A STRONG MACHO OBAMA IMAGE!!! DOES IT EXIST?
The first Presidential debate of the 2012 election season has now become part of history. There has been many takes on the debate especially about Obama's performance. Most people's take on it will depend on which side of the partisan divide they are on. Going by what matters to the very corrupt, corporate, for profit media we have in this country, truth is no longer sacred! What matters is the spin that will get the most following, viewership/ readership, and thus the most ratings and of course $$$$$$. So something as important as a Presidential debate, which should be about clear delivery of policy in a way the voting masses can understand and follow, is treated like the superbowl or UFC where the guys that pull the other down the most win. How many people came off the debate knowing exactly what Romney's policy position on any issue is? Yet according to the for profit media, Romney "won"!!! How rediculous is that?
What bothers me is that we live at a time when most people make judgements, not based on substance or truths, but on image projected in the media or on opinions espoused by so called self appointed "pundits"
which are usually not worth 2 cents in my opinion ). How well has Obama projected the image of a strong leader? Before I go further, I must say that I am a strong OBAMACAN( supporter ) and have been since 2007. My contributions to Obama and Democratic campaigns is well over $2000 since 2008. I am proud of this support and I believe in President Obama's ideals, but I have had my points of disagreement. My strongest point of disagreement being Mr. Obama's inability to stand up strong in the face of fierce opposition!!
The early pointer to this was in early 2009, shortly after the President was sworn in. Many members of the Democratic caucus in the senate wanted Joe Libermann's committee chairman seat taken from him, and for good reason too. Libermann, a former Democrat endorsed Republican John Mccain and appeared at campaign events around the country with him, blasting Obama on every front. How did Obama handle this? He admonished the senate Democrats and advocated for the evil Libermann to keep his seat. How did that workout? Libermann never supported any of Obama's policies. He voted with Republicans to frustrated every policy that will turn the economy around and give points to the Obama administration.
Next, Mitch Mcconnell went on national television and shamelessly declared that the only agenda the Republican party had was to ensure that Obama never got a second term!! Obama never called Mitch Maccon artist out on this, rather he expended political capital trying to appease the rabidly evil Republicons. He never made a case against these self serving and unpatriotic Republicans before the American people. He never told the American people that what this really meant was that Republicans had chosen to hurt the country by opposing any policy that will lead to economic recovery, or even put forward policies of their own. Obama, ever willing to compromise succumbed to every Republican blackmail. How did that play out? It made the Republicans stronger and more vehement in their rabid and often unreasonable opposition, knowing fully well that Obama was the kind of guy that could be pushed around.
Fast forward to the Presidential debates. This was a big stage for Obama to take charge and dictate the tone and pace of the debate. All he needed to do on that night in my opinion, was to be President to both Romney and Lehrer and indeed 300 million Americans. It was an opportunity for Obama to stand strong, all macho and be the BOSS, call the shots and call Romney to order!! What did Obama do? He, in his characteristic way, ceeded this role to Romney, and chose to look from the sidelines, thus giving a whimp like Romney, the image of a strong leader. It is this image that won Romney the first debate and not the substance or the truths of his positions. Anybody can win a debate against Mitt Romney on the economy and domestic issues. The amount of material out there that will make Romney capitulate in minutes is mind boggling. But Obama,for reasons I am yet to understand chose not to use them.
This raises the question, are we ever going to see an image of a strong, kick ass Obama? Does Obama have it in him or is he just a pacifist, compromiser, why can't we all get along kind of guy? I have a problem with this image. I believe there is a time to compromise and a time to stand up strong and fight. I think the excuses of not wanting to appear as a bully or an angry black man are old and lame. The Republicans have made it clear at every opportunity that their loyalty is not to America or the American people, but to themselves and are willing to use every hurtful tactic that will fool the people and allow them to secure power. It is time for Obama to stand strong in the face of fierce Republican opposition and obstruction and hold his own. It is time he excudes strength and project the image of a guy who is willing and ready to kick Republican asses anytime. No more unnecessary compromise without getting anything in return, no more capitulation, no more allowing Romney to lie every second and behave like a hood thug without being called to order. I want the image of a strong macho Obama!!! But does it exist?
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thankfully there is nothing like that of OBama
Ordering people to kill someone else isn't macho (even the case of Obama and Bin Laden). I know you were being sarcastic in your post of that picture of George W. and I don't mean to seem like I'm flaming you. I'm not, I'm just reacting to the whole thread with what I'm writing, and not your post.
At first glance I'm probably the least assuming manly man you'll ever see. I drive a blue Volkswagon Beetle (definitely not a manly car) with pro-vegetarian stickers plastered all over it (real men eat meat, and lots of it). I don't have any tattoos and I certainly don't look intimidating with my almost constant friendly face and smile. I have two little girls (aged 2 and 4) and I'm usually out and about with them in tow (real men don't play with kids and certainly don't show emotions like love). I have no shame hugging or kissing my girls in public and showing my soft and nurturing side. I even wear a pink shirt and, admittedly, I do look pretty when I wear it. At first glance you probably would think I was soft and maybe even effeminate with the emotions and nurturing demeanor I show. However, you'd be completely wrong.
I'm probably the most "manly" guy you'll ever meet if violence and guts are a true measure of manliness. I was an Infantry Platoon Leader in Iraq for 13 months and I saw and dealt more than my fair share of violence and death.
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People who look macho, in my experience, are just all appearance and don't have the guts to back up that look. I don't have the look, but I assure you I have the guts.
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Was Ghandi a "macho man"?
Was Martin Luther King a "macho man"
Was Jackie Robinson a "macho man"
btw, the Village People who sang "Macho man" sang it as a satire of course.
And that ultra violent Bryan Cranston shit "Breaking Bad" is a DARK COMEDY SATIRE basically.
We dare not looking for our president (or we SHOULD NOT be looking for Obama to change.
And, how much more macho can you get that shooting Osama Bin Laden dead?
Sheesh.
btw,Christian Bale's Batman portrayal of a real man as a flawed super hero certainly not macho at all.
and the Expendibles is a FARCE LIKE PLAY on the former 1980s type superman action hero.
Not meant to be real, just fun.
And you seem to not know how government in the US ever worked.
COMPROMISE is how the founding fathers wrote the constitution(and put the ridiculous #2 bill of right in, which was not even wanted, but to get it signed, it was put there by one of the founding fathers.)
(and how Macho Thomas Jefferson was raping his female slaves, ooh what a macho, macho man he was)
The only difference between FDR(was FDR in his wheelchair a macho, macho man?)
Was LBJ a macho, macho man?
Was JFK or RFK a macho, macho man?(If they were Superman, how come the bullets didn't bounce off them?)
You seem to want Obama to be the teaparty 1855 wild wild west John Wayne type.
If the teaparty were in office, Obama would never have the right to vote, let alone win.
BTW-Jackie Robinson was picked to be the first black baseball player in the major leagues for many reasons, but the most important one was, for his tempermant.
He had it in him to deflect the barbs, without going off the deep end, was able to zen like(and Obama like) keep cool and not do things a WHITE Person can get away with doing
(for example MITT frothing and foaming and Cujo rabid like this week.)
Do you think in America, even in 2012, a black man can do that? It would have destroyed him in his own party.
What did mitt win? NOTHING AT ALL.
(see my separate thread on this.)
And only the legendary Al Sharpton and Joy Ann Reid saw the truth.
AND MORE IMPORTANT SPOKE THE TRUTH on MSNBC
That both are black and know actual history is the point.
Had it been someone with a hot head like say Pete Rose as the Jackie Robinson, or Ty Cobb cursing and spitting and fighting (if you are old enough, remember when Pete Rose unprovoked beat up Bud Harrelson)
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yeah, right, sure, you want MY President Barack Obama like that?
wtf is up with that logic.
Now, maybe you wrote the original post as a satire itself.
But I love the Village People, but I do not want a "macho macho man" as my president
bang bang shoot em up out of control cowboy.
And in the oddity of all oddity, all this talk is in 2016 going to lead to that macho man Jeb Bush (odd how bullies and macho men in real life actually look like 41 and 43 and woooo,
what a macho man Adolf Hitler was.
That people want to turn OUR president, into a Hitler is beyond me.
Please don't change President Obama- you have brought more change for the better than any president since LBJ and FDR before him. I for one can't wait for the next 4 years, and then Macho Man (ha ha ha) Hillary Rodham Clinton to be Hillary45.
with that in place, come back in 2024 and let's see if all the Debbie Downers and Sad Sam's are still whining and not realizing how 10% of something is better than 100% of nothing.
High entertainment factor 
