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Hydra

(14,459 posts)
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 06:55 PM Oct 2012

Here was my take on the debate last night, as a looney lefty

1. Mitt Romney lost almost immediately- the first time he talked over Jim L and the President. That was before he casually lied about everything and lost control several times just to make it a complete loss.

I'm sure his base loved it, but I saw it as yet a new low in our country- we can't even have a PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE without a dirty fight starting.

2. President Obama was lucky to have such a lousy opponent, because while he did an admirable job of keeping to the facts and even effectively pushing back occasionally, he let Mitt beat on him about the Green jobs and let Mitt make the Republican platform (of insanity) look reasonable.

3. President Obama is greatly handicapped both in message and in substance because he believes in many of the fallacies Mitt Romney and the Republicans are trying to sell.

This last point troubles me the most. I feel like the President is like the Chicago School of Economics, constantly clinging to the idea that if they just continue to hold to their ideology in the face of all facts, that Capitalism will indeed be proven to be some sort of perfect divinity made flesh.

Why does this bother me? Because I'm not worried that Romney the thief, liar and overall Republican will win this race. If he does, it will be by diebold or treason, and we didn't stop the last 4 Republicans who did that. No, I'm worried that we'll stay the course on the idea that Gov't is not the solution, even when all the evidence says the opposite is true.

4. Obama clearly won by any sane metric, but we didn't see incumbent Senator Obama's triumphant return. I think that's what most of us were secretly hoping for.

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Here was my take on the debate last night, as a looney lefty (Original Post) Hydra Oct 2012 OP
Capitalism in its pure form does work Angry Dragon Oct 2012 #1
In what alternate universe? Certainly not on this planet. retread Oct 2012 #2
I said pure form Angry Dragon Oct 2012 #4
Our form supports monopolies who crush competition and raise prices. SharonAnn Oct 2012 #3
So you are saying it is not capitalism ......... I agree Angry Dragon Oct 2012 #5
This is capitalism's natural evolution Hydra Oct 2012 #6
Grow up! arboretum Oct 2012 #7

Angry Dragon

(36,693 posts)
1. Capitalism in its pure form does work
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 07:09 PM
Oct 2012

However, that is not what we have in this country.
We have people at the top taking credit for something they do not create.

SharonAnn

(13,778 posts)
3. Our form supports monopolies who crush competition and raise prices.
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 07:40 PM
Oct 2012

It's happened over and over again.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
6. This is capitalism's natural evolution
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 11:32 PM
Oct 2012

So, in a way, this is already "pure" capitalism. Theft and fraud are quite often the most efficient way to increase your share of the pie, and then lying and saying you built it all yourself is an efficient way to protect yourself from retribution.

Its just not so fun being the person who is getting ripped off.

 

arboretum

(27 posts)
7. Grow up!
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 11:41 PM
Oct 2012

Nothing matters other than who gets the most votes.

The most votes are amassed by taking avantage of immediate concerns.

Immediate concerns are perceived.

Perceptions are manipulated.

Manipulations are the core of politics.

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