On CNN - Robme WANTED Obama to bring up the 47%

[kalli007]

He's released some stupid video saying how "wrong" he was about that comment, and his campaign stated that he wanted Obama to bring it up during the debate so he could "make it right" BUT HE DIDNT!!!!!!!!!!

[unblock]

1. exactly. too easy to respond to. the obama strategists know not to just say the first thing

that comes to mind. they think things through.

[BlueStreak]

49. That video is powreful. Why would Obama want to give Romney a chance to weasel out of it?

Especially considering there is new video with Ryan saying almost the same thing. "You are all lazy rotten takers. Me with my entire career being on the government payroll, I'm a maker."

So what if Romney goes on Faux and tries to disown it? That video speaks for itself. It is not going away. It is obvious to anybody who watches it that is the REAL Mitt Romney. So get used to it Mitt. You own that one. Go ahead and bring it up at the next debate. It won't make any difference.

After all, look at what has happened. He's been trying to explain that away since it came out. It isn't going away.

By the way, out of principle, I didn't watch the interview on Faux. Somebody tell me. Did he apologize to the people he insulted? I know he said "I'm a bad boy." But did he apologize? Did he say anything like "I know I was completely wrong in everything I said that night. I understand how offensive that is to so many people. I apologize to everyone I hurt with my words. I am so sorry and I have learned an important lesson."

I'm betting that swine hasn't made a genuine apology to anyone in his entire life.

[CaptJasHook]

52. Enabled

Romney has been getting saved by his wealth and position since day one. He even weaseled his way out of the car crash in France where some one died.

This all seems like Sparta vs. Athens to me.

[HankyDub]

54. then they should have thought of this:

I'm sure many Americans are pleased to hear Mr. Romney walk this back. It was an offensive comment and I'm sure many people would appreciate it if he apologized for those comments.

Mr Romney has gotten quite a bit of bad press for this comment, and I'm sure he regrets that the video is out. But I'm just wondering if people believe that he was expressing his true sentiments in a private fundraiser or whether he is expressing his true sentiments now, on the debate stage in front of millions of the 47%.

Also, would Mr. Romney care to repudiate similar comments that are also on tape from his running mate?

That's just 5 minutes of me thinking about this. I'm sure the pro's could have worded it better.

Also, when Romney dropped that line about needing new accountants, that was the time to say that maybe that's the reason he decided not to release his income tax returns, because of all his bad accountants.

[BlueStreak]

58. If Obama had been snarky in the first debate, that would have been the story line, but now

NOW the story line is "Why was Obama so 'professorial'? Why didn't he throw some punches."

NOW Obama has carte blanche to brutalize Romney in the last 2 debates.

This is all exactly where it needs to be.

Zen. Romney won't figure out what happened to him for a year, if that.

[Cha]

64. Thanks, BlueStreak, good logical points.

I kept reading Wed night after debate.. "Why Didn't Obama bring up 47%s!?! Now, I know why..didn't give romney a chance to weasel out of it in front of 67 million people.

Surprised romney didn't bring it up himself..he was running the debate, wasn't he?

[BlueStreak]

70. Maybe somebody forgot to type it up in his notes.

[regnaD kciN]

2. That was what I expected...

Had the President mentioned it, Willard would have sprung the "I was wrong to say that" faux-remorse act, and it would have "humanized" him in front of 67 million viewers, plus defused the issue for the rest of the campaign.

[global1]

13. And That's Exactly Why Obama Played The Debate Like He Did...

He wasn't about to give Rmoney an opening to walk back the vile 47% comment. Now Rmoney is forced to walk it back post-debate and is really made to look like a weasel that it trying to save his own skin. Obama, the Dems, the Media and We The People should not let Rmoney get away with weaseling out of what we all know is how he really feels. We collectively have to put a stop to his lies. This is his big character flaw. This is what has got him through life this far. Living a life of privilege and lying, weaseling and buying his way out of trouble. He is not presidential material and he must be stopped. He must be put in his place and taught a lesson. He needs to be embarrassed to the point that he slinks away never to be recognized again.

[onecent]

24. I figured Obama KNEW what he was doing that night...and I think he was

TOTALLY on top of their game.....ABC and NBC are spinning crap like..."Why did Obama MISS such a
wonderful chance to speak and "he had his chance"..what do you think abouthim ruining it....fuckers..

[chimpymustgo]

27. That's the HUGE frustration about Obama's performance. He had a couple of dozen chances to drive a

stake through The Liar's dirty heart.

[WinkyDink]

29. I agree 100%. He is a bully SORELY in need of being taught a lesson!

[Mira]

46. Well said...

especially the "slinks away" part

[central scrutinizer]

59. Rmoney brought a Go Fish deck to a chess match

bwah hah hah

[Cha]

65. LOL The "Liars R Me" Special Edition nm

[uponit7771]

62. +1!

[KharmaTrain]

3. Keep Spiking The Ball, Stench...

This was to be expected...the corporate media is desperate for a "horse race"...and as long as Willard was upright and room temperature he was gonna win the debate. He'd been getting hammered for weeks due to his inept campaign. So, just like the team destined to lose 100 games, he rises up for one night and beats the first place club. It's his usual standing on third base and hitting a triple. If the corporate media paid attention to all his lies and flip flops the narrative would be different, but since they're desperate for ratings and "dish"...Willard is the winner. The problem is Willard really believes it.

This is all fine with me. I hope he gets over-confident...that surely will open this gaffe machine into more mistakes. It also sets a different stage for the remaining debates. Now he's the "masterdebater"...the expectations on the President are lower and hopefully he'll take advantage of this change and hammer the Bishop on all his lies.

The deal is even in "victory"...Willard's alienated people with his silly and unnecessary remarks about PBS (other than to intimidate Lehrer further)...as many people are focusing on that. In the end it'll be people remembering Willard debating "big bird" and not President Obama's lackluster performance...

[sammytko]

16. Maybe that's what the president wants, let mittwitt have one happy night and then

Blow him out of the water. Let him think he might win.

Like a cat plays with a defenseless baby mouse.

[KharmaTrain]

19. It's Not How You Start Its Where You Finish...

I think Willard let go with a lot of bombshells that can and should be used against him down the road. I'm hoping Stench thinks he's now master of the universe and walks into the next debate planning to replay the first debate. The unhinged...who've had nothing but bad news for months...jumped on this as signs of a pulse from the corpse. Willard is all over the place on so many issues now, my hopes is President Obama can just lead him into one corner after another...knock him off his script and that's when the Bishop starts to show the flop sweat and starts wagering $10k...

Cheers...

[OLDMDDEM]

22. Why not.........

Why not let Rmoney just open his mouth? When he does, the lies fall out. I realize that people will believe what is said, but once he begins the lies, all Obama has to do is the infamous Reagan line "There you go again" when responding to Mittens about what he was just saying. Call the liar a liar and let him seethe over it. Rmoney know what he is doing, and will keep doing it because it works. Obama has to pull a "Rick Perry" moment where he gets Rmoney riled up enough to come out of his space into Obama's space like he did during one of the debates. He lost his cool and was a blithering idiot after that.

[renate]

60. wouldn't it be great to see another moment like that?

Welcome to DU!

[OLDMDDEM]

75. It's funny

It's funny that the right keeps saying that Romney has momentum. Where? He blew his chances in the last debate. He had the Nixon sweating problem, he looked like a teenage bully that would cut someone's hair off for being gay, and he answered questions like an idiot.

Glad to be here at DU.

[JustAnotherGen]

74. Even better

"now - uh - now - you can't just make things up!"

Who said it ? President Obama. Now he just has to direct it at Romney.

[bigtree]

4. so where are the self-righteous critics who tore their hair out yesterday

. . . complaining that Obama didn't bring up the 47% remark of romney's?? (They run the Obama 47% ad constantly, during the day, here in Md. It's VERY effective.)

[exboyfil]

12. I thought that was the smartest thing Obama did in the debate

It does not look Presidential. On the other hand Obama really needed to respond to the $90B in subsidies to green energy being a waste. This is one of the cornerstones of Obama's vision of the future. Another thing would have been a better explanation of the Medicare cut argument - I am still trying to work my way through that. Finally when Romney said you can't balance the budget with tax increases - Obama should have mentioned that fellow before the idiot who was president - Bill Clinton - that is exactly what happened. Deficits before and deficits after (even before the crash) with shrinking deficits coming close to balanced in the middle when the tax rates were higher.

[Cosmocat]

14. There was some low hanging fruit

that the president left out there, but I would not have used the 47% remark, either.

Now, Mittens saying his answer for medical care for people who did not have insurance was the Emergency Room? Would have noted that for sure.

There are 1000s of clips of Romney screaming "WE NEED TO CUT TAXES ON THE JOB CREATORS" out there from the primary this spring alone. Should have hit him with that, with the campaign set to release 100 clips backing it up, when he did his etch a sketch on taxes.

[oswaldactedalone]

25. I admit I was wrong

Kick ass in the next two debates Obama team. Etch a Sketch is still out there though.

[WinkyDink]

30. A criticism doesn't make one "self-righteous".

[liberal N proud]

5. If it was that important to Romney, why didn't he bring it up?

He could have thrown that in with the rest of his pack of lies.

[kalli007]

6. That would have made him look dumb....

You know he just KNEW Obama was going to pounce on it - hell I thought he was!!! Now glad he did not because it is causing Robme to have to bring it up on his own, making his "so called apology" look as fake as his univision tan.

[gkhouston]

7. And he wanted to get it out so badly that he ran right to FoxNews to add to his lie-alanche. n/t

[get the red out]

8. Wouldn't that hurt him with Fox News viewership?

Unless they are all out at the bank checking to make sure their social security deposit came in when it airs.

[kalli007]

9. Oh noes!!! Just listening to CNN with Soledad this am

and some D bag Rethug congressman fully explained to us peasants how during a campaign it is acceptable to say one thing during the primaries and another during the general election in order to garner more votes. I can see clearly now.....I was so confused

[gkhouston]

11. Why yes, I always think it's a good idea to lie during job interviews, don't you? n/t

[Rustycup]

18. But only if your republican

Obama after is responsible for actions people took forty years ago that happen to live in the same area of Chicago as him (Ayers). Republicans never took responsibility for their actions but want us to. They never see themselves as the bullies only the victims.

[get the red out]

23. Values

The Republican philosophy is that if you say the word "values" enough you don't have to actually have any.

[gkhouston]

10. Clearly, he thought distancing himself from that remark would help more than it hurts.

Only time will tell if he was believed and/or correct.

[Indpndnt]

40. If Willard had made the original statement about the 47% at a rally, he MIGHT be believed now.

By some, anyway. But to be caught saying it in secret to the Billionaire Buffoon's Club? And to suddenly say he was wrong only AFTER being crucified for it? No way. Not by anyone outside of his rabid base.

[GoCubsGo]

15. They're just now figuring that out?

Willard must have been watching that "South Park" episode where Cartman tries to atone for all of the horrible things he's done:
http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/103830/make-it-rightmontage

[vaberella]

17. People wanted Obama to bring it up too. Romney looks more like a fool b/c O didn't bring it up. n/t

[ProSense]

20. Now the idiot is apologizing

Score one for Obama.

Romney On 47 Percent: ‘I Said Something That’s Just Completely Wrong’
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021475193

[Astazia]

21. Zinger Alert!!!

NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




Prepare for round two...The President sized up his opponent & now look out for rounds two & three...& lest us not forget Biden & Lyan'.

[LynneSin]

26. I figured there was a reason for Obama to not mention the video

We have to to stop playing Armchair Quarterback and start recognizing that Obama knows what he's doing.

Visually at first Obama may have seemed a bit boring but dig deep you'll find the guy knew what he was doing and did it well

[WinkyDink]

32. "We have to to stop playing Armchair Quarterback ...." I think we have every right to do so.

[LynneSin]

33. As long as we recognize that we're doing it

[Indpndnt]

41. Where did anyone say we couldn't? Just that we obviously don't have access to all the cards.

The President defeated Hillary to get where he is and that is a huge deal. I think he can handle a dumbass like Willard.

[BumRushDaShow]

28. Bingo!

For all the DU hand-wringers, this has now forced Rmoney to throw his book under the bus and drive off on his own "Apology Tour".

[Bernardo de La Paz]

31. See! Obama's too smart to play Romney's game.

Romney congratulates himself on having graduated to Checkers from Tiddlywinks. Obama smiles and continues to play Chess.

[LynneSin]

34. Romney's biggest mistake was to mention about all the zingers he memorized

Obama forced his hand and Romney was not able to get those zingers in there.

[Indpndnt]

42. Yeah, that and mentioning his biggest campaign mistake right after his only 'triumph.'

What. An. Idiot.

[Cha]

66. Except the ones about

Big Bird and his sons are Liars.

Those were Real Zingers

[gordianot]

35. The thing about apologies is you do not have to accept them.

[katmondoo]

36. Also Obama said nothing that could be used against him

Mitt on gave Obama lots to use against him. I like the two Mitts, one that showed up at the debate the other hiding.

[Catherine Vincent]

37. good call on the president's part

But wasn't it Candy Crowley who said this, who btw, is the next moderator. Bleh!

[meadowlark5]

38. Suck it Christ Matthews and Ed Schulz

Those two whiny babies after the debate on Weds night - so outraged, so disappointed. "Why didn't he bring up the 47%" they cried

Maybe Obama didn't perform the way everyone wanted, but Plouffe and his advisors knew that Romney's camp would be preparing for that issue - it's been a central topic for a couple of weeks. They knew Romney would try and weasel out of it in front of 67mil people. They didn't give him the satisfaction. Fantastic!!

[nadine_mn]

39. exactly what I said in another post that got lost in the debate shuffle

Last edited Fri Oct 5, 2012, 10:50 PM - Edit history (1)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021466581

there is good reason Obama didn't bring it up!

edit to correct link

[Indpndnt]

43. Yeah, there were a lot of great points made that quickly got buried in the post-debate deluge.

[Cha]

67. That link is to DU Homepage, nadine.. I wanted to read what you said :) nm

[nadine_mn]

73. Ahh thanks - I corrected it!

Thanks for letting me know

[liberalmuse]

44. Three. Dimensional. Chess.

Also a damn good gut instinct. That's our Prez!

[The Wizard]

45. And the entire propaganda operation

is reporting that the debate changed the political landscape, and we now have a close race. The numbers indicate otherwise. For now Romney got a 1 point bump. When the social media hammers him for the next couple of days he could start going south again.
The media needs a close race to sell advertising, and as long as the media is profit motivated rather than fact motivated it's nothing more or less than propaganda.

[davidpdx]

47. I agree, I think not bringing up at the debate was wise

It prevented Romney from getting his so called "apology" out to a wider audience. If Romney wants to apologize make him pay for it in airtime.

[liberalgunwilltravel]

48. Is he lying now or was he lying then?

So after a nice ride into work on the motorcycle I got to thinking the best tact for the Obama campaign to take, both on the campaign trail and in the next debate. It can all be summed up in a single sentence. "Governor Romney, are you lying now or were you lying then?" Every time his tries to change his policy position in public or at the next debate, the television ads and the President should call him out on it. There are years worth of documented policy Mitt/flops. Just start making a long list of 30 second spots highlighting a few in each one and ending with the sentence. "Is he lying now, or was he lying then?"

It should be relentless, withering, and unapologetic.

So those are my nice post-ride thoughts.

[Historic NY]

50. Williard shot himself again in the foot....

he brought it up and walked it back so once again its in the news cycle. I sure we will hear more in the next week or so.

[City Lights]

51. You weren't lying in the 47% video, Willard.

You're lying in your new video. And your attempt to distance yourself from your true beliefs is pathetic. You suck.

[CoffeeCat]

53. Obama knew this....and that's why he didn't mention the 47 percent...

Why give Romney a perfect public-relations opportunity? Romney had an audience of 60 million. He had rehearsed and rehearsed and rehearsed.

Obama denied Romney a golden opportunity, and now Romney is scrambling like a pathetic fool to get out his crappy spin.

What a goofball. The 47-percent comments were all over the media for three weeks. The subject dominated the media and drove Romney's campaign off a cliff. He didn't have a response then???

He's got Kay Bailey Hutchison and other surrogates disseminating his bizarre lines.

Unfortunately, MSNBC played Romney's clips--where he went on the Hannity show--and disavowed his 47-percent comments.

[TwilightGardener]

56. Right--unlike Obama, Mittens doesn't actually have a JOB, all he does

is rehearse and practice for the debates, besides occasional campaign stops. He was almost certainly itching to make some sort of dramatic mea culpa that would humanize him and allow him to move past the fact that he literally hates half of America.

[central scrutinizer]

61. And 47% is all over the media again as the pundits ask:

Why didn't the Prez bring that up? Well played, sir! Get others to do the dirty work for you.

[valerief]

55. I think the President looked down instead of at Rmoney, because he knows

Rmoney likes his "boys" to look at him when he speaks. It probably pissed off Rmoney more when the President didn't comply.

[Generic Other]

57. I think Obama keeps a cool head

when all around him (including most of us) are shaking our fists in anger. Cool heads prevail.

[Neutralator]

63. Obama has opened two battle fronts -- One on the debate floor and the other outside of it.

Whereas Romney is using same attack plan on both fronts except of baiting Obama with bunch of lies and trying to change the narrative. Obama carefully avoided and didn't fall into the trap. Also he he didn't lose his attacking ammunition. Behind the doors, GOP-Robme must be wrecking their brain to come up entirely new set of attack plan.

Obama just needs to stay focused, stay on the message, keep pounding Robme in the same area until he cracks. No need for cheap tactical shots.

IMO, Romney is being slowly outmaneuvered into a corner.

[Major Hogwash]

68. So Mitt didn't get to "make it right" in front of 67 million viewers of the debate.

That's so sad.

[Raine]

69. Inspite of what "know it all" Tweety thinks Obama KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING! nt

[Doctor_J]

71. Bullshit

Some DUers buy the admin's spin just like FoxNation believes theirs.

Rmoney trying to walk back that insult would have been another lob pitch for Obama

"Really? Your statement that you care nothing for half of America is now just a mis-speak? You really expect us to just act like it never happened? You already insulted their work ethic. Please don't insult our intelligence too."

HIs debate performance was horrible. The 9-D chess argument is bullshit. He showed critical lack of leadership. Get over it.

Edit: I am still waiting for another apologist to tell us how his constant looking down was some sort of secret "I got this" signal, or all all of the "umms" and "ahhs" were to throw Willard off of his game.

[andym]

72. I was sure Romney wanted it, so that he could disavow in front of 60 million people! nt.