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bigtree

(86,005 posts)
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 12:46 PM Oct 2012

There's More Good News In The Jobs Report Than You Might Realize

Josh Marshall ?@joshtpm
There's more good news in the jobs report than u may realize http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2012/10/important_point_on_jobs.php … via @TPM

Around six weeks and particularly after the conventions, both campaigns started noticing that public perceptions of the economy were on the upswing. But neither campaign had a clear sense of why that was happening. The economy itself seemed either stable (in a bad place) or even trending down. Was there something going on in the economy that the hard economic data wasn’t picking up? Or was the campaign itself somehow partisanizing perceptions of the economy? Or maybe did Obama and Clinton just get people really pumped up about the economy?

But new evidence suggests it may have been the former possibility. We don’t just have a decent jobs report today. The BLS also revised the numbers for July and August pretty dramatically. August was revised up from 96,000 to 142,000 and July was revised up to 181,000. Those aren’t roaring recovery numbers but they paint a very different picture than the original numbers. This comes on the heels of a report a week ago that the BLS upward revised the jobs numbers from the first half of the year by 386,000 jobs.

Together, again, that paints a significantly different picture of where the economy has been for the last year. Politically, we’ve been operating on the assumption that the economy got into gear last winter and then slumped back into anemic jobs growth in the spring. But it seems like on the ground that may not actually have happened. So if we wonder why Obama’s numbers have resisted the anemic jobs reality, it seems like we may have had an incorrect picture of what that reality was.


read: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2012/10/important_point_on_jobs.php

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There's More Good News In The Jobs Report Than You Might Realize (Original Post) bigtree Oct 2012 OP
K & R. PA Democrat Oct 2012 #1
. n/t porphyrian Oct 2012 #2
K&R skeewee08 Oct 2012 #3
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Oct 2012 #4
The thing is that without knowing about the revisions the numbers don't make sense. dkf Oct 2012 #5
the last revisions were upward, more jobs created bigtree Oct 2012 #6
I'm talking about reactions to the word "revision". dkf Oct 2012 #7
okay, I get it bigtree Oct 2012 #8
 

dkf

(37,305 posts)
5. The thing is that without knowing about the revisions the numbers don't make sense.
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 12:56 PM
Oct 2012

And unfortunately revisions can make conspiracy theorists antennae rise.

Just look at the revision of Mitt Romney's estimated income for his taxes vs the final...it was making all the wheels spin here and even some more academic professors latched onto it also.

bigtree

(86,005 posts)
6. the last revisions were upward, more jobs created
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 01:02 PM
Oct 2012

. . . and all of the trends have been improving steadily for over 30 months now. Comparing the BLS report with Romney's explanation (non-explanation) of his taxes is just absurd, dkf

bigtree

(86,005 posts)
8. okay, I get it
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 01:26 PM
Oct 2012

I'd say, though, that if job growth was revised downward, they'd surely embrace those revisions. They can't be allowed to keep shifting what they believe every time they get called out or bested.

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