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still_one

(92,325 posts)
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 12:22 PM Oct 2012

If I am one of the undecided idiots who cannot make up their mind who to vote for, and I see the

debate last night where contradictions and lies go unanswered; but since the "undecideds" do not realize what are the contradictions and lies, because they are so stupid, which is why they are undecided,

That is the reason why you don't let lies and contradictions go unaswered, and you respond immediately while the opportunity is there

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If I am one of the undecided idiots who cannot make up their mind who to vote for, and I see the (Original Post) still_one Oct 2012 OP
I think they should stay home on election day. hrmjustin Oct 2012 #1
agreed, except these are the ones who determine who will be president still_one Oct 2012 #3
The Pres played defense all the way. But not good defense. immoderate Oct 2012 #2
He better not let that happen again, because there is no room left for mistakes now /nt still_one Oct 2012 #6
Yes. I feel like he blew his lead. It was the big audience. immoderate Oct 2012 #15
Most of us here I suspect have the same concerns. Just continue the fight /nt still_one Oct 2012 #19
It's a fight Tyson73 Oct 2012 #26
Wrong. JNelson6563 Oct 2012 #4
Interesting, because coming out of the Obama campaign they are saying themselves they didn't have a still_one Oct 2012 #7
There aren't that many undecideds but in a turn out election you fire up your base and steal some of uponit7771 Oct 2012 #5
we are on the same page. We were ahead, now we have to rebuild it again /nt still_one Oct 2012 #8
Somebody still undecided would be too apolitical treestar Oct 2012 #9
perhaps, but that isn't what the so-called experts say still_one Oct 2012 #11
are there any grown ups on this website? liberal_at_heart Oct 2012 #10
so sorry, that because view points do not agree with yours then they are not "grown ups". You can still_one Oct 2012 #13
We get it. You don't like Obama and never have. MjolnirTime Oct 2012 #12
Interesting, you are making a false accusation. Similary to false accusations that were made by still_one Oct 2012 #16
I apologize liberal_at_heart Oct 2012 #14
Not an issue, we all want the same thing, and that is Obama and the Democrats to win. The stakes still_one Oct 2012 #17
If you're undecided marions ghost Oct 2012 #18
I voted for Obama in '08 and will vote for him this year liberal_at_heart Oct 2012 #21
I was addressing still_one actually marions ghost Oct 2012 #22
I am not undecided, I WAS GIVING AN EXAMPLE FOR THOSE WHO ARE? Because that is what will determine still_one Oct 2012 #23
No need to jump on me like Mitt on a stick marions ghost Oct 2012 #24
come on we are on the same team, no issues here we both want Obama and the Democrats to win /nt still_one Oct 2012 #25
And everybody's a little on edge, understandably marions ghost Oct 2012 #27
Undecided idiots don't have the attention span to watch the debate. HuckleB Oct 2012 #20
JMHO, but anyone who is STILL undecided at this point is a certifiable idiot. nt. OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #28
 

immoderate

(20,885 posts)
15. Yes. I feel like he blew his lead. It was the big audience.
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 12:45 PM
Oct 2012

I am still fearful of the vote counting and the voter suppression. I wonder of Obama will even have the opportunity to make up for this setback. Romney was full of shit, but surprisingly masterful at it.

And I'm not going to overestimate the intelligence of the public.

This has me depressed.

--imm

 

Tyson73

(25 posts)
26. It's a fight
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 05:14 PM
Oct 2012

Obama played 4 quarters of prevent defense.

Romney blitzed and lied all over the place but fortunes favor the bold.

Half of dimwitted Americans will vote on confidence that Romney showed. Too many Americans will
choose the alph male whether he's lying or not.

Sad but true.

Saturate the Battleground states for the next 30 days please DNC.

JNelson6563

(28,151 posts)
4. Wrong.
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 12:27 PM
Oct 2012

First of all I am glad the President is an old pro and knew better than to go on the defense. Romney did a few times and looked desperate for it.

Obama answered some of the bullshit but did not let Mittens frame the debate.

I'm just glad you and other DUers bleeting similar thoughts weren't in any way advisers to the campaign.

Julie

still_one

(92,325 posts)
7. Interesting, because coming out of the Obama campaign they are saying themselves they didn't have a
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 12:33 PM
Oct 2012

good night

This isn't a chess game, they screwed up

When you are handed a wealth of lies and contradictions, and you don't point out at the time that your opponent has been contradicting himself, why not?



uponit7771

(90,348 posts)
5. There aren't that many undecideds but in a turn out election you fire up your base and steal some of
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 12:27 PM
Oct 2012

...there LIV leanings.

You're spot on that it can't be done unless a lie is addressed...

Behavirial science is a lie left unchallenged becomes the truth to those who are tryin to decide.

The LABELING of the lie has to be firm and outright, no equivocating or going back and forth...call it what it is and tell why it's a lie.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
9. Somebody still undecided would be too apolitical
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 12:35 PM
Oct 2012

to watch a debate. They'll probably vote for the incumbent because they heard his name before.

still_one

(92,325 posts)
13. so sorry, that because view points do not agree with yours then they are not "grown ups". You can
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 12:40 PM
Oct 2012

be professional and still point out romney's lies and contradictions with the simple statement, "Mr. Rommney, you are now saying exactly the oppositie of what you have been saying"

Gosh, that wasn't too difficult, and was it that "childish"?

still_one

(92,325 posts)
16. Interesting, you are making a false accusation. Similary to false accusations that were made by
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 12:46 PM
Oct 2012

someone last night.

and I can prove your accusations are false. Look at my posts here through the years. They are prodominately pro-Obama

You do a search through the archive

Gosh, that isn't too difficult, if someone makes a false charge, come right back with facts



liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
14. I apologize
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 12:44 PM
Oct 2012

I was calling you out for using the word idiot and did imply that you are childish. Calling someone childish is just as juvenile as calling someone an idiot, so I do apologize for that.

still_one

(92,325 posts)
17. Not an issue, we all want the same thing, and that is Obama and the Democrats to win. The stakes
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 12:47 PM
Oct 2012

are too high this time

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
18. If you're undecided
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 12:48 PM
Oct 2012

--meaning that you are considering the 2 candidates equally, then maybe you should go over to the Bombney camp and give them some congratulations instead of badgering us here with your "indecision" and doubts...

Go support the guy with all the answers...if that's what you admire. Get off the fence.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
21. I voted for Obama in '08 and will vote for him this year
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 12:56 PM
Oct 2012

I am not undecided. I just think that calling undecideds idiots is not what reasonable, rational people do. But maybe you're right. I have been thinking about becoming an independent. At least they are reasonable and rational. I have voted for a democrat in every single race every since 1994, but more and more I do think more like an independent and next election I think I will change my affiliation. Thank you. I know one thing for sure. This website is definitely not the place for me. I have left this website before. I felt empowered by the tv anchor in Wisconsin to come back and not be bullied, but you cannot stand up to cyber bullies. It is never ending. The only way to deal with cyber bullies is to get off the internet.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
22. I was addressing still_one actually
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 01:22 PM
Oct 2012

but since you jumped in...

I don't give a rat's ass if you become an Independent. Be the Undecided Princess who can't make up her mind when there are two crystal clear choices at this point (not all the range of choices we liberals might want, but it's a two-party system). The wavering Princess has to choose between a) the slick lying rich two-faced bastard who will screw her and b) the civilized, loyal, big-hearted guy trying to do the right thing for the good of all--ie. the REAL man. The Princess really shouldn't take too long deciding, but she's young and impressionable and makes mistakes...

Didn't Monty Python cover this a long time ago?

Cya

still_one

(92,325 posts)
23. I am not undecided, I WAS GIVING AN EXAMPLE FOR THOSE WHO ARE? Because that is what will determine
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 04:25 PM
Oct 2012

this, at least according to the polls

Nobody at DU is undecided, we know the differences

As far as your jumping to conclusions that somehow I said I was undecided, I NEVER DID

Read more carefully

I said IF, the key word is IF

as far as you accusing me of badgering I am presenting a discussion WHY the debates are important to answer falsehoods and lies, because the undecideds don't know

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
24. No need to jump on me like Mitt on a stick
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 04:58 PM
Oct 2012

Sorry the If and the I ran together... my bad myself

Perhaps mate, you could have taken the "you" response a little more impersonally. OK jitters, OK. (Sheesh) Relax.

Anyway look who it attracted--one of the real live Undecideds you were talking about...an excellent example--who got my knee-jerk opinion, FWIW.

Peace love butterflies & gekkos

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
27. And everybody's a little on edge, understandably
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 05:21 PM
Oct 2012

--this election is BIG--only one way Up. The other escalator goes Down



HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
20. Undecided idiots don't have the attention span to watch the debate.
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 12:49 PM
Oct 2012

Most of them will watch the ads that Obama will put out this week showing Romney's lies and rudeness.

It's called letting the bozo hang himself.

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