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RandySF

(59,023 posts)
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 05:22 PM Sep 2012

In Debate, Romney Plans To Drop ‘Zingers’ On Obama

Looking forward to the first presidential debate next week, Mitt Romney has a plan: Knock President Obama off his game with some well-rehearsed "zingers," reports the New York Times:

Mr. Romney’s team has concluded that debates are about creating moments and has equipped him with a series of zingers that he has memorized and has been practicing on aides since August. His strategy includes luring the president into appearing smug or evasive about his responsibility for the economy.


http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/in-debate-romney-plans-to-drop-zingers-on

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In Debate, Romney Plans To Drop ‘Zingers’ On Obama (Original Post) RandySF Sep 2012 OP
But I thought he was going to "fact check" Obama? emulatorloo Sep 2012 #1
And all Obama has to do to defuse it is to bring it up in the opening remarks. Happyhippychick Sep 2012 #2
I'm sure Obama will give him some zingers right back. southernyankeebelle Sep 2012 #17
Is that your position today, or is that your position from yesterday? kiri Sep 2012 #25
Romney has so many positions that Kama Sutra offered him a job aletier_v Sep 2012 #29
LOL, as if! CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2012 #47
And then he'll need as many wives as Gramps had in Mexico. WinkyDink Sep 2012 #59
I have a feeling Obama will have no problem explaining the LibDemAlways Sep 2012 #3
This campaign sets new records for pathetic every day BeyondGeography Sep 2012 #4
Zinger number 15: "bet I can float longer than you...watch me, watch me." sad sally Sep 2012 #5
Chairman Mao once did that trick. Reportedly. JackRiddler Sep 2012 #50
What would be some zingers Dumney might use? Lint Head Sep 2012 #6
#MittZingers is trending on Twitter pinboy3niner Sep 2012 #20
These are hilarious! tallahasseedem Sep 2012 #37
Ho ho ananda Sep 2012 #7
I'll bet he'll make clever use of various pulleys, gears and levers too!! HughBeaumont Sep 2012 #8
Fight back with Twinkies! randome Sep 2012 #9
Ooh, this is gonna be fun. Brewinblue Sep 2012 #10
i can't wait to catch slappy's schtick.. frylock Sep 2012 #11
WHY DON'T THEY ANNOUNCE IT AT THE TOP OF THEIR LUNGS?! lunatica Sep 2012 #12
I dont understand why they would announce this. bunnies Sep 2012 #13
One wag suggested they were out of ideas pinboy3niner Sep 2012 #16
LMFAO. There's probably a dark truth there (about being bereft of ideas), which is why it is coalition_unwilling Sep 2012 #24
it takes RR's team an average of 3 hours, 45 minutes to issue a retraction of latest remarks kiri Sep 2012 #26
What's the stats on a retraction of a retraction? What about a retroactive retraction? aletier_v Sep 2012 #30
Exactly my thought. morningfog Sep 2012 #39
If they didn't announce it... regnaD kciN Sep 2012 #41
He will have his dozen or so "zingers" memorized, The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2012 #14
You gotta go with what you got, but an actual plan might work better. quaker bill Sep 2012 #15
Lead balloons get the red out Sep 2012 #18
If true, this doesn't sound like a good idea. David__77 Sep 2012 #19
Sorry, Mitt. The I knew Jack Kennedy line has already been taken. Whovian Sep 2012 #21
Bring it on Mittens! Glimmer of Hope Sep 2012 #22
A "zinger" delivered badly will backfire. Can't wait. Mitt does not do "zingers" well. yellowcanine Sep 2012 #23
He doesn't do that very well either. hobbit709 Sep 2012 #27
"Oh, yeah well, that's what SHE said". aletier_v Sep 2012 #28
Obama should just give him the raspberry. randome Sep 2012 #31
Plans to drop Zingers on President Obama? sadbear Sep 2012 #32
Hey, there's yellow and red zingers too! aletier_v Sep 2012 #33
Well, they used to make 'vanilla' Zingers, too. Don't know if they still do. randome Sep 2012 #35
Will he have a drummer on hand to do a rimshot? nolabear Sep 2012 #34
"There you go again." or "O, if it were only so..." nt Honeycombe8 Sep 2012 #36
He'll never be able to pull it off, he'll "zing" then give his Beavis/Butthead hee hee hee and look Raine Sep 2012 #38
Obama should say: "I hope you didn't spend too much time practicing that one." morningfog Sep 2012 #40
Giving zingers to a man with no comedic timing... gkhouston Sep 2012 #42
"Where's the beef?" no_hypocrisy Sep 2012 #43
A zinger aletier_v Sep 2012 #44
Zingers? Isn't that a snack cake from Dolly Madison? bulloney Sep 2012 #45
Hostess: pinboy3niner Sep 2012 #46
He's going to wave them at Obama! Maybe even poke them in Obama's general direction! Fire Walk With Me Sep 2012 #49
So, let me get this straight.... bulloney Sep 2012 #51
That sounds like so much fail just waiting to happen, I might even watch it Fire Walk With Me Sep 2012 #48
Methinks he's going to be dropping some turds...nt PCIntern Sep 2012 #52
This has 'epic disaster' written all over it. I knew Romney wanted to use Reagan's... JHB Sep 2012 #53
Can you imagine being around Romney the last 2 months while he practices his "zingers" ad nauseum? NBachers Sep 2012 #54
Yeah- he can use ones like "you would let women who havent even been LEGITIMIATELY raped, Warren DeMontague Sep 2012 #55
"How can you know about the experiences of the little people, when you dont even have Warren DeMontague Sep 2012 #56
"I know your Health Care law is bad, because I helped write it!" Warren DeMontague Sep 2012 #57
Shaking in his boots, Obama is. NOT. "Is this election a joke to you, Mitt?" WinkyDink Sep 2012 #58

emulatorloo

(44,143 posts)
1. But I thought he was going to "fact check" Obama?
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 05:28 PM
Sep 2012

I guess somebody thought that through. Wouldn't look good for Mitt to keep saying, "Obama is correct, and none of my ads and claims can survive a fact-check."

Happyhippychick

(8,379 posts)
2. And all Obama has to do to defuse it is to bring it up in the opening remarks.
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 05:28 PM
Sep 2012

He can say "I've heard my opponent is going to use some clever repartee, I look forward to hearing what his advisors have written" and Romney will be done.

But Obama is so smart he no doubt is confident about his strategy.

kiri

(796 posts)
25. Is that your position today, or is that your position from yesterday?
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 06:58 PM
Sep 2012

An excellent tactic for Obama: Ask, "Is that your position today, or is that your position from yesterday?"
Next time: "Is that your position today or from last week?"
"Is that your position today or your position from 2008?"

By the third time, Mittie will be in a red-faced rage.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
3. I have a feeling Obama will have no problem explaining the
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 05:28 PM
Sep 2012

economic mess he inherited from the last Repuke President. Romney goes there at his own peril.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
20. #MittZingers is trending on Twitter
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 06:25 PM
Sep 2012
Elon James White?@elonjames
I wont apologize for my success like Obama apologizes for AMERICA! No I dont have proof of him saying that but, um...socialism? #MittZingers

David Waldman?@KagroX
Knock knock! Who's there? Posthumous baptism! #MittZingers

Brinda Estrella?@BrindaStar
I had a good joke but now I'm against it. #MittZingers

Jeremy Littau?@JeremyLittau
OK, fine. I've never had a Zinger. But I do know the owner of Hostess. #MittZingers

Lisa SQOP Bloom?@BloomUtopia
Mr President, tear down that safety net! #MittZingers

I'm Chastastic!?@ThatsMyDILFbert
"I came from a real poor neighborhood. Why,one time Juan had to park the Rolls next to a Benz. Oh, the humanity…" #MittZingers





For more, go to the first link in the OP posted in GD by highplainsdem:

#MittZingers is now trending on Twitter
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021436367

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
8. I'll bet he'll make clever use of various pulleys, gears and levers too!!
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 05:38 PM
Sep 2012

The Late Carl Stalling will provide the soundtrack.

Brewinblue

(392 posts)
10. Ooh, this is gonna be fun.
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 05:42 PM
Sep 2012

What an ultra maroon. The debates are going resemble a Bugs Bunny cartoon, with Obama as Bugs, and Mitt as Elmer Fudd.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
12. WHY DON'T THEY ANNOUNCE IT AT THE TOP OF THEIR LUNGS?!
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 05:52 PM
Sep 2012

Everyone knows no one in the White House reads progressive political blogs.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
16. One wag suggested they were out of ideas
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 06:14 PM
Sep 2012

And by leaking the story, the RMoney campaign hoped to collect some usable suggestions from comments on Twitter and the blogosphere.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
24. LMFAO. There's probably a dark truth there (about being bereft of ideas), which is why it is
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 06:46 PM
Sep 2012

so damned funny

kiri

(796 posts)
26. it takes RR's team an average of 3 hours, 45 minutes to issue a retraction of latest remarks
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 07:03 PM
Sep 2012

Obama can note:
By the way, it takes your team an average of 3 hours, 45 minutes to issue a retraction of your latest remarks, reverses your position 180 degrees, or "clarifies" what you might have meant. That is too long for this debate.

But this means in a typical campaign day, you get to have 4 re-writes, retractions, reversals.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
39. Exactly my thought.
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 07:28 PM
Sep 2012

It is true that debates hinge on "the moments," but announcing that you have moments rehearsed is so amateur and will dull the moments.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,781 posts)
14. He will have his dozen or so "zingers" memorized,
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 06:08 PM
Sep 2012

and then, with typical Romneysian aplomb, he will drop them in completely inappropriate and unrelated contexts, once again demonstrating that he doesn't know how to behave like an actual human.

Obama: My economic plan will create jobs and reduce the deficit.
Romney: Your mother swims after troop ships. Bazinga! Ha. Ha. Ha. I'll be here all week. Don't forget to tip the waitress. Ha. Ha. Ha.

David__77

(23,431 posts)
19. If true, this doesn't sound like a good idea.
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 06:21 PM
Sep 2012

Romney is no master of timing - sounds like a bad recipe.

 

Whovian

(2,866 posts)
21. Sorry, Mitt. The I knew Jack Kennedy line has already been taken.
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 06:32 PM
Sep 2012

Careful, dude, you don't want to bring a knife to this gunfight.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
23. A "zinger" delivered badly will backfire. Can't wait. Mitt does not do "zingers" well.
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 06:42 PM
Sep 2012

He would be better off focusing on explaining how he would govern.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
31. Obama should just give him the raspberry.
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 07:19 PM
Sep 2012

And then respond to every question with an impression of Curly: "Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk, nyuk."

He'd still sound more coherent than Romney.

aletier_v

(1,773 posts)
33. Hey, there's yellow and red zingers too!
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 07:22 PM
Sep 2012

Maybe Romney can pull Elizabeth Warren into the circus show.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
38. He'll never be able to pull it off, he'll "zing" then give his Beavis/Butthead hee hee hee and look
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 07:26 PM
Sep 2012

and sound like the idiot that he is.

gkhouston

(21,642 posts)
42. Giving zingers to a man with no comedic timing...
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 07:31 PM
Sep 2012


It reminds me of back when my sister had a British boyfriend who wanted to learn out to speak with a Southern accent. His rendition of, "His mama and my mama was that close," was so pathetically bad that it had us all in stitches, including him.

aletier_v

(1,773 posts)
44. A zinger
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 07:34 PM
Sep 2012

OMG, not even a real debate.

I can picture Romney's advisors - "Okay, we can't debate on real policy crap, let's just go for the easy zingers".

bulloney

(4,113 posts)
45. Zingers? Isn't that a snack cake from Dolly Madison?
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 07:55 PM
Sep 2012

What's Mitt going to do? Throw snack cakes at the president during the debate?

That could get messy.

 

Fire Walk With Me

(38,893 posts)
49. He's going to wave them at Obama! Maybe even poke them in Obama's general direction!
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 08:11 PM
Sep 2012

The Secret Service will take him down. Kewl.

bulloney

(4,113 posts)
51. So, let me get this straight....
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 08:12 PM
Sep 2012

We could see a Twinkie throwing Zingers at the debate and going "Ho Ho" to himself from being so proud.

That about covers the line of Hostess products.

JHB

(37,161 posts)
53. This has 'epic disaster' written all over it. I knew Romney wanted to use Reagan's...
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 08:31 PM
Sep 2012

... 1980 "There you go again" line, but to depend on them as a strategy? And telegraph it so nakedly?

Reagan was an excellent public speaker. His fan club may overblow his "Great Communicator" rep, but that reputation didn't come from nowhere. On top of that, Reagan had a copy of Carter's playbook, the debate briefing book used in now-infamous practice debates with George Will. He knew the points Carter would bring up, Carter's lines of argument and potential responses, all things that were enormous multipliers to his talents as a speaker. He could prepare his "zingers" ahead of time and had a pretty good idea of when to deploy them.

In contrast, one of his worst moments in the 1984 election was in trying to re-use the "there you go again" line against Mondale. It really didn't get him anything and it let Mondale slap him right back by reminding everyone that Reagan had been wrong when he used it against Carter.


Obama is a much more agile speaker than Mitt is. He can shift gears without grinding the clutch. If Mitt's depending on some pre-memorized 'zingers' and everyone knows he's doing that[/i, odds favor Obama giving him fencing lessons: in particular schooling him on the meaning of 'parry and riposte'.

Or maybe 'fish slapping:

NBachers

(17,128 posts)
54. Can you imagine being around Romney the last 2 months while he practices his "zingers" ad nauseum?
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 09:12 PM
Sep 2012

I can just hear Queen Ann shrieking, "Stop It! Stop It!"

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
55. Yeah- he can use ones like "you would let women who havent even been LEGITIMIATELY raped,
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 09:15 PM
Sep 2012

Get abortions!"



ZZZZZZING!

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
56. "How can you know about the experiences of the little people, when you dont even have
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 09:17 PM
Sep 2012

A team of Mexicans to groom your dressage horse and operate your car elevator?"


ZZZZZZING!

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