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yurbud

(39,405 posts)
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 12:17 PM Oct 2012

an easy reply to why economy hasn't improved faster: stimulus was half full of GOP "solutions"

Tax cuts don't create jobs when no one is buying your product.

If you directly create jobs, people have money to buy stuff, which creates demand, which creates jobs.

Do the businesses who now have customers care if their customers got the paycheck their paycheck from the government as long as they are buying?

I don't think so.

What is so damn hard about saying that?

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mike_c

(36,281 posts)
2. greater than 90% of the recovery was captured by the wealthiest 1%....
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 12:22 PM
Oct 2012

Ultimately, partisan politics is a smoke screen and a distraction. This is class war.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
5. how few does there have to be before Democrats stop giving away the store to them?
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 07:00 PM
Oct 2012

and how was it that Bush was able to do whatever the fuck he wanted without Democrats in Congress getting in his way?

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
7. A filibuster proof majoirty in each house would help be the minimum...
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 07:30 PM
Oct 2012

If they have to get Republicans to pass a bill, they will always have to give up something.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
9. Democrats thought differently than Republicans...
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 02:05 PM
Oct 2012

Throughout the Bush years, they felt that a functioning government was better than locking up government and refusing to let it function. That was the traditional way that government worked until 2008. They did not block bills, but under Kennedy they did work to try and get bills that did some good, such as No Child Left Behind and the expansion of the Medicare drug benefit.

In 2008, Republicans no longer were willing to compromise, they entered an era where the blocked whatever they could and changed the nature of the way our government worked.

One weakness with our form of winner take all government is that compromise is necessary. If you have a party with big majorities, such as the Democrats had in the Congress almost constantly between WWII and 1996, then a lot could be done. Hell, the civil Rights Act of 1994 would not have passed with just Democrats, many of whom hated the bill. Republicans, especially of the Rockefeller variety of Fiscal Conservative Socially Liberal Republicans were necessary for that bill to pass. You will also find the same true of medicare and Medicaid. Back then, each party had its more liberal, centrist, and conservative members. That is no longer true of Republicans.

Since 2008, and especially since 2010, Republicans chose not to compromise at all. They stressed ideological purity that became the norm under Gingrich. Unless they go back to a policy of governing and compromise rather than ideological purity, it will require a super majority in both houses of Congress to get anything big done.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
10. Dems could at least SAY it, even if they couldn't get around doing a half-assed job
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 07:20 PM
Oct 2012

although in this case the ass is an elephant.

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