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SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 08:09 PM Jan 2021

Shaman seeking pardon

https://www.kmov.com/news/qanon-shaman-hires-st-louis-attorney-al-watkins-seeks-pardon-for-following-trumps-invitation/article_2008074e-56b7-11eb-91d3-6f9c640ddaf4.html

Jake Angeli, whose legal name is Jacob Anthony Chansley, was taken into custody Saturday in Arizona. An indictment unsealed Tuesday in Washington charged the 33-year-old with civil disorder, obstruction of an official proceeding, disorderly conduct in a restricted building, and demonstrating in a Capitol building. It’s unclear whether the new charges are felonies or misdemeanors. Chansley was previously charged with two misdemeanors stemming from the violent riot — entering a restricted building without lawful authority and violent entry and disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds.

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Angeli "accepted President Trump's invitation to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue to the Capitol," Watkins said in a statement. “Mr. Chansley is an American; he served honorably in the U.S. military. He has zero criminal history. He is a lover of nature, routinely practices meditation, is an active practicer of yoga and eats only organic food. He took seriously the countless messages of President Trump. He believed in President Trump. Like tens of millions of other Americans, Chansley felt -- for the first time in his life -- as though his voice was being heard.”

Watkins said Angeli played no part in the violence and surrendered peacefully, warranting a pardon.

“My client had heard the oft-repeated words of President Trump,” Mr. Watkins continued. “The words and invitation of a president are supposed to mean something. Given the peaceful and compliant fashion in which Mr. Chansley comported himself, it would be appropriate and honorable for the president to pardon Mr. Chansley and other like-minded, peaceful individuals who accepted the president’s invitation with honorable intentions.”

More at link. Here we go...
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Shaman seeking pardon (Original Post) SheltieLover Jan 2021 OP
Did he start eating or maybe is he going to starve to death? I don't think so. Maraya1969 Jan 2021 #1
A judge ordered him to be fed organic food due to his religious beliefs nt Celerity Jan 2021 #8
More likely they just told him here, this is organic. It's what I would have done. lettucebe Jan 2021 #25
I thought I heard today that he got into trouble in the military MiniMe Jan 2021 #2
He refused to get an Anthrax vaccine TexasBushwhacker Jan 2021 #6
I also heard him BGBD Jan 2021 #29
Chansley was an accessory to the Incitement of Insurrection for which Trump has been impeached LongtimeAZDem Jan 2021 #3
Ooh good question. underpants Jan 2021 #7
+1,000! SheltieLover Jan 2021 #16
mitch has trump in a box and he knows it..... getagrip_already Jan 2021 #4
His attorney is named Watkins? intrepidity Jan 2021 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2021 #11
Unless a pardon will help Trump, it won't happen Raven123 Jan 2021 #9
Trump could still do it as a last middle finger to everyone. Marius25 Jan 2021 #17
And more likely to lose some votes during the trial Raven123 Jan 2021 #19
Ah shucks, let him serve some time. That's REAL street-cred. Baked Potato Jan 2021 #10
maybe is just me dweller Jan 2021 #12
Jake the Shaman caused His Highness to be impeached. Pardon? Doubtful. Vinca Jan 2021 #13
Tell him to shove his horns where the sun don't shine nt Wicked Blue Jan 2021 #14
This is so disgusting. Marius25 Jan 2021 #15
I mean, everyone has zero criminal history -- until they start committing crimes. W_HAMILTON Jan 2021 #18
So if you "invite" someone to a bank robbery & get caught SheltieLover Jan 2021 #20
:Given the peaceful and compliant fashion... Ferrets are Cool Jan 2021 #21
Wahahaha SheltieLover Jan 2021 #22
Good luck with that Q'bacca! Lucinda Jan 2021 #23
Ha ha - re; "Q'bacca"! consider_this Jan 2021 #24
I stole it! Suits him doesnt it? Lucinda Jan 2021 #26
Nothing in it for Trump. Enjoy prison. nt Gore1FL Jan 2021 #27
Ah, he forgot to read the Constitution Generic Brad Jan 2021 #28

lettucebe

(2,337 posts)
25. More likely they just told him here, this is organic. It's what I would have done.
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 10:20 PM
Jan 2021

Who does he think he is? Making special food orders? It's ridiculous, and yet, we hear he got what he wanted. JFC

MiniMe

(21,718 posts)
2. I thought I heard today that he got into trouble in the military
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 08:16 PM
Jan 2021

and there is a question as to if he was honorably discharged or dishonorable discharged

TexasBushwhacker

(20,215 posts)
6. He refused to get an Anthrax vaccine
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 08:20 PM
Jan 2021

He probably got a general or a medical discharge.

He is also a "failed actor" and was recently evicted from his apartment. He lives with his mommy.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
29. I also heard him
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 11:02 PM
Jan 2021

claiming that he was part of a "Super Soldier" program.

I assume that means he's also Wolverine.

LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
3. Chansley was an accessory to the Incitement of Insurrection for which Trump has been impeached
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 08:17 PM
Jan 2021

Since the Constitution specifically excepts "Cases of Impeachment", can he actually be pardoned?

getagrip_already

(14,838 posts)
4. mitch has trump in a box and he knows it.....
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 08:19 PM
Jan 2021

because mitch has said he "could" support conviction, that was a clear message for trump to be on his best behavior until he is out of office.

That doesn't include pardoning those that attacked the capitol. If he thumbs his nose at mitch and creates anger through pardons or other actions, mitch could very well off him after he is out of office.

But trump doesn't usually act in his own best interests, and those still left advising are the worst rwnj's.

We'll see what he does. this has gone way too random to call because his mind is gone and those around him are corrupt.

Response to intrepidity (Reply #5)

 

Marius25

(3,213 posts)
17. Trump could still do it as a last middle finger to everyone.
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 08:50 PM
Jan 2021

But, by pardoning these people, he's admitting he's guilty of inciting the attack.

dweller

(23,662 posts)
12. maybe is just me
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 08:47 PM
Jan 2021

but I somehow find mr natural mystic guru peace and love and avid follower of fatnixon a congruent mix ... I mean I guess it’s possible with the right mix of psychotropics and induced hysteria?


✌🏻

 

Marius25

(3,213 posts)
15. This is so disgusting.
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 08:49 PM
Jan 2021

If Trump pardons these terrorists...

The pardon power is way way too easy to abuse.

W_HAMILTON

(7,873 posts)
18. I mean, everyone has zero criminal history -- until they start committing crimes.
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 08:51 PM
Jan 2021

Does he want an (organic) cookie or something?

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
20. So if you "invite" someone to a bank robbery & get caught
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 08:51 PM
Jan 2021

Can you wave a magic wand & make it all go away?

Nope.

Generic Brad

(14,276 posts)
28. Ah, he forgot to read the Constitution
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 10:57 PM
Jan 2021

Presidential pardons don’t count in the case of insurrection and impeachment - both of which happened.

No pardon for you!

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