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diabeticman

(3,121 posts)
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 09:36 AM Oct 2012

Wife just called The local Board of Elections.

She is active and found where the they put our polling place this year. (they seem to move it EVERY major election.)


Anyways wife asked about the True to Vote being at the polling places.


Election official had not heard about the group but said she would look in on the matter she asked if there was a website.


Here is the website: http://www.truethevote.org/

Maybe DU members should call to inform there various election boards and informed them of this group.

The First page alone talks about lies:

There are 100s of US counties that have more than 100% population

There are an est 2,000,000 dead voters on the roles.

67% of Americans support the use of Photo ID at poles.

64% think election fraud is a problem.

We need to inform out board of election of these people. They have been mobilizing for a while now.

Edit: If you go to the site and click on volunteering they ask if you want to be a poll worker.


I AM TRYING TO GIVE YOU THE TOOLS THAT YOU AND YOUR ELECTION BOARD WILL NEED TO COMBAT THIS GROUP! THE ABOVE IS THE BULLSHIT THE WEBSITE IS SAYING! ALSO THEY ARE RECUITING PEOPLE TO GET THEM TO "WATCH POLLING PLACES" I'M TRYING TO INFORM PEOPLE WITH THIS POST

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Wife just called The local Board of Elections. (Original Post) diabeticman Oct 2012 OP
Increasingly, Republicans can only win by cheating. NYC_SKP Oct 2012 #1
I don't doubt there are dead people on the lists...people DO die. Frustratedlady Oct 2012 #2
I've never understood this "there are dead people on the rolls!" hysteria CoffeeCat Oct 2012 #6
See, that is a huge thing for them to waive around- findin the dead people on the rolls, cecilfirefox Oct 2012 #15
'True the Vote' is a RW voter intimidation group rox63 Oct 2012 #3
Yes, my wife was trying to warn the Board of elections about this Tea Party bag of shit. She and diabeticman Oct 2012 #5
True the Vote is a Republican (Tea Party) group frazzled Oct 2012 #4
I'm trying to inform people of how this group is full of crap. I'm suggesting everyone call their diabeticman Oct 2012 #7
I'm pretty sure the BoE doesn't need a slew of calls about this. WinkyDink Oct 2012 #24
Our BoE didn't know about them. I say keep the BoE informed. diabeticman Oct 2012 #25
The OP is speaking out AGAINST True the Vote... CoffeeCat Oct 2012 #8
I really, really, really want them to come to the city of Philadelphia Patiod Oct 2012 #10
PSA's are a good thing Viva_La_Revolution Oct 2012 #9
The OP was edited twice ... frazzled Oct 2012 #11
does anyone have an idea WHERE these cretins are planning to be? mopinko Oct 2012 #12
Tell me is Larry Klayman still in charge of Judicial Watch? Tippy Oct 2012 #13
I never heard of Judicial watch before so have no clue about them. diabeticman Oct 2012 #18
They have been around for ever.... Tippy Oct 2012 #19
I work the polls her in PA every election........... mrmpa Oct 2012 #14
This is something folks need to realize about poll watchers- they need permission, cecilfirefox Oct 2012 #16
Very true...They are picked by the parties.... Tippy Oct 2012 #20
That's good to know. My wife and I have been hearing about True To Vote for weeks on Rachel's diabeticman Oct 2012 #17
That 100 foot rule will depend either on your state or SheilaT Oct 2012 #26
Not a problem in this State, nor in the next... Bluenorthwest Oct 2012 #21
In CA abolugi Oct 2012 #22
Aren't poll-watchers de rigueur? Just get the highest-ranking Democrat at the polling place to throw WinkyDink Oct 2012 #23

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
2. I don't doubt there are dead people on the lists...people DO die.
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 09:49 AM
Oct 2012

They make it sound like they were registered recently.

Well, maybe they were by that group the Repugs hired.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
6. I've never understood this "there are dead people on the rolls!" hysteria
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 10:02 AM
Oct 2012

Yes. There are dead people on the rolls. Because people tend to die sometimes. It's a part of life.

And guess what? They won't be showing up to vote. Mainly because...they're dead.

It's just more Republican hysteria that they expect to fuel their cheating and general ass clownery.

cecilfirefox

(784 posts)
15. See, that is a huge thing for them to waive around- findin the dead people on the rolls,
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 12:20 PM
Oct 2012

Know what happens once a week in the county I used to vote the most in? The County Clerk pulls out all the papers for the week and combs the obituaries to clean the rolls. Sometimes they miss people, because an obituary wasn't posted, or in one case where a poll worker asked a woman if her husband was coming to vote later they realized that he had died in a hospital in MO and therefore never received any notice of the death in Kansas. See there dead people on the rolls? Yes, here and there. Now show me someone voting in place of them- and then you have something to complain about. Until then, STFU.

rox63

(9,464 posts)
3. 'True the Vote' is a RW voter intimidation group
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 09:55 AM
Oct 2012

They hang out at polling places challenging people's right to vote.

diabeticman

(3,121 posts)
5. Yes, my wife was trying to warn the Board of elections about this Tea Party bag of shit. She and
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 10:01 AM
Oct 2012

I are getting the word out that everyone should make their respected board of election aware of this group and it's bull crap so we don't see voters turned away.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
4. True the Vote is a Republican (Tea Party) group
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 09:57 AM
Oct 2012

Focused on false memes such as the ones posted here.

Since 2009, a Tea Party organization called True the Vote has been stoking the recently ignited fervor for voter purges and voter ID requirements currently winding their way through state courts. The Houston-based group has involved itself in every major election in the past three years, purporting to defend election integrity from widespread voter fraud.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/08/28/748841/tea-party-group-builds-poll-watcher-network-to-discourage-voting-create-false-record-of-voter-fraud/


Purportedly to combat unsubstantiated claims of "voter fraud," the Texas-based "True the Vote" is coordinating with a variety of Wisconsin-based Tea Party groups to train poll watchers. True the Vote, a spinoff of the Texas-based Tea Party group the King Street Patriots, held election observer trainings across Wisconsin on May 19 with trainers flown-in from Houston, and an online training session on May 29. In the past, True the Vote's poll-watching tactics have prompted accusations of voter suppression.

http://www.prwatch.org/news/2012/05/11552/texas-based-true-vote-gearing-combat-voter-fraud-wisconsin-recall


There's much much more if you google this group.

I give the OP 3, 2, 1 to remain unlocked.

diabeticman

(3,121 posts)
7. I'm trying to inform people of how this group is full of crap. I'm suggesting everyone call their
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 10:06 AM
Oct 2012

respected board of elections to keep these jackasses from intimidating voters! I'm also suggesting people educate their respected board of elections about the BULL CRAP this group is trying to pull and the trouble they can make.


You want my post locked bacause I'm giving information that could help combat them FINE BUT in order to defeat bull crap you need to know what bull crap is talking about to counter the arguement!


DON"T JUST TO THE IDEA THAT I"M A TROLL

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
8. The OP is speaking out AGAINST True the Vote...
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 10:10 AM
Oct 2012

...and personally, I am glad that others are posting about this horrible, disgusting, misguided group.

Yes, it is run by the Tea Party. I heard Glenn Beck talking about True the Vote and urging people to go to the website and sign up to volunteer. They've been plotting their voter crimes for months now.

I was totally stricken when I went to the site, because they offer the following volunteer opportunities (and you can read this on the www.truethevote.org site yourself):

----Volunteer to serve as poll workers on election night to provide security and to scout for voter fraud.
----Help them sift through the voter rolls and flag voters who seem problematic.

Are you outraged yet??????????????????????

Tea partiers using ham-fisted techniques to intimidate voters. Tea partiers combing the voter rolls. Mother trucker.

This is so beyond the pale and so outrageous.

I applaud the OP for encouraging everyone to call your local precinct offices and informing them of this. Everyone (voters and poll workers) need to be informed and they need to tell these assholes to take a hike. They have no authority to speak to anyone who is voting or call anyone out.

And if anyone thinks that this is harmless. These truethevote volunteers were all over the Wisconsin precincts--questioning young people who were voting. In concert, they were telling these voters that college students could not vote. It's been documented. Many people left without voting. This is very serious and these people are trying to steal elections. They're not playing around---so at the very least--we should not be caught off guard by them.

Because I know about this--I will be sure to tell them to fuck off if they so much as look at me the wrong way. Had I not known, I would have maybe assumed that they were legitimate poll workers or watchers.

Everyone needs to know about this! Yes, Glenn Beck is a joke and the tea-party is a joke. It's easy to write them off as loons. However, when they're dissuading people from voting--they need to be taken VERY seriously.

Patiod

(11,816 posts)
10. I really, really, really want them to come to the city of Philadelphia
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 10:37 AM
Oct 2012

I want them to start challenging Democrats in the city.

Not delicate Main Line society girls but real red-blooded city Democrats - union people, gay people, black people - I really want them to get into people's faces in South Philly, in the gayborhood, and in North Philly and "true the vote".

I hope they have good health insurance. That's all I'm saying.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
11. The OP was edited twice ...
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 10:44 AM
Oct 2012

Its first version left little clue that the OP was alerting people against this group: it has been amended to reflect what two posters have pointed out. I'm not suggesting a troll is involved--just that people need to be clear when they post something.



mopinko

(70,261 posts)
12. does anyone have an idea WHERE these cretins are planning to be?
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 11:43 AM
Oct 2012

specifically, any midwest swing states? i am in chicago, and there is nothing important to do here. i would dearly, dearly love to go pollwatch where these morons are. milwaukee maybe? seems like their sort of spot.

Tippy

(4,610 posts)
13. Tell me is Larry Klayman still in charge of Judicial Watch?
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 12:00 PM
Oct 2012

Larry Klayman is a certifiable lunatic and I'm surprised Judical Watch is still around...He loves to hate anything to do with the Democratic Party..

mrmpa

(4,033 posts)
14. I work the polls her in PA every election...........
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 12:15 PM
Oct 2012

My brother is Judge of Elections @ this site. We do not let anyone in the polling place but voters, workers & those with signed authorization from the Board of Elections as watchers.

We have a Constable at our site (every site does) & we use him/her to rid our site of those who are not permitted in the polling area. If true the vote would show up, they will be escorted out.

cecilfirefox

(784 posts)
16. This is something folks need to realize about poll watchers- they need permission,
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 12:23 PM
Oct 2012

Signed permission from the County Clerk's office to be able to function as a poll observer/watcher. We had two in the primary of 2010 in Kansas, and that was the first I ever saw of any. If anyone just shows up loitering around, saying their watching and trying to be some sort of 'security' or stop against voter fraud- then go tell the election workers and don't leave until their gone. Don't engage them as such that you're provoking a response and making a scene. But make sure you see them either asked to leave or removed- and if the poll workers are the lost type who don't know what to do, or act like it's fine, call the County Clerk yourself- they'll get a boot up their ass so quick it'll make them jump!

diabeticman

(3,121 posts)
17. That's good to know. My wife and I have been hearing about True To Vote for weeks on Rachel's
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 12:34 PM
Oct 2012

show and a couple other places. She's a little more concern about their actions than I am but I thought I'd make people aware of them espeically since the person she talk to never heard of them.


Can this group stand outside the polling place or does the 100 ft rule apply?

Also it seems from the website they are encouraging members to actually become a poll worker and look for voter fraud from inside. Are there special instructions poll workers are given?

I was shocked the woman my wife spoke with never heard of True To Vote.

Thank your brother for his work to keep elections going smoothly.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
26. That 100 foot rule will depend either on your state or
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 03:41 PM
Oct 2012

on your local jurisdiction. In some areas it's common for supporters of one side or the other or both to be at exactly the distance allowed from the polling place and pass out literature, etc. In others, that's just not done.

But whatever the legal distance is, everyone not certified to be inside, must abide by that distance.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
21. Not a problem in this State, nor in the next...
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 01:35 PM
Oct 2012

we don't do those polling places. We vote by mail. We skip much, much bullshit and we get great turnout, or ballot return rates.
The Tea Baggers are powerless to intimidate Oregonian voters. That's how we like it.

abolugi

(417 posts)
22. In CA
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 02:06 PM
Oct 2012

Our county clerk recorder sent all voters a notice saying a group that calls itself ‘Election Integrity Project’ "intends to send hundreds of observers to polling places around the State, ostensibly to insure the integrity of the vote...While the majority of voters cast their votes other than in polling places, we will be especially vigilant to assure that the constitutional rights of poll workers and those who vote in polls are protected from any attempts to threaten or intimidate.

“Three constituents phoned saying President Obama has ordered ballots to be sent to Spain for counting. Not true: We count them right here..."

I'm not sure if these people are related to True the Vote or not but there are apparently many groups pulling this.
And, yeah, I'm really sure that President Obama sends the ballots to Spain to be counted!!

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
23. Aren't poll-watchers de rigueur? Just get the highest-ranking Democrat at the polling place to throw
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 02:10 PM
Oct 2012

the bums out!

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