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Samantha

(9,314 posts)
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 08:48 PM Sep 2012

Nate Silver has Florida at a 69.4 chance of an Obama Win

Other strategic swing states:

Virginia 76.5 percent chance of Obama win
Ohio 83.9 percent chance of Obama win
Pennsylvania 97.1 percent chance of Obama win

The icing on the cake, at least for me:

Michigan 96.8 percent chance of Obama win
Wisconsin 89.7 percent chance of Obama win (thank you, Paul Ryan; hopefully your local constituents will be rejecting you as well to represent them in Congress)

319.3 Electoral College Votes Projected for Obama
218.7 Electoral College Votes Projected for Romney

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/author/nate-silver/

And my prediction: looks like it is only going to be further downhill from here for Romney/Ryan. Could not have happened to two better deserving politicians....

Sam

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Nate Silver has Florida at a 69.4 chance of an Obama Win (Original Post) Samantha Sep 2012 OP
Wow. 100 point electoral college spread = landslide. JaneyVee Sep 2012 #1
On second thought, I should have ended that thread with the question: Samantha Sep 2012 #4
100,000 voters here or there. I don't know just yet, but we will see. hrmjustin Sep 2012 #2
I really think in the remaining time left Samantha Sep 2012 #6
I think you are right , but you never know. hrmjustin Sep 2012 #7
Well, I just read that article on the Home Page about the voting machines known for flipping totals Samantha Sep 2012 #32
Yeh...but they gotta get out and vote. RagAss Sep 2012 #3
I don't think there is a lack of enthusiasm on the Democratic side Samantha Sep 2012 #11
Not where I am...I do worry about complacency, however, since these polls do not seem.... RagAss Sep 2012 #30
By now, they've got to have patched together their "But he doesn't have a mandate" talking point IDemo Sep 2012 #5
They are probably working on Samantha Sep 2012 #12
Silver's final 2008 presidential election forecast accurately predicted the winner of 49 of the 50 oberliner Sep 2012 #8
Yes he does, and that is why Samantha Sep 2012 #13
I hear ya oberliner Sep 2012 #27
No, no. Mitt's gonna win Pennsylvania. Arugula Latte Sep 2012 #9
I heard him say that and laughed Samantha Sep 2012 #15
If Romney doesn't win Florida, it's almost impossible for him: cleduc Sep 2012 #10
I believe I heard the only chance if he lost FLA would be carrying the rest of the swing states Samantha Sep 2012 #16
If we take Ohio, Florida, or Virginia, any of those 3, there is no way Romney can win. KevTucky Sep 2012 #14
We will most certainly win Florida and Ohio. Aldo Leopold Sep 2012 #21
I hope Nate's as right about this as he was about the 2010 red wave. SunSeeker Sep 2012 #17
I think he is pretty deadly accurate Samantha Sep 2012 #20
Is there a race in Wisconsin? littlemissmartypants Sep 2012 #18
I ask again: How did Nate factor in all the voter fraud and suppression in his calculation? Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2012 #19
Well, I don't see you asked that before but you would have to ask him that Samantha Sep 2012 #22
I've been putting forth this question for quite some time now. Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2012 #26
He puts it at 1 to 2% in some states like PA with the voter ID law. Jennicut Sep 2012 #24
Thanks for pointing to this explanation Samantha Sep 2012 #29
Romney is a butthead Aerows Sep 2012 #23
I'd like to think Florida has finally come to its senses. lpbk2713 Sep 2012 #25
We voted for him last time! watercolors Sep 2012 #31
I'm hopeful Ryan made a career ending move B Calm Sep 2012 #28

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
4. On second thought, I should have ended that thread with the question:
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 08:58 PM
Sep 2012

How low can they go (Romney/Ryan)....

Thanks for posting on my thread.

Sam

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
6. I really think in the remaining time left
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 09:09 PM
Sep 2012

President Obama and Vice President Biden will only increase their lead. I truly believe that.

Thanks for posting on my thread.

Sam

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
32. Well, I just read that article on the Home Page about the voting machines known for flipping totals
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 06:20 PM
Sep 2012

and who owns those machines. So I do realize that in an election as hard fought and dirty as this one has become, with the dirt obviously being slung by the right, anything can happen at any time, especially on election night.

So I was sure after reading that article and the number of states where those machines are located, I wouldn't be able to sleep tonight. I sent the link and a couple of pertinent paragraphs to the Obama re-election team just now.

We can't take anything for granted except there will be a massive slight of hand in operation the night of the election and we need to prepared to deal with that.

Thanks for listening, and thanks for posting on my thread.

Sam

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
11. I don't think there is a lack of enthusiasm on the Democratic side
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 09:49 PM
Sep 2012

Do you? Thanks for posting on my thread.

Sam

RagAss

(13,832 posts)
30. Not where I am...I do worry about complacency, however, since these polls do not seem....
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 09:54 AM
Sep 2012

to be tightening up. I just hope they reflect likely voters as they claim.

IDemo

(16,926 posts)
5. By now, they've got to have patched together their "But he doesn't have a mandate" talking point
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 08:59 PM
Sep 2012

Won't matter if it's a landslide.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
12. They are probably working on
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 10:00 PM
Sep 2012

Republicans lost due to massive voter fraud by the Dems....

Thanks for posting on my thread.

Sam

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
8. Silver's final 2008 presidential election forecast accurately predicted the winner of 49 of the 50
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 09:23 PM
Sep 2012

states as well as the District of Columbia.

Pretty good track record!

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
13. Yes he does, and that is why
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 10:32 PM
Sep 2012

I started checking his site just about every day when I got tired of hearing the MSM saying how close the election was. Felt better ever since I did.

Thanks for posting on my thread.

Sam

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
15. I heard him say that and laughed
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 11:09 PM
Sep 2012

I noticed he did not say how....

Thanks for posting on my thread.

Sam

 

cleduc

(653 posts)
10. If Romney doesn't win Florida, it's almost impossible for him:
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 09:33 PM
Sep 2012

Romney would have to win all of these tossups or Obama leaners:
North Carolina
Nevada
Colorado
New Hampshire
Iowa
Ohio 83.9 percent chance of Obama win
Virginia 76.5 percent chance of Obama win

Plus one of these:
Wisconsin 89.7 percent chance of Obama win
Michigan 96.8 percent chance of Obama win
Pennsylvania 97.1 percent chance of Obama win (no ads running since Aug and no rallies since July)

You can play with the map here:
http://www.270towin.com/

What Romney-Ryan truthfully plan to do with Medicare/Medicaid is deadly for their chances in Florida. Obama has been spending $5 mil per week on ads in Florida alone to nail Mitt on that.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
16. I believe I heard the only chance if he lost FLA would be carrying the rest of the swing states
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 11:19 PM
Sep 2012

As in, all of them.

Well, looks like 49.1 to 50.1 in NC with Romney narrowly projected to win in the popular vote; Nate still gives Romney a 59 percent chance of winning it (NC), but other than that even Iowa is at 74.6 percent chance of an Obama win, and the rest are all heavily going towards President Obama (to address the first part of your post)

I don't think there is even a remote chance of Romney winning one of the states in the second part of your post, short of stealing it, but the margin of win is so great now, it might be to great for them to attempt (to address the second part of your post)

In short, I don't see how Romney wins.

Thanks so much for posting on my thread. I would love to see Florida be the state to win it for President Obama.

Sam

KevTucky

(90 posts)
14. If we take Ohio, Florida, or Virginia, any of those 3, there is no way Romney can win.
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 11:08 PM
Sep 2012

What are the odds R Moneysweeps those? The Pres. takes at least two of those 3, with a sweep a decent chance.

SunSeeker

(51,574 posts)
17. I hope Nate's as right about this as he was about the 2010 red wave.
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 11:28 PM
Sep 2012

I didn't believe him in 2010. I thought there's no way people are that stupid. They were. Maybe now they realized they were hustled. All those teabaggers promising jobs and smaller government just passed big government laws putting government right up your hooha, but blocked every jobs bill.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
20. I think he is pretty deadly accurate
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 11:41 PM
Sep 2012

with the only deviance being in when some slight of hand is involved....

Thanks for posting on my thread.

Sam

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
22. Well, I don't see you asked that before but you would have to ask him that
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 11:48 PM
Sep 2012

After all these years, there should be a component factored into the equation contained within the margin of error calculation; but as far as the literal county-by-county results being flipped remotely, I think all bets are off then.

Why don't you ask Nate Silver, the expert?

Sam

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
26. I've been putting forth this question for quite some time now.
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 05:53 AM
Sep 2012

Don't know how I would get it to him but maybe I'll try and find his email.

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
24. He puts it at 1 to 2% in some states like PA with the voter ID law.
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 12:02 AM
Sep 2012

But probably much less in Florida. No other swing state has a voter ID law like this.

"The vast majority of adults do have some sort of identification.
Many people who do not have identification are not registered to vote — or if they are registered, they are unlikely to turn out.
The laws may be inconsistently enforced by thousands and thousands of poll workers at the precinct level.
In many cases, voters without proper identification can cast a provisional ballot, which could eventually be counted in the event of a vote-counting dispute.
The campaigns have an opportunity to educate their voters about ID requirements as part of their turnout operations."

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/07/15/measuring-the-effects-of-voter-identification-laws/

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
29. Thanks for pointing to this explanation
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 07:15 AM
Sep 2012

It was very helpful. I have bookmarked it for re-reading.

Sam

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
23. Romney is a butthead
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 11:50 PM
Sep 2012

I can't put it any nicer than that. Even the people that are voting "for" him are only doing to it vote against President Obama. Nothing says enthusiasm at the polls like "well, I hate you less than the other guy, despite the fact that you suck".

lpbk2713

(42,759 posts)
25. I'd like to think Florida has finally come to its senses.
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 12:06 AM
Sep 2012



After so many years of voting against their own interests and then making
that incompetent asshole Governor I'd have to think it's about time.


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