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kpete

(72,024 posts)
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 05:04 PM Oct 2012

(Change We Can Believe In?) BREAKING: Is Krugman Heading To White House Job?

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There is no evidence that Paul Krugman has been offered a job in the Obama administration, other than the claims of a diarist who says "reports surfaced" but is unable to point to such reports, and who has a track record of false claims. Such an offer would represent a huge shift in Obama's economic policy, but we've seen no evidence of such a shift.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/03/1139398/-Another-embarrassment-for-DailyKos


At the top, both Sec. of State Hillary Clinton and Treasury Sec. Tim Geithner have said they plan to step down. Geithner wants to return to Wall St. – no surprise there; often, his actions at Treasury made it seem as if he never left – and Clinton will have a dizzying array of attractive options from book deals and corporate directorships to planning a presidential run in 2016. Other cabinet secretaries are likely to follow, including Attorney General Eric Holder who's become a lightning rod for Democrats and Republicans alike thanks to a triad of missteps including not prosecuting anyone on Wall St. for their role in the financial meltdown, not being more aggressive in fighting voter suppression and mishandling the "Fast and Furious" controversy.

If precedent is any indication, there will be a massive reshuffling of the West Wing itself by January, as well.

Persistent rumors in Washington say that one advisor who will leave is Alan Krueger, chair of the Council of Economic Advisors since 2011. And even more persistent rumors are floating around that the president will ask Princeton University professor, New York Times columnist and blogger, and Nobel Prize winning economist Paul Krugman to take Krueger's place.

"There's no question that Krugman is on the president's list for the next term," a well-placed source close to the highest levels of The White House told me today. He did not wish to comment for attribution for fear of risking access.

I tried reaching Dr. Krugman for a response but he is in Europe and not available for comment.

more:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/03/1139322/-BREAKING-Is-Krugman-Heading-To-White-House-Job


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(Change We Can Believe In?) BREAKING: Is Krugman Heading To White House Job? (Original Post) kpete Oct 2012 OP
About f**king time. Atman Oct 2012 #1
Yes but I don't think he would accept it now. AnnaLee Oct 2012 #6
Hopefully the end of the tea partiers is right around the corner.../t monmouth Oct 2012 #10
The question is. If this were to happen (which I doubt). Will the repubes use this photo Guy Whitey Corngood Oct 2012 #2
I love that graphic. hifiguy Oct 2012 #8
It never gets old. But I'm pretty sure that's George Clooney in Syriana. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Oct 2012 #16
If so he looks so much like the good professor hifiguy Oct 2012 #20
Found it! Here's Prof. Krugman being all modest and shit :) Guy Whitey Corngood Oct 2012 #25
My older brother looks astonishingly like Clooney with a beard. nt tblue37 Oct 2012 #48
Love the movie, love that pic me b zola Oct 2012 #23
I think he's a hot potato flamingdem Oct 2012 #3
Wrong about what??? eom AnnaLee Oct 2012 #9
Really now? How do you explain the fact that he is the most accurate predictor out there? Zalatix Oct 2012 #22
Yes and no, all pundits get it wrong, that's the problem with hiring a pundit flamingdem Oct 2012 #24
And who can you hire that's perfect? Better yet, who can you hire who is more accurate than Krugman? Zalatix Oct 2012 #35
Politics aside... AgingAmerican Oct 2012 #37
great find. very interesting. I read it fast, but they didn't really explain Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2012 #36
I'm just happy he's on the list, frankly. Robb Oct 2012 #4
Please, let this happen. A lame duck prez can do a lot of different things. freshwest Oct 2012 #17
From the source's lips to the Invisible Pink Unicorn's hifiguy Oct 2012 #5
I would totally support that decision n/t arcane1 Oct 2012 #7
That alone would insure my vote for the President, as if he didn't already have it. 1-Old-Man Oct 2012 #11
Nice head fake.. But Krugman is not a Serious Person, in fact he's quite Shrill. Fumesucker Oct 2012 #12
I am a pragmatic moderate centrist. bluestate10 Oct 2012 #13
The President may be thinking the same thing.. "Team of Rivals" DCBob Oct 2012 #19
Did you click on the link I put in my post? Fumesucker Oct 2012 #28
I agree, Krugman may be just the ticket LiveNudePolitics Oct 2012 #34
Part of me dares to hope LiberalAndProud Oct 2012 #14
Please, please, please...! n/t porphyrian Oct 2012 #15
Even if Paul Krugman declines the offer Cirque du So-What Oct 2012 #18
Seems theWH was listening.....better late then never.. Tippy Oct 2012 #21
Too good to be true. nt hay rick Oct 2012 #26
That would be fabulous. At last someone who knows what's wrong and how to fix it! on point Oct 2012 #27
OMG lillypaddle Oct 2012 #29
Let's hope so! Fingers crossed!!! n/t bluethruandthru Oct 2012 #30
Toes are crossed too!! Left Coast2020 Oct 2012 #31
KOS has flagged this story as bogus... farmbo Oct 2012 #32
"...the #1 recommended diary on this site (KOS) is a complete fantasy." progressoid Oct 2012 #33
Logic flags the story as bogus. harmonicon Oct 2012 #38
I predict a new crop of corporate tools... polichick Oct 2012 #39
I think Krugman has written at least once in his column that he wasn't interested in working for the Cal33 Oct 2012 #40
I'm thinking Obama's second term will be unusual. caseymoz Oct 2012 #41
He needs a *liberal* true Democratic Congress--BOTH houses. Even when he had a supposed 60-vote Dem tblue37 Oct 2012 #49
I'm also predicting discord in the GOP. caseymoz Oct 2012 #50
This is a good sign, if true jumptheshadow Oct 2012 #42
Not true - see upthread. progressoid Oct 2012 #46
I remember '08... keopeli Oct 2012 #43
Nice carrot to bring the Liberals to the polls. Won't happen though. harun Oct 2012 #44
also free ponies for everyone Enrique Oct 2012 #45
A truly wretched thread. JNelson6563 Oct 2012 #47
Krugman has blogged more than once BootinUp Oct 2012 #51
Add Krugman and Shelia Bair BainsBane Oct 2012 #52

Atman

(31,464 posts)
1. About f**king time.
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 05:07 PM
Oct 2012

We're happy to have Wall Street insiders making decisions. How about just some guy who knows what he's talking about, without a vested interest?

AnnaLee

(1,041 posts)
6. Yes but I don't think he would accept it now.
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 05:14 PM
Oct 2012

Especially if tea partiers can block any effort to actually do something about the economy/job market.

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,505 posts)
2. The question is. If this were to happen (which I doubt). Will the repubes use this photo
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 05:11 PM
Oct 2012

as evidence against Mr. Krugman?

flamingdem

(39,332 posts)
24. Yes and no, all pundits get it wrong, that's the problem with hiring a pundit
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 06:09 PM
Oct 2012

Their opinions are too well known

 

Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
35. And who can you hire that's perfect? Better yet, who can you hire who is more accurate than Krugman?
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 07:13 PM
Oct 2012
 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
36. great find. very interesting. I read it fast, but they didn't really explain
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 07:13 PM
Oct 2012

how they quantified the total predictions. I mean, I've never really heard Maureen Dowd make that
many. If they made 1 vs 100

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
17. Please, let this happen. A lame duck prez can do a lot of different things.
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 05:42 PM
Oct 2012
In my second term, I will have more flexibility.
~ Barack Obama

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
13. I am a pragmatic moderate centrist.
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 05:31 PM
Oct 2012

I like the idea of having people that disagree with me around. The goal is to fight it out over ideas, develop a working consensus then execute to that consensus. If Krugman is the type that fights hard for what he believes in decision making meetings, but is ok with supporting the ultimate decision afterward, he may be one of the best choices. Krugman will bring fresh ideas to the table.

Often reading stuff written on DU leaves me wanting to punch a brick wall. But I come back. The reason why is that I am not in a echo chamber of like minds, that is a good outcome, even when there are times I become insane when reading posts from some DU members that I would rather not name.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
19. The President may be thinking the same thing.. "Team of Rivals"
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 05:48 PM
Oct 2012

Krugman has been a thorn in the side of Obama since day one. Maybe the President is thinking this will get him off his back.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
28. Did you click on the link I put in my post?
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 06:30 PM
Oct 2012

Even Krugman admits he's Shrill.



Not gladly suffering fools is for the most part a negative in politics.

Krugman's reputation precedeth him.






LiveNudePolitics

(285 posts)
34. I agree, Krugman may be just the ticket
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 07:13 PM
Oct 2012

I hope they choose the best person for the job. Fresh ideas have never been more needed, yet poo-pooed on sites that are supposed to be safe places for discussion. That's too close to Tea Party's tactics for comfort, for me.

Debate is vital to improving our lot. But, some DU folks want to look at every issue, policy point or sound byte through an "us and them" mentality. Sometimes Daily Kos is the same way, when you can't even discuss a Dem in less than glowing terms, even if he is a known criminal, with out everyone jumping all over you for disloyalty.
We won't ever get anything done that way, especially as long as our legislators behave in the same fashion, putting party affiliation first.
I reject the Republican ideology, because it is bad for the country, the policies seem designed to move money upwards to those who need it least. I vote mostly Democratic, but not just for the "right kind" of Dems. You have to do the work, to pick the best candidate.

LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
14. Part of me dares to hope
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 05:33 PM
Oct 2012

that cabinet appointments for Obama's second term will be delightfully surprising.

I hope.

on point

(2,506 posts)
27. That would be fabulous. At last someone who knows what's wrong and how to fix it!
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 06:27 PM
Oct 2012

PLEASE replace all those Chicago School e con fools who pushed supply side economics and the tinkle down nonsense that only served to enrich the few by ripping off the many

Left Coast2020

(2,397 posts)
31. Toes are crossed too!!
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 07:04 PM
Oct 2012

Dr. Krugman should have gotten the gig from day-one. Who better to know how to deal with an "economy" than that worm Geithner--who by the way, should be in jail imo.

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
38. Logic flags the story as bogus.
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 07:17 PM
Oct 2012

Is he on a list? Sure. I bet his name is on a list of potential appointees to leak to the media. I doubt his name is on a list of actual potential appointees.

polichick

(37,152 posts)
39. I predict a new crop of corporate tools...
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 07:25 PM
Oct 2012

...as campaigning Obama gives way to governing Obama. Hope I'm wrong and he does it differently this time.

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
40. I think Krugman has written at least once in his column that he wasn't interested in working for the
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 07:32 PM
Oct 2012

government.

caseymoz

(5,763 posts)
41. I'm thinking Obama's second term will be unusual.
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 07:35 PM
Oct 2012

If he wins, I bet he'd get more done, and more progressive things done, in the second term than in the first.

My nightmare: I think he has a better chance of being assassinated now than he does of losing this election.

tblue37

(65,490 posts)
49. He needs a *liberal* true Democratic Congress--BOTH houses. Even when he had a supposed 60-vote Dem
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 08:36 PM
Oct 2012

majority in the Senate, it wasn't really that. It was always several true Dems short of a 60-vote majority, and the Repubs were filibustering everything, so nothing less than a true 60-vote majority could make it possible for a vote to even be held on important legislation.

caseymoz

(5,763 posts)
50. I'm also predicting discord in the GOP.
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 09:18 PM
Oct 2012

They lose this Presidential race, and it's just going to get worse (or better, if you're a Democrat). Their main strategies have been to defeat Obama and repeal the ACA. If they're turned back on both of them, they are going to turn on each other. If it's a terrible defeat, that is, if they lose ground in both chambers of Congress without necessarily losing the house, the blame and fighting is going to be worse.

I mean, in four years of demonizing Obama, questioning his birth certificate, saying his election was illegitimate, saying he was Hitler, he was closet Jihadist. And they acted like all of this was true. So, when they do all that, and they still can't defeat him, it's going to be demoralizing. They couldn't even field a good candidate.

Plus, they can see the demographic trend. They know ethnic minorities will soon be the majority, and those minorities all agree that the GOP stinks. Repubs know their fortunes are set to go downhill from here, and the only thing that could conceivably reverse it is a win in the Presidential race.

jumptheshadow

(3,269 posts)
42. This is a good sign, if true
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 07:36 PM
Oct 2012

Krugman has integrity and vision. Perhaps it means that the President is going to take off the gloves when he wins a second term.

keopeli

(3,526 posts)
43. I remember '08...
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 07:44 PM
Oct 2012

Similar rumors preceded the '08 election. Obama's campaign staff was full of progressives.

I also remember who was picked immediately following the election to fill administrative posts. Campaign progressives were dismissed outright, and corporate insiders, wall street gazillionaires and cronies for the rich filled almost every significant job.

I also remember a certain person, hired as Chief of Staff, telling supportive progressives who were complaining about the choices something along the lines of "f*** off".

Realistically, I would expect a second term administration to be full of similar corporate shrills. I prefer to remain realistic in my expectations this time about a re-elected Obama. I'd rather not be disappointed again with my preferred choice for President. After all, we can't re-make Obama into what we want him to be. He is what he is, he likes what he likes, and his choices remain his, in spite of the views of his hard-working supporters.

harun

(11,348 posts)
44. Nice carrot to bring the Liberals to the polls. Won't happen though.
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 07:49 PM
Oct 2012

You don't fill the White House with former members of Goldman Sach's then pick a Krugman. Ain't happen'n.

JNelson6563

(28,151 posts)
47. A truly wretched thread.
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 08:30 PM
Oct 2012

Some diarist at Kos weaves a story from "rumors", quotes from anonymous sources and throws in lots of opinion and VOILA!

Watch the DUers line up to imply this is the work of the WH to trick the hard working supporters out there blogging and stuff like every day who were crestfallen to discover he was actually exactly like Bush II!1!

omg.

Julie

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