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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAm I the only one disgusted with how rude Rmoney was to Jim Lehrer?
It seriously bugged me.
I'm not talking about the "I am gonna cancel PBS" crap, but just how rude he was in general.
One of the many, many things that made me mad about how he behaved -- even while trying to be nice he demonstrated his dislike of the poor -- but the sheer rudeness bothered me terribly. Lehrer deserves far more respect than what he was shown by that lying idiot. Because I HAVE seen the budget he's campaigned on. I saw him tell middle class people in Ohio not to expect tax relief. I remember that 47% video. He's a lair.
But apparently not even Jim Lehrer makes enough money for him to show him respect.
LiberalLoner
(9,762 posts)azmom
(5,208 posts)by his treatment of senior citizen Jim Lehrer. President Obama on the other hand handled himself with class. How he was able to keep his cool, I will never know. President Obama is cool and classy.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)struck him. like the third time he has mentioned it.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)'Course a lot of DU'ers are more interested in crashing down on Lehrer for not telling Romney to shut his pie hole, or correcting him (i.e., for not being a rude ass to the candidate or playing ball for the president). But my opinion, it was ROMNEY who was fucking up left and right.
Indpndnt
(2,391 posts)And that's what counts.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)I like Lehrer, but he let Romney take over. Lehrer was treated poorly, but it was his job to see that the rules were followed.
I was very disappointed in Lehrer, but not at all surprised the stuffed-shirt CEO Romney acted the way he did.
blm
(113,082 posts)Especially being such a man of privilege and great wealth.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)But that's when he should have held his hands up and said "no more" and made Romney stop his flaunting of the forum rules.
Retrograde
(10,143 posts)He wants the presidency really badly - not to serve his country but to serve his ego - and he probably feels like this is his last chance gambit to get it. The bullying and intimidation tactics have worked for him throughout his business career, so why stop now? Nobody questions the boss: he gets to talk, others listen and nod.
I hope his intimidation tactics sway the last undecided voters to vote for Obama: if Romney treats the president this way, how is he going to treat them?
treestar
(82,383 posts)Mittens should not be rewarded with victory of any kind for his behavior - it's bad enough that Bush won those two terms, as that inspired Republicans to think their bullying behavior is the same as some kind of strength.
underthematrix
(5,811 posts)a sociopath. A nutjob pretending to care about the American peeps.
Lugnut
(9,791 posts)Jim Lehrer is accustomed to moderating debates between gentlemen. Mitt Romney is no gentleman.
Mitt Romney is no gentleman.
jsr
(7,712 posts)Typical arrogant asshole with money.
pscot
(21,024 posts)As a debate moderator he sucks.
Lehrer didn't do his job either.
pf99
(259 posts)I posted the same thing last night!
Glad to see someone agrees!
FSogol
(45,514 posts)I don't get it.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)MadHound
(34,179 posts)One of the reasons why I simply don't understand this mass media/Democratic freakout. Romney clearly came across as a whiny, spoiled little rich boy, and that's going to hurt his chances a lot with a lot of undecideds.
Indpndnt
(2,391 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)was if Mittwit had been wearing a shock collar. Not even Chimpy acted anywhere near that boorish in a debate.
tavernier
(12,396 posts)Perhaps we should flood the internet with suggestions that during the next debate Mitt wear a shock collar so that he can be controlled. Although I read that Candy Crowley is going to be the next moderator, and if she follows her past political inclinations, she will give up the microphone to him more than willingly. But if she starts to uncross her legs, I'm turning off the set.
elleng
(131,051 posts)and ANY moderator is entitled to respect. The forum deserves respect. WE deserve respect. POTUS was probably pretty surprised at rmoney's rudeness too, and thinking about what he'll do the next time. Wonder of format will be changed.
gkhouston
(21,642 posts)And if you want to go for pure evil, get a panel of fact-checkers at the debate. For every lie a candidate tells, the fact-checkers get to explain it on the spot... using the liar's debate time.
elleng
(131,051 posts)Learned next debate is Town Hall format, so We the People will ask questions, and maybe follow up or at least voice their displeasure w 'answers.'
Rainforestgoddess
(436 posts)type system, where each candidate has three big X's behind them. If they lie three times, BLAT! They're out.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)No arguing, no pleading, just a clock that turns the mic off after the allotted time.
When the next question is asked, the clock is started again and the mic is on till it runs out.
PA Democrat
(13,225 posts)He is entitled to live by his own set of rules with no regard to the feelings and well-being of other people. Paying your fair share of taxes, telling the truth, caring about the lives of less fortunate people are not things Mitt thinks he needs to do.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)I hope they shut anyone down that tries to do what that asshole Romney did.
He must be taught that this behavior won't be tolerated in the future. Two more debates and Romney will be a footnote in history anyway.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)sigh
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)freetrucker53
(36 posts)There have been reports of how Romney was a bully in college. Some said people do change, which is true, but it looks like Romney hasn't changed.
City Lights
(25,171 posts)I thought he was condescending to Obama and Lehrer. He is a classless jerk.
fleur-de-lisa
(14,628 posts)I don't know which was worse . . .
JHB
(37,161 posts)Perfect way to surround yourself with yes-men.
adigal
(7,581 posts)and put tape on his mouth, and given him a haircut.
It is one thing to be anxious to speak, but Romney thought that his rights were more important that the POTUS' rights. I have never seen such behavior in a debate before. Talk about bringing down what it acceptable!! Congressmen are more polite in their debates than Romney was.
RUDE ASSHOLE.
BenzoDia
(1,010 posts)but I doubt he closed the empathy gap.
DearAbby
(12,461 posts)He really seemed Hyper to me...like a buzz from Red Bull or something...remember they had a blurb about Romney not being able to sleep the night before because of freight trains?
Any Gaffes they could have said it was the RED BULL....Also that tape coming out the night before showing what they saw as an angry scary black man...If Obama had attacked the lies with the same passion, this would have been "SEE WE TOLD YOU MOMENT"
The bases are pretty locked in. What this may have caused was a dampening of enthusiasm. Obama was playing for the soft middle, and independents. Who have in the past been very skittish about extremes, right or left. I think Obama did a great job last night considering all the above....he took a knee. No gaffes, no heated exchange. He didn't fall for the bait...Anyway, This is how Obama is...he isnt a boxer, a football player, or even a gladiator, he THE PRESIDENT.
malaise
(269,144 posts)but allowed Rmoney to take over the entire debate.
Fugg him too. He was a lousy moderator
Permanut
(5,619 posts)This actually was no debate at all. In a real debate, rules get followed, or participants get penalized. And when I debated, I was fully aware that lying would cost me the debate. So Romney won? According to the rules on what planet?
lumpy
(13,704 posts)TV, movies, sports and politics, you name it. That is what we have become, a nation of aggressive haters, bikkering, blustering, foul mouth animals.
Guess that is why so many lefties were disappointed with Obama's performance. He didn't come out swinging punches and scathing one liners, he just tried using reason and truth.
ailsagirl
(22,898 posts)Nitt doesn't know the meaning of civility or patience. He's like a bull out of a shoot, which is NOT the kind of prez we want-- that's for sure. He can't erase his gaffes from the last six months, try as he will.
And I trust Team Obama to stay on top of all that.
And I expect the President to land a (genteel but effective) knockout punch next time that will reverberate from here to Florida (I'm in California).
I have faith in the President.
avebury
(10,952 posts)He allowed himself to be turned into a doormat. It is obvious that he is no longer capable of playing in the big leagues and he should retire. He lost all dignity last night.
Johonny
(20,872 posts)Romney won the debate, yet my Republican neighbor thought Romney was rude. He wished Obama put him in his place a few times. He thinks Romney talks down to people. This is the debate winner's impression to HIS audience.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)to today.
OldDem2012
(3,526 posts)Bucky
(54,041 posts)adigal
(7,581 posts)These are scum, is base.
tarheelsunc
(2,117 posts)JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)If Obama told Lehrer to shut up, he'd be crucified, not "presidential" ... Mitt doing the same thing is "assertive".
byeya
(2,842 posts)other than tons of money behind them at the expense of academic and professionals in the field for decades.
His guests are skewed to the RW and what he chooses to present as topics and what he chooses to ignore are mostly gifts to the monied elite. He will not be missed by Americans.
ecstatic
(32,726 posts)I can't imagine a good ending with Rombo as our representative to the world.
obxhead
(8,434 posts)Romney was rude, but that's who Romney is.
Lehrer lost control of that debate 5 minutes into it. He should have scolded Romney like a spoiled child if he must to reign in control of that debate.
ecstatic
(32,726 posts)while he was speaking.
obxhead
(8,434 posts)I almost understand it. Almost.
Lehrer was probably tired of Romney doing it and expected better of Obama. I'm obviously not sure of that as I couldn't read Lehrer's mind, but that's how it seemed to me. An interuption built from 80 minutes of exasperation at how the entire event went.
In the end it's Lehrer's fault. He lost control 5 minutes in. Not regaining it within the first 10 minutes meant he could never regain control of it.
Hopefully the next 2 moderators are properly prepared for the boy blunder team Romney/Ryan.
mulsh
(2,959 posts)what kind of an individual he is. It's something that no amount of rehearsal or coaching can disguise.
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)It was not unexpected. In Mitt's world we are all beneath him.
ArcticFox
(1,249 posts)One other thing bothers me that nobody seems to have picked up on:
Romney believes senior citizens are so selfish that, upon hearing he won't cut THEIR benefits, they can in good conscience "stop listening" about the cuts he would inflict on their children and grandchildren.
I thought Americans were better than that.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,027 posts)SaveAmerica
(5,342 posts)I was not surprised
Swede Atlanta
(3,596 posts)He was born with a stock portfolio in his mouth. He has never wanted for anything. I'm sorry but he has never had to fight for anything in his life. Talk about being dependent!!!
He is probably used to being rude to the driver, the maid, the mistress, you name it. And he thinks that is his inherent right as an asshole.
clydefrand
(4,325 posts)and it will never be change. That man will always be a liar. He told us last night that his sons lie too.
Well, we know where that came from.
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)It was astounding. The guy is an ass.
hay rick
(7,633 posts)Romney and the servants of the kleptocracy in the MSM can do their little victory dance, but the bottom line for a lot of people was- Romney bullied a 78-year-old.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)and Romney 'won'. o.f.f.s.
but thanks for bringing that up.
politicasista
(14,128 posts)Union Scribe
(7,099 posts)whether legal or just customary courtesy, apply to them. Like any GOPer, he puts himself first in every situation and to hell with anyone else.