798-4E6C-ABA2-85549D84DFA6


When I see a letter signed by everyone from Harry Reid to Carl Levin to Joe Manchin, I'm thinking nothing is going to happen. Eleven more Senators and that's a filibuster. President Obama cannot change Social Security singlehandedly. That change would have to go through Congress. I doubt there are going to be Democrats, especially those up for re-election in 2014, who are going to put their careers on line.

Paul Ryan's reception by the AARP should be an indication that Social Security is still a political third rail.

Signatories:

Sens. Jack Reed (D-R.I.), Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio), Ron Wyden (D-Ore.), Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.), Ben Cardin (D-Md.), Debbie Stabenow (D-Mich.), Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.), Tom Harkin (D-Iowa), Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.), Frank Lautenberg (D-N.J.), Barbara Mikulski (D-Md.), Patty Murray (D-Wash.), Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.), Maria Cantwell (D-Wash.), Daniel Akaka (D-Hawaii), Tim Johnson (D-S.D.), John D. Rockefeller IV (D-W.Va.), Daniel Inouye (D-Hawaii), Tom Udall (D-N.M.), Robert Menendez (D-N.J.), Carl Levin (D-Mich.), Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) and Joe Manchin III (D-W.Va.)


How President Obama and Mitt Romney compare on preserving Social Security for America’s seniors
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021488868

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Which Senate Democrats are likely to vote to cut Social Security? (Original Post) ProSense Oct 2012 OP
No comment? n/t ProSense Oct 2012 #1
New group: Strengthen Social Security flamingdem Oct 2012 #2
Love it. Signed. Thanks for the link. n/t ProSense Oct 2012 #5
You're very welcome! nt flamingdem Oct 2012 #7
Absolutely agree - closeupready Oct 2012 #13
I know the theory is that Obama ProSense Oct 2012 #3
I think Kent Conrad. BlueToTheBone Oct 2012 #4
Thanks for responding. ProSense Oct 2012 #6
Whichever one isn't standing for re-election next term, and decides to cash in before they go. Ikonoklast Oct 2012 #8
I think the ones who didn't sign the letter should get some pressure... tokenlib Oct 2012 #9
Good idea. n/t ProSense Oct 2012 #10
i would think 'no cuts to SS' would be the basic democratic position, not the position of a mere 29. HiPointDem Oct 2012 #11
that is an impressive list Enrique Oct 2012 #12
Surprised that Schumer didn't sign it. closeupready Oct 2012 #14

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
2. New group: Strengthen Social Security
Mon Oct 8, 2012, 11:06 AM
Oct 2012
http://strengthensocialsecurity.org/about


An American coalition united around the simple proposition, Strengthen Social Security... Don't Cut It.

Our coalition is made up of over 300 national and state organizations representing over 50 million Americans. We are here to make sure that real people's voices are heard. We stand united behind seven commonsense principles.

Contact us at 202-454-6197

Strengthen Social Security
1825 K St. NW
Washington, DC 20036
Seven Principles:

1) Social Security did not cause the federal deficit; its benefits should not be cut to reduce the deficit.

2) Social Security should not be privatized in whole or in part.

3) Social Security should not be means-tested.

4) Congress should act in the coming few years to close Social Security’s funding gap by requiring those who are most able to afford it to pay somewhat more.

5) Social Security’s retirement age, already scheduled to increase from 65 to 67, should not be raised further.

6) Social Security’s benefits should not be reduced, including by changes to the COLA or the benefit formula.

7) Social Security’s benefits should be increased for those who are most disadvantaged.

Read More About Our Seven Principles
Our Steering Committee:

AFL-CIO
Alliance for Retired Americans
American Federation of State, County, and Municipal Employees
American Federation of Teachers
Campaign for America's Future
Center for Community Change
Democracy For America
Economic Policy Institute
Food Research Action Center
Generations United
Latinos for a Secure Retirement
MoveOn.org Political Action
NAACP
National Committee to Preserve Social Security and Medicare
National Council of Women's Organizations
National Gay and Lesbian Task Force
National Nurses United
National Organization for Women
National Senior Citizens Law Center
National Women's Law Center
OWL - The Voice of Midlife and Older Women
Service Employees International Union (SEIU)
Social Security Works
Sojourners
The Arc
United Cerebral Palsy
USAction
Voices for America’s Children

See the rest of our Coalition here

Learn more about our convening organization Social Security Works here

For Media Inquiries please contact Lacy Crawford at lcrawford@socialsecurity-works.org

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
3. I know the theory is that Obama
Mon Oct 8, 2012, 11:07 AM
Oct 2012

will likely strong-arm Congress, but anyone wants to speculate about the Democrats who will likely sell out?

I mean, we could focus on them now before it's too late.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
6. Thanks for responding.
Mon Oct 8, 2012, 11:25 AM
Oct 2012

I was beginning to think the concern about Social Security is only related to Obama's position, not what Congress will do.

Conrad is a good candidate. Maybe Durbin.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
8. Whichever one isn't standing for re-election next term, and decides to cash in before they go.
Mon Oct 8, 2012, 11:37 AM
Oct 2012

Max Baucus.

tokenlib

(4,186 posts)
9. I think the ones who didn't sign the letter should get some pressure...
Mon Oct 8, 2012, 11:44 AM
Oct 2012

The problem with "cuts" is that they will proclaim it as a "balanced" approach. The "big lie" of Social Security going broke has enough acceptance in the general populace that I fear they could get away with it.
Simpson-Bowles approach being sold as "reasonable" should be a warning sign--

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
11. i would think 'no cuts to SS' would be the basic democratic position, not the position of a mere 29.
Mon Oct 8, 2012, 04:16 PM
Oct 2012

there are 244 democrats in congress. these 29 = 12%.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
12. that is an impressive list
Mon Oct 8, 2012, 04:17 PM
Oct 2012

particularly the Senate Majority Leader.

But they might be going against the President of the United States. That's a whole other level of impressive.

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