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berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 12:07 AM Oct 2012

Obama is doing well with the fact checkers...Romney not so much

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2012/oct/03/fact-checking-denver-presidential-debate/

Politifact is running through debate statements now. Romney is averaging half truth at best, Obama mostly true. I think this will be laid out clearly in the next few days. Romney believes he can say anything and get away with it. Well he is just lying to himself on that.

Obama didn't need to call out every lie. Everyone here knew the lies Romney was spewing. Undecideds aren't going to make their choice tonight. By the time they do, the truth will be made clear.
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seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
3. that is another point. fact check is here to stay. no, obama didnt need to spend the time calling
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 12:09 AM
Oct 2012

him a liar. net media pick it up and run. like with the conventions.

Indpndnt

(2,391 posts)
5. Right. Media will cover it daily. As will the many commercials.
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 12:10 AM
Oct 2012

The debate is over. The lies will live on.

renegade000

(2,301 posts)
6. my hope is that while romney may have won the "battle"
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 12:10 AM
Oct 2012

he will have lost the "war".

it was a bizarre show. i don't think obama was on his game, but i can see how it would have been hard to counter romney with all
the sudden policy changes and pandering, etc...

Baitball Blogger

(46,753 posts)
7. That will be important because one of the things that the pollsters ask, is which candidate do
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 12:10 AM
Oct 2012

you believe will tell you the truth?

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
9. My young adult son kept saying
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 12:12 AM
Oct 2012

romney didn't seem that bad and all I could do was keep repeating that he was lying about pretty much everything. Of course, he wouldn't sound so bad.

I hope they nail him for every one of his lies.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
11. If Obama called Willard an out and out liar,
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 12:13 AM
Oct 2012

he would have come off as a bad guy. People would not have liked it. This is the job of the press, and the fact checkers.
As far as I am concerned, Mitt hanged himself by his own petard.

On the Road

(20,783 posts)
14. This is What People are Missing
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 12:19 AM
Oct 2012

when they say he should have charged Romney with lying. He could have challenged more things than he did, like the $719Billion in Medicare reductions, but beyond that, there are certain things the candidate himself shouldn't say. Others have to say them.

Fortunately, the VP is usually the hatchet man. And Biden can do it with a big grin on his face. He's goin' to have a nice setup for next week's debate.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
15. I agree. The president did what he had to. Keep it clean and neat. Make no mistakes. Rmoney did what
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 12:31 AM
Oct 2012

he had to do which was be very aggressive without getting nasty. But Rmoney had to make some pretty bold statements. I think they will haunt him. Pres Obama must continue keeping his cool and letting Rmoney make the mistakes.

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