You have already redefined marriage...

[Playinghardball]

[arcane1]

2. You need to read more history. We had family for centuries before we ever had marriage.

Sometimes I feel like I've time-traveled to the Bronze Age

[DURHAM D]

4. no kidding...

[uppityperson]

8. MIRT got them after a 6-0 hide. Thanks MIRT

[arcane1]

9. MIRT is going to have some serious carpal tunnel syndrome by election day!

I salute them!

[Ruby the Liberal]

3. One has to be married in order to have children?

And conversely, one can't be in a same-sex relationship and raise children?

Because this will "disturb the balance of the ecosystem"?

[Indpndnt]

5. Back up.

"...giving birth to children and raising them up can no longer be a fundamental commitment of a marriage, because same sex couples cannot fulfill that."

All of those babies that are born if Roe v. Wade is overturned, where are they going to go? Workhouses? Orphanages? Or are you going to adopt? Because, not only is surrogacy or artificial insemination very viable (and proven) options for same sex couples, so is adoption.

If marriage is so important, why were Adam and Eve not married? Marriage as it exists today didn't exist for centuries. However did the ecosystem survive to reach this point?

[DURHAM D]

6. drivel

[uppityperson]

7. To add on to the other replies, since me and my spouse never procreated, should we not be able to be

married?

Can gay couples (women of course) not give birth and raise children?

Children are naturally curious and like to try out different experiences. Since they were taught that marriage can be with the same or opposite sex, they are free to try out either or both. Sexual activities have pleasure and can be addictive especially when one party takes the initiative to maintain the relationship. The argument of nature or nurture over sexual orientation is a long debate but environment certainly have its role to shape a person.

People become gay because they are raised in gay households? Those who you say should not marry because they can not give birth or raise children? Huh.

The argument of nature vs nurture regarding sexual orientation is not a long debate at all.