Have they calmed down on MSNBC yet?

[PlanetBev]

I want to watch my regular line up tonight, but I'm not in the mood to hear a continuous drumbeat of of how terrible Obama did.

[BumRushDaShow]

1. Tweety was still a disgrace but Bashir and Sharpton were fine

I expect Ed will be a mess too, but I think that Rachael and Lawrence will use their intellect instead of brute emotion.

[RichGirl]

9. What a twit!

Matthews was actually questioning whether Obama should be re-elected based on one F..ing debate! Obama was suppose to behave like a rabid dog instead of maintaining the dignity of the presidency!!! I couldn't watch more than a minute and won't watch it until he calms down.

[zbdent]

27. The crotch-sniffing Tweety showed up in the nick of time.

I doubt he'll stay in the "liberal" camp much longer ...

Romney's one "flight-suit with a sock in the crotch" away from having Tweety's blond (gray) hairs in his magic underpants ...

[Tarheel_Dem]

55. I removed both Tweety & Ed from my DVR lineup, and I only came back to them recently. It's for....

good this time. I don't need that crap. Both are too driven by emotion, and the sporting nature of politics than actual policy. I didn't watch Rachel or Lawrence last night, but it sounds like they've both returned to their usual sensible analysis.

[ashling]

22. It will take the Tweet a while to calm down

he's too full of himself.

[CTyankee]

52. He looked like his old self to me on his show at 5 pm here!

I think the jobs numbers calmed him down considerably...but really, the guy should have chill pills available when necessary...good god, man...

[still_one]

51. Actually Ed was quite good yesterday

[onecent]

2. PoliticsNation with Al Sharpton is AMAZING...

They are getting it as well as Now with Alex...that show was incredible...
TOTAL support of Obama and approval on everything he did last night.

I hope Tweetie comes to his senses.

By the way the reason for total approval is because both of these shows are
introducing line by line ALL THE LIES by Romney and Basir (is that his name?) that
show said that if Obama had tried to debate Romney last night and argue with him
they'd still be on the stage... Oh that show today was INCREDIBLE. I am so psyched now.

[Indpndnt]

29. Martin Bashir. You were thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis close.

And you summed up today's MSNBC coverage very well.

[goclark]

61. Yes, now I have him on "Record"

[goclark]

39. Rev.Al was on top of it!

and Tweetie was down to earth a bit as well.

Watching Rachael today ~ she is doing a good job.

[CTyankee]

53. Chris Hayes today at noon was great! He's a wonderful sane voice. I plan on watching

him tomorrow (Saturday) at 8 am. I know he'll be great and level headed and his guests the same...no drama, all good wonkery...I just love it!

[rustydog]

3. Same here. Seeing people I respect so highly go into panic mode over a debate?

I thought they would be smarter than that.

[bluestateguy]

4. I skipped Tweety Bird, Schultz and Sharpton

I will try Maddow and O'Donnell tonight, but I will have my hand close to the clicker.

I will sail against the wind and push against the echo chamber: Obama won the debate.

[fanfan0711]

21. same here

I don't think Obama won, but goodness these people in panic are awful. I turned the TV off last night as soon as I realized what the narrative was going to be and haven't turned it back on since. I will watch Rachel and Lawrence with caution. Chris is EXTREMELY emotional! That man only has extremes, so I won't watch him for days.

[Whisp]

47. ''but I will have my hand close to the clicker. ''

sing it sister/brother. lol. I haven't tuned in since last night after the debate. I will be watching here for when it is safe to do so again. But I will remember.

[WI_DEM]

5. I'm sure Ed will still be complaining.

[GoCubsGo]

19. His short were still in a wad during his radio show today.

Even Mike Papantonio couldn't really talk him down. I don't expect him to be any calmer tonight.

[Indpndnt]

30. He's complaining, but he's calmed down and is happy with Obama's speeches today.

There's hope for Ed, yet, now that he's stepped away from the imaginary ledge.

[Cleita]

38. He actually opened his show calling Romney a big fat liar. n/t

[madaboutharry]

6. Things probably won't be copacetic until O'Donnell's show

[Mike Daniels]

7. Matthews was suffering from the vapors

Utter hysterics through the first 20 minutes. That said Ron Reagan also called Obama's performance inexplicable.

[murielm99]

16. I think this is just Tweety.

He can be great. He seems to be ethical. But he goes into panic mode. I do it myself, so I get it.

Overall, I may joke about Tweety, but I like him.

[Mike Daniels]

31. Oh I like Matthews more often then not...

but it seemed like both Rendell and Reagan were matching him in his fatalistic POV.

[Indpndnt]

8. Bashir and Sharpton were level-headed and excellent.

Tweety, not so much. But at least he's laughing at his own over-the-top outrage. I refuse to watch Ed tonight. I might catch Rachel, though.

[ailsagirl]

35. Don't forget O'Donnell!!

[Indpndnt]

37. I bailed before he weighed in.

But I'll be watching him tonight for sure. I heard he was great last night.

Oh, and I did, in fact, watch Ed tonight, unlike what I said earlier. He did well. Much better, at any rate.

[ailsagirl]

40. Maybe I'll watch Ed on a later broadcast, then

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O'Donnell, Mr. Cool, will not rant and rave. I look forward to hearing his program (after tonight he won't be on until Monday night, you know-- I always forget that!)

It's wise to give wide berth to those who may upset us. Even if they are on our side. I thought Martin did a superb job today-- he wasn't phased by the situation-- in fact, he turned it around nicely.

And Al Sharpton, of course.

[Indpndnt]

43. Ed seemed to want to be talked down from panic. Tweety was enjoying his own ranting.

Although, he did kind of laugh at himself for it. But, yeah, I would avoid Tweety for a bit. Ed is getting over himself.

[ailsagirl]

50. O'Donnell & The Last Word on tonight (special edition)

LO is normally off on Fridays...

[Hamlette]

10. I was just about to start a thread asking if it was safe to watch Matthews tonight

guess not, but I'll check out Martin B (can't spell) and Rachel unless someone here tells me not to.

[PlanetBev]

11. Thanks for the heads up, people

I'm trying to get my groove back here.

[madrchsod]

12. probably not...

[classof56]

13. I started to watch Chris Matthews, couldn't deal with it, now listening to Randi Rhodes.

Maybe I'll give Ed a shot, might switch to Eliot Spitzer if Ed's still on a tear, but I'm counting on Rachel and Lawrence to be the cooler heads tonight. Glad I have a remote!

OBAMA/BIDEN 2012

[Brilly]

14. They are totally losing it!!

Watched Rev. Al and his show was just fine. I guess he sees stuff better and clearer then the others.
I will try Lawrence's show but otherwise I will be taking a break until they smarten up!!!
I can't believe that is all it took, one debate, to having them ready to jump ship!!! The Repugs sure don't have any trouble staying with their guy and look what all lies etc. he put them through...
Wake up people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[BumRushDaShow]

26. "The Repugs sure don't have any trouble staying with their guy"

Exactly! It took many many flip flops and gaffes and pretzel twists by both Rmoney and Lyin' Ryan before Joe Scarborough finally had had enough and threw up his hands. Meanwhile, weather vane Tweety throws a temper tantrum like a 2-year old any time President Obama doesn't act like the school yard bullies that Tweety admires and embraces.

And welcome to DU!

[Tarheel_Dem]

59. Tweety's obnoxious, but he's no fool. His tantrums get him & his show talked about elsewhere. One

of the shows on NPR played his post debate audio, and I'm sure they're not the only ones. Tweets knows exactly what he's doing.

[Blue Idaho]

15. No sense watching right now

It only raises their ratings and encourages their chicken littleness.

[marions ghost]

17. Tweety still foaming at the mouth...

OK I know he's frustrated & all but...

He dutifully did a little sketch about Big Bird--the #1 biggest tweet in political history (keep tweeting...) according to Tweety

[Lex]

18. This is why these folks on TV are NOT in charge of a campaign. Totally panicked and frightened.

Who would even want to get stuck on an elevator with these people. Jeebus.

[Connie_Corleone]

20. I'm skipping all the shows except Lawrence.

I'll dvr Lawrence. I'm watching Scandal tonight.

[OldDem2012]

23. I watched Al last night and today...thought he did pretty well....

...but Tweety and Big Ed will never get another second of attention from me.

Those two acted like spoiled brats. I personally hope a lot of people on the left boycott their shows for a while so that that they both understand to whom he's talking.

[HipChick]

24. Mad Ed is doing a post-game analysis..

[Lex]

25. Has he calmed down yet?

Christ, last night he lost his mind.

[Indpndnt]

34. Much calmer and happy with Obama's speeches today.

Thank goodness, because he was acting like a spoiled brat last night. He's still complaining, but he's more willing to discuss things without ACTING LIKE THE WORLD WAS EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENDING WTFWTFWTF!!!!!

[ailsagirl]

41. He was furious

I think he goes out on the stump for the President on his own-- I really respect and admire him for that. Perhaps he feels he has a little more vested in Obama's doing well. Not sure. But we have to MOVE ON!!

[tavernier]

28. Yeah, that's always been our greatest downfall...

Repubs will gather around their chosen candidate and lockstep every inch of the way.

As Will Rogers once said, "I don't belong to any organized political party. I'm a democrat."

I've worked with our local party for years and very often it is much like herding cats. We are all very opinionated, snort. Wouldn't have it any other way.

[ailsagirl]

42. LOL!!

As Will Rogers once said, "I don't belong to any organized political party. I'm a democrat."

[ailsagirl]

32. I hear that Ed is still mad and probably Chris

But I think that Sharpton, Maddow, and O'Donnell will be just fine

[fadedrose]

33. Try CNN

[TeamsterDem]

36. Bashir is hammering home that all Mitt did was lie. So Bashir at least is calm. :)

[Whisp]

44. I'm not going there until it is safe.

the debate is secondary to me now.

what a bunch of hyperactive idiots.

[JI7]

45. what they should have done was go through all of the lies Romney told

Obama couldn't know before which lies Romney would tell plus he had to defend himself and what he wanted with time limits.

but they what Romney said. they should have shown clips and other things of him saying different.

[gkhouston]

46. I'm watching Maddow on DVR and she seems to have regained her equilibrium.

She's going down the list of past first Presidential debates where incumbents faced challengers. Turns out that incumbents are rarely considered the winners of their first debates. Maybe it has something to do with the expectations game?

[just1voice]

48. Ya know, MSNBC is a propaganda network

The sad thing is, most people only get it when the MSMedia says something they don't like. Propaganda, is by definition an emotional response medium, not a rational thought medium. I'll go ahead and post a definition again although I'm sure it'll be completely ignored by most:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda

---Propaganda is a form of communication that is aimed at influencing the attitude of a community toward some cause or position by presenting only one side of an argument. Propaganda is usually repeated and dispersed over a wide variety of media in order to create the chosen result in audience attitudes.

As opposed to impartially providing information, propaganda, in its most basic sense, presents information primarily to influence an audience. Propaganda often presents facts selectively (thus possibly lying by omission) to encourage a particular synthesis, or uses loaded messages to produce an emotional rather than rational response to the information presented. The desired result is a change of the attitude toward the subject in the target audience to further a political or religious agenda. Propaganda can be used as a form of political warfare.---

[Raine]

49. Tweety is still a raving lunatic. I don't think he'll be safe to watch for several days at

the earliest. I can't stand to listen to someone whose supposedly on our side tearing our president apart like that.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

54. Yeah...."supposedly on our side"

I suppose you missed the part where he was angry based on the fact Rmoney was lying his ass off and the President was just shrugging about it!

[Raine]

56. Yeah I guess I did because I couldn't stomach his

ranting another second and so I clicked him off. I didn't bother with him today, apparently my bad, shame on me.

[Tarheel_Dem]

57. Tweety & Ed show the danger of smoking one's own supply. Their egos are off the charts. They fancy

themselves as "leaders of political thought" on the left. I gave both of them another chance because of the excellent and uplifting convention coverage, but I removed them from my lineup after their disgraceful post-debate hysterics. Ed is by far worse than Tweety. I dumped him before during the recall. He was insisting that Obama "get involved", or he'd lose WI. This may not be the right line of work for him. His ego and emotions are far too fragile.

[tarheelsunc]

58. Well we know his political beliefs are fragile

He went from being a conservative early in life to being someone who brands himself as a liberal leader of sorts. I can't say I've ever really seen any other political commentator have such a drastic belief shift.

[Tarheel_Dem]

60. Well, there's Cenk Ugyur. And I have limited tolerance for both of them. Randi Rhodes always.....

maintained that Big Ed was a front running phoney. He fancied himself a Rush Limbaugh type, but because the right already had Rush, they didn't need his clone. Sounds like Big Ed took a turn to launch his radio career, and was offered a pretty sweet deal for his conversion.