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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIs there a fact checking website...
that actually shows how many lies Romney told v/s Obama. It would be interesting to see.
newsboy
(89 posts)Who is in charge of Outputting a response to the lies
I am so disappointed in a vast group of commentators who were crying about Os performance when they should have had in hand a Mitt List of (to be clear) LIES, BEFORE the debate was OVER. Anyone would have trouble debating someone who flat out distorts their own record in real time, on camera, on stage, under the lights and with a big bird smile. Only, and I do mean Only, Rev. AL was taken aback by the LIE Tide.
What gives
.why are we a democrats so damn un-business like.
Where is that damn Web Site
.where is that LIST. I want to spread it around instead of crying abouts Os debating skills.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)That is FactCheck.org ..... who does call Mitt the 'serial exaggerator'
where is OUR list.
Do you agree with fact check on the $5 trillion? Their analysis is a joke
Mitt lopes 5T off income, going to back-fill with loop hole closures and it is the Presidents bad
Give me a break as P. B Clinton would say
cbayer
(146,218 posts)They are the organization that found almost no problems with Clinton's convention speech.
I think it's important to know the truth from both sides. Although they don't say it directly, I think it is safe to conclude from their analysis that while there were problems on both sides, Romney's *facts* were more problematic.
newsboy
(89 posts)FC: To be clear, Romney has proposed cutting personal federal income tax rates by 20 percent, ... extend the (Bush) tax cuts ...... eliminate estate tax , ....repeal the Alternative Minimum Tax, ....(and) eliminate taxes on interest, capital gains and dividends for taxpayers < $200,000 per year.
By themselves, ...... The Obama campaign has extrapolated .... 10 years, coming up with a $5 trillion figure over a decade.
However, Romney always has said he planned to offset that massive cut with equally massive reductions in tax preferences to broaden the tax base, thus losing no revenue and not increasing the deficit. So to that extent, the president is incorrect: Romney is not proposing a $5 trillion reduction in taxes.
Sorry this is more than a debate, if it is not seen nor heard, over 18 months, it does not exist. As the President pointed out if one closed all preferences it would not come to near neutral. So we have an undefined financial impossibility, which remains by any measure an impossibility (A LIE)
I say -$5T + $0T = -$5T is closer to the Checked Facts than -$5T+ $5T in known VooDoo $ = $0
Did you or Factcheck ever hear the one about Bush Tax Cuts , it will mean trickle down JOBS lots of shopping and no deficits! ... and the President is incorrect to in effect say with recent history you get no credit for Fudge. Fudge = 0 and that must be a FACT.
I suggest you look again at the Fair Factcheck List. 4.6 million jobs plus this years un-tallied numbers is NOT 5 million ??? He should not claim $ from ending wars even though he is ending them ????
I am sorry FactCheck ????? You need them to tell you who Mitt is? How about a DemCheck
what i would love to see though is a Mitt told 49 lies, Obama told 3 type thing. for all the repubs gloating right now. easy to "win" a debate when you lie
Well Finally 13 hours later
You are correct in that there should have been, needs to be next time, a Web Site that fights back against BS immediately .... a score card
O HITS BACK
13 HOURS LATE!
'You Owe The American People The Truth'... Finally Mentions 47%
DEBATE NIGHT FIGHT: Romney Wins... Instant Polls Go Mitt
Romney Walked Back Multiple Positions... Denied His Own Tax Plan... 'Flat-Out Misstated His Position'... 'Badly Misrepresented His Policies, Made Up Numbers'... Top Adviser Contradicts Romney On Health Care... Krugman: 'The Moral Equivalent Of A Lie'... 4 Most Misleading Moments... 'Romney Thrived Because He Abandoned The Pretense Of Honesty'
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