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(8,084 posts)flying_wahini
(6,594 posts)I may print this and stick it on my car next to my I love Obamacare sticker!
Amak8
(142 posts)The data, Gøtzsche has maintained for more than a decade, does not support mass screening as a preventive measure. Screening does not cut breast cancer deaths by 30%, it saves probably one life for every 2,000 women who go for a mammogram. But it harms 10 others. Cancerous cells that will go away again or never progress to disease in the woman's lifetime are excised with surgery and sometimes (six times in 10) she will lose a breast. Treatment with radiotherapy and drugs, as well as the surgery itself, all have a heavy mental and physical cost.
"I believe the time has come to realise that breast cancer screening programmes can no longer be justified," Gøtzsche said. "I recommend women to do nothing apart from attending a doctor if they notice anything themselves."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/jan/23/breast-cancer-screening-not-justified
eggplant
(3,911 posts)Whether getting them is a good idea or not has NOTHING to do with the OP.
Paka
(2,760 posts)Amak8
(142 posts)Sounds like Mitt's justification for putting $700 billion back into Medicare for stuff that doesn't work.
nolabear
(41,963 posts)Nowhere in the OP does it say money will be spent on ineffective and misleading mammograms. That's utterly another issue. What's your point in raising this argument here?
trailmonkee
(2,681 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,002 posts)(on edit: 47)
It doesn't mean they all get mammograms tomorrow.
It means it is now an option where it was not before.
littlemissmartypants
(22,656 posts)Bernardo de La Paz! Thank you!
littlemissmartypants
(22,656 posts)If you want to have a legit discussion about health care costs we need more than a one liner and not a hijack of someone trying to spread some good news. Thank you.
trailmonkee
(2,681 posts)I think the flame-off will keep the thread kicked, which means more people will see and more people will post to facebook and twitter which means even more people will see
this info needs to be burned in the brains of everybody... I really do think, even with all the hullabaloo (and rightfully so) about the 47% etc, it will come down to the women who will be the force to move us forward (sounds kind of flighty.... but i believe it to be true)
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)You're right about women being a powerful force!
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)best interests.
tblue
(16,350 posts)It freaks me out.
MineralMan
(146,309 posts)I'm just saying. Are you a physician? Do you deal with women who may need a mammogram? I'm pretty sure women want to hear from their physicians, not some anonymous new DUer. What do you think?
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)and, more importantly, survivors cannot be "pre-existing'd" by the Big Insurance Death Panels
littlemissmartypants
(22,656 posts)Trailmonkee! LMSP
ProfessionalLeftist
(4,982 posts)because Obama is for Women.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)I want this and the OP bumper stickers. !!!!!