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moriah

(8,311 posts)
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 02:45 PM Oct 2012

Am I the only one disgusted with how rude Rmoney was to Jim Lehrer?

It seriously bugged me.

I'm not talking about the "I am gonna cancel PBS" crap, but just how rude he was in general.

One of the many, many things that made me mad about how he behaved -- even while trying to be nice he demonstrated his dislike of the poor -- but the sheer rudeness bothered me terribly. Lehrer deserves far more respect than what he was shown by that lying idiot. Because I HAVE seen the budget he's campaigned on. I saw him tell middle class people in Ohio not to expect tax relief. I remember that 47% video. He's a lair.

But apparently not even Jim Lehrer makes enough money for him to show him respect.

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Am I the only one disgusted with how rude Rmoney was to Jim Lehrer? (Original Post) moriah Oct 2012 OP
I was disgusted too. LiberalLoner Oct 2012 #1
I am disgusted azmom Oct 2012 #2
husband came home from lunch. talk about that some more. he is a civil kinda guy. that really seabeyond Oct 2012 #3
No, you're not Scootaloo Oct 2012 #4
+1 freshwest Oct 2012 #17
That's true. I would've liked Lehrer to follow through, but Willard showed what a real ass he is. Indpndnt Oct 2012 #32
Jim Lehrer should have shut him down. TheCowsCameHome Oct 2012 #5
I think Lehrer expected Romney to be more gentlemanly and statesmanlike. blm Oct 2012 #10
Then Lehrer is a fool who hasn't been paying attention. WinkyDink Oct 2012 #13
No doubt. He was blindsided TheCowsCameHome Oct 2012 #16
I think a lot of people were seeing the real Romney for the first time last night Retrograde Oct 2012 #33
And wanting to be the President, that is a reasonable expectation treestar Oct 2012 #47
mittnocchio sounded like NIXON underthematrix Oct 2012 #6
He was a bully. Lugnut Oct 2012 #7
+1 freshwest Oct 2012 #29
+1000 Aerows Oct 2012 #67
Romney treated Lehrer like a hotel clerk jsr Oct 2012 #8
Lehrer oughtta be a hotel clerk pscot Oct 2012 #12
Agreed jsr Oct 2012 #21
I agree with you pf99 Oct 2012 #9
Why is a guy that HATES the American people even running for President? FSogol Oct 2012 #11
What's not to get?? Preside over the Final Transfer of Wealth to the 1%. It is JUST THAT SIMPLE. WinkyDink Oct 2012 #15
I think that a lot of people saw Romney's attitude on display, and didn't like it, MadHound Oct 2012 #14
This. Thank you! Indpndnt Oct 2012 #34
It was horrible. The only way Lehrer could have shut him up hifiguy Oct 2012 #18
Brilliant idea! tavernier Oct 2012 #44
No, you're not the only one, elleng Oct 2012 #19
A kill switch on the microphones would be a good start. gkhouston Oct 2012 #41
Right, fact checkers would do it! elleng Oct 2012 #54
How about an "america's got talent" Rainforestgoddess Oct 2012 #55
all good suggestions lunasun Oct 2012 #58
My first thought as well. FiveGoodMen Oct 2012 #65
Mitt looked like an arrogant ass who feels rules are for little people. PA Democrat Oct 2012 #20
Who moderates the next debates? TheCowsCameHome Oct 2012 #22
Candy Crowley grasswire Oct 2012 #36
I, I, I, I,..... TheCowsCameHome Oct 2012 #68
Agree freetrucker53 Oct 2012 #23
I thought he was also rude to Obama. City Lights Oct 2012 #24
Ditto. fleur-de-lisa Oct 2012 #46
In how many board meetings did he steamroller a dissenting voice like that? JHB Oct 2012 #25
No, I thought he acted deplorably. If he could, he would have held Lehrer down adigal Oct 2012 #26
+1 freshwest Oct 2012 #30
I think a lot of viewers probably picked up on that. He may have "won" the debate, BenzoDia Oct 2012 #27
He was rude to everyone. DearAbby Oct 2012 #28
I was disgusted until Jim Lehrer called on Obama for exceeding time malaise Oct 2012 #31
I"m with ya on this one, moriah, K&R.. Permanut Oct 2012 #35
People in this country thrive on witnessing a down and dirty fight in all areas of the media, lumpy Oct 2012 #37
Not at all ailsagirl Oct 2012 #38
I have no sympathy for Lehrer. avebury Oct 2012 #39
My conservative neighbor was Johonny Oct 2012 #40
Nope. It's been a main topic of conversation on the radio shows I've listened Cleita Oct 2012 #42
Myth Robme was the south end of a northbound horse last night. nt. OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #43
But the base LOVED it. Bucky Oct 2012 #45
They love the Jerry Springer show too adigal Oct 2012 #72
I'm disgusted with how rude Jim Lehrer was to the American people. tarheelsunc Oct 2012 #48
Romney knew he could bully Lehrer, and that Obama could not. JoePhilly Oct 2012 #49
Lehrer has allowed air time to representatives of RW "think tanks" that have no standing byeya Oct 2012 #50
If Rmoney wins, we all need to start building our bomb shelters ecstatic Oct 2012 #51
I'm disgusted with both of them. obxhead Oct 2012 #52
Yeah, and Lehrer didn't seem to have a problem interrupting Pres Obama ecstatic Oct 2012 #57
That happened at the end of the debate though. obxhead Oct 2012 #59
Romney is an ill mannered bullying creep, as is his wife. It speaks volumes about mulsh Oct 2012 #53
Mitt pretty much treats everyone the same way LynneSin Oct 2012 #56
He's an asshole. Elitist, privileged, asshole ArcticFox Oct 2012 #60
Romney's advisors believe PBS is "Liberal" so they told him to treat Jim Lehrer as the enemy. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #61
Romney bullied Lehrer. Lehrer folded. nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2012 #62
No you're not, he is an arrogant, selfish, lying bully SaveAmerica Oct 2012 #63
He thinks he has an inherent right to be rude and condescending.... Swede Atlanta Oct 2012 #64
I was disgusted with hem clydefrand Oct 2012 #66
If you have a dinner party, and someone acts like Romney did last night, you ask him to leave. HuckleB Oct 2012 #69
I was thrilled. hay rick Oct 2012 #70
I noticed that too. but today is full of 'Obama was a loser' shit around here. Whisp Oct 2012 #71
+1 n/t politicasista Oct 2012 #74
Jerks like Rmoney never think rules Union Scribe Oct 2012 #73

azmom

(5,208 posts)
2. I am disgusted
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 02:48 PM
Oct 2012

by his treatment of senior citizen Jim Lehrer. President Obama on the other hand handled himself with class. How he was able to keep his cool, I will never know. President Obama is cool and classy.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
3. husband came home from lunch. talk about that some more. he is a civil kinda guy. that really
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 02:48 PM
Oct 2012

struck him. like the third time he has mentioned it.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
4. No, you're not
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 02:49 PM
Oct 2012

'Course a lot of DU'ers are more interested in crashing down on Lehrer for not telling Romney to shut his pie hole, or correcting him (i.e., for not being a rude ass to the candidate or playing ball for the president). But my opinion, it was ROMNEY who was fucking up left and right.

Indpndnt

(2,391 posts)
32. That's true. I would've liked Lehrer to follow through, but Willard showed what a real ass he is.
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 03:12 PM
Oct 2012

And that's what counts.

TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)
5. Jim Lehrer should have shut him down.
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 02:50 PM
Oct 2012

I like Lehrer, but he let Romney take over. Lehrer was treated poorly, but it was his job to see that the rules were followed.

I was very disappointed in Lehrer, but not at all surprised the stuffed-shirt CEO Romney acted the way he did.

blm

(113,082 posts)
10. I think Lehrer expected Romney to be more gentlemanly and statesmanlike.
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 02:54 PM
Oct 2012

Especially being such a man of privilege and great wealth.

TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)
16. No doubt. He was blindsided
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 02:56 PM
Oct 2012

But that's when he should have held his hands up and said "no more" and made Romney stop his flaunting of the forum rules.

Retrograde

(10,143 posts)
33. I think a lot of people were seeing the real Romney for the first time last night
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 03:12 PM
Oct 2012

He wants the presidency really badly - not to serve his country but to serve his ego - and he probably feels like this is his last chance gambit to get it. The bullying and intimidation tactics have worked for him throughout his business career, so why stop now? Nobody questions the boss: he gets to talk, others listen and nod.

I hope his intimidation tactics sway the last undecided voters to vote for Obama: if Romney treats the president this way, how is he going to treat them?

treestar

(82,383 posts)
47. And wanting to be the President, that is a reasonable expectation
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 05:09 PM
Oct 2012

Mittens should not be rewarded with victory of any kind for his behavior - it's bad enough that Bush won those two terms, as that inspired Republicans to think their bullying behavior is the same as some kind of strength.

Lugnut

(9,791 posts)
7. He was a bully.
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 02:52 PM
Oct 2012

Jim Lehrer is accustomed to moderating debates between gentlemen. Mitt Romney is no gentleman.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
15. What's not to get?? Preside over the Final Transfer of Wealth to the 1%. It is JUST THAT SIMPLE.
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 02:56 PM
Oct 2012
 

MadHound

(34,179 posts)
14. I think that a lot of people saw Romney's attitude on display, and didn't like it,
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 02:56 PM
Oct 2012

One of the reasons why I simply don't understand this mass media/Democratic freakout. Romney clearly came across as a whiny, spoiled little rich boy, and that's going to hurt his chances a lot with a lot of undecideds.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
18. It was horrible. The only way Lehrer could have shut him up
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 02:58 PM
Oct 2012

was if Mittwit had been wearing a shock collar. Not even Chimpy acted anywhere near that boorish in a debate.

tavernier

(12,396 posts)
44. Brilliant idea!
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 04:56 PM
Oct 2012

Perhaps we should flood the internet with suggestions that during the next debate Mitt wear a shock collar so that he can be controlled. Although I read that Candy Crowley is going to be the next moderator, and if she follows her past political inclinations, she will give up the microphone to him more than willingly. But if she starts to uncross her legs, I'm turning off the set.

elleng

(131,051 posts)
19. No, you're not the only one,
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 02:59 PM
Oct 2012

and ANY moderator is entitled to respect. The forum deserves respect. WE deserve respect. POTUS was probably pretty surprised at rmoney's rudeness too, and thinking about what he'll do the next time. Wonder of format will be changed.

gkhouston

(21,642 posts)
41. A kill switch on the microphones would be a good start.
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 04:49 PM
Oct 2012

And if you want to go for pure evil, get a panel of fact-checkers at the debate. For every lie a candidate tells, the fact-checkers get to explain it on the spot... using the liar's debate time.

elleng

(131,051 posts)
54. Right, fact checkers would do it!
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 05:22 PM
Oct 2012

Learned next debate is Town Hall format, so We the People will ask questions, and maybe follow up or at least voice their displeasure w 'answers.'

Rainforestgoddess

(436 posts)
55. How about an "america's got talent"
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 05:22 PM
Oct 2012

type system, where each candidate has three big X's behind them. If they lie three times, BLAT! They're out.


FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
65. My first thought as well.
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 05:53 PM
Oct 2012

No arguing, no pleading, just a clock that turns the mic off after the allotted time.

When the next question is asked, the clock is started again and the mic is on till it runs out.

PA Democrat

(13,225 posts)
20. Mitt looked like an arrogant ass who feels rules are for little people.
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 02:59 PM
Oct 2012

He is entitled to live by his own set of rules with no regard to the feelings and well-being of other people. Paying your fair share of taxes, telling the truth, caring about the lives of less fortunate people are not things Mitt thinks he needs to do.

TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)
22. Who moderates the next debates?
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 02:59 PM
Oct 2012

I hope they shut anyone down that tries to do what that asshole Romney did.

He must be taught that this behavior won't be tolerated in the future. Two more debates and Romney will be a footnote in history anyway.

 

freetrucker53

(36 posts)
23. Agree
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 02:59 PM
Oct 2012

There have been reports of how Romney was a bully in college. Some said people do change, which is true, but it looks like Romney hasn't changed.

City Lights

(25,171 posts)
24. I thought he was also rude to Obama.
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 03:00 PM
Oct 2012

I thought he was condescending to Obama and Lehrer. He is a classless jerk.

JHB

(37,161 posts)
25. In how many board meetings did he steamroller a dissenting voice like that?
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 03:01 PM
Oct 2012

Perfect way to surround yourself with yes-men.

 

adigal

(7,581 posts)
26. No, I thought he acted deplorably. If he could, he would have held Lehrer down
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 03:05 PM
Oct 2012

and put tape on his mouth, and given him a haircut.

It is one thing to be anxious to speak, but Romney thought that his rights were more important that the POTUS' rights. I have never seen such behavior in a debate before. Talk about bringing down what it acceptable!! Congressmen are more polite in their debates than Romney was.

RUDE ASSHOLE.

BenzoDia

(1,010 posts)
27. I think a lot of viewers probably picked up on that. He may have "won" the debate,
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 03:05 PM
Oct 2012

but I doubt he closed the empathy gap.

DearAbby

(12,461 posts)
28. He was rude to everyone.
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 03:07 PM
Oct 2012

He really seemed Hyper to me...like a buzz from Red Bull or something...remember they had a blurb about Romney not being able to sleep the night before because of freight trains?

Any Gaffes they could have said it was the RED BULL....Also that tape coming out the night before showing what they saw as an angry scary black man...If Obama had attacked the lies with the same passion, this would have been "SEE WE TOLD YOU MOMENT"

The bases are pretty locked in. What this may have caused was a dampening of enthusiasm. Obama was playing for the soft middle, and independents. Who have in the past been very skittish about extremes, right or left. I think Obama did a great job last night considering all the above....he took a knee. No gaffes, no heated exchange. He didn't fall for the bait...Anyway, This is how Obama is...he isnt a boxer, a football player, or even a gladiator, he THE PRESIDENT.








malaise

(269,144 posts)
31. I was disgusted until Jim Lehrer called on Obama for exceeding time
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 03:11 PM
Oct 2012

but allowed Rmoney to take over the entire debate.

Fugg him too. He was a lousy moderator

Permanut

(5,619 posts)
35. I"m with ya on this one, moriah, K&R..
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 03:16 PM
Oct 2012

This actually was no debate at all. In a real debate, rules get followed, or participants get penalized. And when I debated, I was fully aware that lying would cost me the debate. So Romney won? According to the rules on what planet?

lumpy

(13,704 posts)
37. People in this country thrive on witnessing a down and dirty fight in all areas of the media,
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 04:02 PM
Oct 2012

TV, movies, sports and politics, you name it. That is what we have become, a nation of aggressive haters, bikkering, blustering, foul mouth animals.
Guess that is why so many lefties were disappointed with Obama's performance. He didn't come out swinging punches and scathing one liners, he just tried using reason and truth.

ailsagirl

(22,898 posts)
38. Not at all
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 04:16 PM
Oct 2012

Nitt doesn't know the meaning of civility or patience. He's like a bull out of a shoot, which is NOT the kind of prez we want-- that's for sure. He can't erase his gaffes from the last six months, try as he will.

And I trust Team Obama to stay on top of all that.

And I expect the President to land a (genteel but effective) knockout punch next time that will reverberate from here to Florida (I'm in California).

I have faith in the President.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
39. I have no sympathy for Lehrer.
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 04:17 PM
Oct 2012

He allowed himself to be turned into a doormat. It is obvious that he is no longer capable of playing in the big leagues and he should retire. He lost all dignity last night.

Johonny

(20,872 posts)
40. My conservative neighbor was
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 04:36 PM
Oct 2012

Romney won the debate, yet my Republican neighbor thought Romney was rude. He wished Obama put him in his place a few times. He thinks Romney talks down to people. This is the debate winner's impression to HIS audience.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
49. Romney knew he could bully Lehrer, and that Obama could not.
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 05:15 PM
Oct 2012

If Obama told Lehrer to shut up, he'd be crucified, not "presidential" ... Mitt doing the same thing is "assertive".

 

byeya

(2,842 posts)
50. Lehrer has allowed air time to representatives of RW "think tanks" that have no standing
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 05:19 PM
Oct 2012

other than tons of money behind them at the expense of academic and professionals in the field for decades.

His guests are skewed to the RW and what he chooses to present as topics and what he chooses to ignore are mostly gifts to the monied elite. He will not be missed by Americans.

ecstatic

(32,726 posts)
51. If Rmoney wins, we all need to start building our bomb shelters
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 05:20 PM
Oct 2012

I can't imagine a good ending with Rombo as our representative to the world.

 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
52. I'm disgusted with both of them.
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 05:20 PM
Oct 2012

Romney was rude, but that's who Romney is.

Lehrer lost control of that debate 5 minutes into it. He should have scolded Romney like a spoiled child if he must to reign in control of that debate.

 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
59. That happened at the end of the debate though.
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 05:31 PM
Oct 2012

I almost understand it. Almost.

Lehrer was probably tired of Romney doing it and expected better of Obama. I'm obviously not sure of that as I couldn't read Lehrer's mind, but that's how it seemed to me. An interuption built from 80 minutes of exasperation at how the entire event went.

In the end it's Lehrer's fault. He lost control 5 minutes in. Not regaining it within the first 10 minutes meant he could never regain control of it.

Hopefully the next 2 moderators are properly prepared for the boy blunder team Romney/Ryan.

mulsh

(2,959 posts)
53. Romney is an ill mannered bullying creep, as is his wife. It speaks volumes about
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 05:21 PM
Oct 2012

what kind of an individual he is. It's something that no amount of rehearsal or coaching can disguise.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
56. Mitt pretty much treats everyone the same way
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 05:22 PM
Oct 2012

It was not unexpected. In Mitt's world we are all beneath him.

ArcticFox

(1,249 posts)
60. He's an asshole. Elitist, privileged, asshole
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 05:32 PM
Oct 2012

One other thing bothers me that nobody seems to have picked up on:

Romney believes senior citizens are so selfish that, upon hearing he won't cut THEIR benefits, they can in good conscience "stop listening" about the cuts he would inflict on their children and grandchildren.

I thought Americans were better than that.

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
64. He thinks he has an inherent right to be rude and condescending....
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 05:44 PM
Oct 2012

He was born with a stock portfolio in his mouth. He has never wanted for anything. I'm sorry but he has never had to fight for anything in his life. Talk about being dependent!!!

He is probably used to being rude to the driver, the maid, the mistress, you name it. And he thinks that is his inherent right as an asshole.

clydefrand

(4,325 posts)
66. I was disgusted with hem
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 05:58 PM
Oct 2012

and it will never be change. That man will always be a liar. He told us last night that his sons lie too.

Well, we know where that came from.

HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
69. If you have a dinner party, and someone acts like Romney did last night, you ask him to leave.
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 07:13 PM
Oct 2012

It was astounding. The guy is an ass.

hay rick

(7,633 posts)
70. I was thrilled.
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 07:24 PM
Oct 2012

Romney and the servants of the kleptocracy in the MSM can do their little victory dance, but the bottom line for a lot of people was- Romney bullied a 78-year-old.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
71. I noticed that too. but today is full of 'Obama was a loser' shit around here.
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 07:24 PM
Oct 2012

and Romney 'won'. o.f.f.s.

but thanks for bringing that up.

Union Scribe

(7,099 posts)
73. Jerks like Rmoney never think rules
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 11:43 PM
Oct 2012

whether legal or just customary courtesy, apply to them. Like any GOPer, he puts himself first in every situation and to hell with anyone else.

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