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https://www.kmov.com/news/qanon-shaman-hires-st-louis-attorney-al-watkins-seeks-pardon-for-following-trumps-invitation/article_2008074e-56b7-11eb-91d3-6f9c640ddaf4.htmlJake Angeli, whose legal name is Jacob Anthony Chansley, was taken into custody Saturday in Arizona. An indictment unsealed Tuesday in Washington charged the 33-year-old with civil disorder, obstruction of an official proceeding, disorderly conduct in a restricted building, and demonstrating in a Capitol building. Its unclear whether the new charges are felonies or misdemeanors. Chansley was previously charged with two misdemeanors stemming from the violent riot entering a restricted building without lawful authority and violent entry and disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds.
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Angeli "accepted President Trump's invitation to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue to the Capitol," Watkins said in a statement. Mr. Chansley is an American; he served honorably in the U.S. military. He has zero criminal history. He is a lover of nature, routinely practices meditation, is an active practicer of yoga and eats only organic food. He took seriously the countless messages of President Trump. He believed in President Trump. Like tens of millions of other Americans, Chansley felt -- for the first time in his life -- as though his voice was being heard.
Watkins said Angeli played no part in the violence and surrendered peacefully, warranting a pardon.
My client had heard the oft-repeated words of President Trump, Mr. Watkins continued. The words and invitation of a president are supposed to mean something. Given the peaceful and compliant fashion in which Mr. Chansley comported himself, it would be appropriate and honorable for the president to pardon Mr. Chansley and other like-minded, peaceful individuals who accepted the presidents invitation with honorable intentions.
More at link. Here we go...
Maraya1969
(22,501 posts)Celerity
(43,535 posts)lettucebe
(2,337 posts)Who does he think he is? Making special food orders? It's ridiculous, and yet, we hear he got what he wanted. JFC
MiniMe
(21,718 posts)and there is a question as to if he was honorably discharged or dishonorable discharged
TexasBushwhacker
(20,215 posts)He probably got a general or a medical discharge.
He is also a "failed actor" and was recently evicted from his apartment. He lives with his mommy.
BGBD
(3,282 posts)claiming that he was part of a "Super Soldier" program.
I assume that means he's also Wolverine.
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)Since the Constitution specifically excepts "Cases of Impeachment", can he actually be pardoned?
underpants
(182,884 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Excellent question!
getagrip_already
(14,838 posts)because mitch has said he "could" support conviction, that was a clear message for trump to be on his best behavior until he is out of office.
That doesn't include pardoning those that attacked the capitol. If he thumbs his nose at mitch and creates anger through pardons or other actions, mitch could very well off him after he is out of office.
But trump doesn't usually act in his own best interests, and those still left advising are the worst rwnj's.
We'll see what he does. this has gone way too random to call because his mind is gone and those around him are corrupt.
intrepidity
(7,336 posts)JFC I'm beginning to believe there are no coincidences.
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Raven123
(4,868 posts)Marius25
(3,213 posts)But, by pardoning these people, he's admitting he's guilty of inciting the attack.
Raven123
(4,868 posts)Baked Potato
(7,733 posts)dweller
(23,662 posts)but I somehow find mr natural mystic guru peace and love and avid follower of fatnixon a congruent mix ... I mean I guess its possible with the right mix of psychotropics and induced hysteria?
✌🏻
Vinca
(50,308 posts)Wicked Blue
(5,851 posts)Marius25
(3,213 posts)If Trump pardons these terrorists...
The pardon power is way way too easy to abuse.
W_HAMILTON
(7,873 posts)Does he want an (organic) cookie or something?
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Can you wave a magic wand & make it all go away?
Nope.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,110 posts)in which Mr. Chansley comported himself"
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Lucinda
(31,170 posts)❤️~✿~❧~🌿~❧~✿~❤️
consider_this
(2,203 posts)great moniker.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)Gore1FL
(21,152 posts)Generic Brad
(14,276 posts)Presidential pardons dont count in the case of insurrection and impeachment - both of which happened.
No pardon for you!