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Samantha

(9,314 posts)
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 09:19 PM Oct 2012

Ask any Olympic champ -- timing is everything

After listening to a lot of commentary today on President's Obama's response last night to the chronically lying Mitt Romney, I suddenly started thinking about the timing issue constraints within a debate format. I do think President Obama was stunned at the magnitude of prevarication Romney espoused, and in one moment's time he had to make a strategy decision: respond or ignore.

I believe he decided to ignore the lies because he sensed it was a debate trap. If he had used his allotted two minutes to indulge in a campaign of accusing his opponent of lying, he would lose the opportunity to explain his position on the issue under discussion. It was more important to President Obama to preserve that opportunity to make important points he had chosen to share with the listening viewership rather than sacrifice that opportunity to succumb to a Romney debate trap. Had President Obama gone with the first option, the option of responding to the lies, Mitt Romney would have simply countered with accusations that President Obama himself was distorting the truth to engage in character assassination of his opponent. It would have been fruitless for President Obama to so engage in a tit-for-tat upon that debate stage, one he could not win, and the choice of indulging would have resulted in President Obama's failure to submit points for consideration on the topic at hand he considered important.

Obama also knew the fact-checkers would emerge that evening and in subsequent days, and Mitt's posturing as a populist candidate, a man determined to protect the interests of the middle class and the poor, would wilt with the light of the new day.

So in this regard, I believe President Obama in refusing to be baited by Romney and reserving his time for answers to the debate topics instead made the strategically correct decision.

Timing is everything in matters such as this, and President Obama chose to use his time wisely rather than to be baited by Romney's trap. Obama's strategic choice made Romney a Chump and Obama a Champ. Why do I say this? Because in listening to today's commentary, a great number of people are calling Romney a liar and still cheering for President Obama.

So what is next for Romney?

Hang a gold Olympic medal around that man's neck. Fastest liar in a two minute sprint on political record. Inscribe the gold medal "Liar in Chief" which is far more appropriate for him than the title Commander-in-Chief. Reserve that title for the smartest participant in the debate competition last night.

Sam

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Ask any Olympic champ -- timing is everything (Original Post) Samantha Oct 2012 OP
K/R Don't dignify lies with a response, let the cur lie freely. NYC_SKP Oct 2012 #1
You have got it! Samantha Oct 2012 #3
and TRIPPING works upi402 Oct 2012 #2
And so it did! Samantha Oct 2012 #5
Hope for the Rope-A-Dope! upi402 Oct 2012 #11
That would be great, but it is also entirely possible that the one Samantha Oct 2012 #12
I think you're probably quite right in your assessment of what happened alcibiades_mystery Oct 2012 #4
I think the situation was as many have described it Samantha Oct 2012 #6
Similar thoughts here from a post on a similar topic... landolfi Oct 2012 #7
Generally speaking, with the passage of 24 hours time Samantha Oct 2012 #8
And that's what really matters. landolfi Oct 2012 #10
Yes, that is what matters Samantha Oct 2012 #13
They're not doing the clean and jerk arboretum Oct 2012 #9
 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
1. K/R Don't dignify lies with a response, let the cur lie freely.
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 09:23 PM
Oct 2012

Kick his ass over it later, on your terms, Mr. President!

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
3. You have got it!
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 09:31 PM
Oct 2012

He tried to play President Obama for a chump, and it backfired! Thank you so much for your response.

Sam

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
5. And so it did!
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 09:35 PM
Oct 2012

Romney today is the victim of his own political trap backfiring. Can't you see the ads now in progress the Obama team is putting together for the swing states? Mitt versus Mitt: If elected which version will play in the Oval Office? And then they will play the Before videos and the After. It will have the effect of showing that Mitt Romney is just who we have always thought he was, a candidate who can spin on a dime if and when necessary on any position at any time.

Sam

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
12. That would be great, but it is also entirely possible that the one
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 02:10 PM
Oct 2012

dealing the knock-out punch to Romney will be Romney himself, particularly if that cheating scandal turns out to be unquestionably true. I think it just might be but am in wait to see mode. Just got home and have not read all of the reports yet.

Thanks for posting on my thread.

Sam

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
4. I think you're probably quite right in your assessment of what happened
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 09:34 PM
Oct 2012

Either Obama's team had a plan or Obama on the spot decided to ignore the lies rather than engage in tit-for-tat.

Whether that was a good decision is another matter, but I can see it unfolding precisely as you described. Nicely done.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
6. I think the situation was as many have described it
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 09:40 PM
Oct 2012
Everyone was stunned from the start of the debate at Romney's about-face on every issue. I think Obama immediately knew what Mitt was doing. He refused to play. And that is exactly why when Mitt kept staring at him as if to intimidate, Obama kept his head down and his eyes on his notes. He was determined to remain focused on what he wanted to say as opposed to being knocked off his game.

Mitt underestimated his opponent. President Obama is not just any other political animal. This is a man who knows what he is doing. He kept his composure throughout the charade and walked away without a bruise on him. He knew in the aftermath of the debate the fact-checkers would take care of any unfinished business.

Sam

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
8. Generally speaking, with the passage of 24 hours time
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 10:57 PM
Oct 2012

people are having second thoughts about who actually won that debate. It is a good thing.

Thanks for posting on my thread and sharing that link.

Sam

landolfi

(234 posts)
10. And that's what really matters.
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 11:48 PM
Oct 2012

This is a marathon, not a sprint. It's amazing to me that the people who think Obama didn't do well still think he's right. He took the high road, and it will pay off in the long run.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
13. Yes, that is what matters
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 02:14 PM
Oct 2012

And I am glad some people recognize it. But we still have the worrisome problem of those voting machines with former Bain associates connected to their ownership out there in the swing states. That to me is a huge problem.

Sam

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