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trumad

(41,692 posts)
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 08:13 AM Sep 2012

Explosive Story: Suspicious voter registration forms found in 10 Florida counties

Read down further in the linked story--- so basically these false forms are in the name of real voters. BUT---the information is false such as addresses, birth-dates, etc. When the real voter goes to vote, there is conflicting records, hence the possibility from keeping them from voting or having to cast a provisional ballot.

WASHINGTON — Florida elections officials said Friday that at least 10 counties have identified suspicious and possibly fraudulent voter registration forms turned in by a firm working for the Republican Party of Florida, which has filed an election fraud complaint with the state Division of Elections against its one-time consultant.

The controversy in Florida -- which began with possibly fraudulent forms that first cropped up in Palm Beach County -- has engulfed the Republican National Committee, which admitted Thursday that it urged state parties in seven swing states to hire the firm, Strategic Allied Consulting.The RNC paid the company at least $3.1 million -- routed through the state parties of Florida, Nevada, Colorado, North Carolina and Virginia -- to register voters and run get-out-the-vote operations. Wisconsin and Ohio had not yet paid the firm for get-out-the-vote operations it was contracted to do.

The RNC severed its ties to the firm Thursday after questions arose about the work Strategic Allied did in Palm Beach County, where election officials have turned over to prosecutors 106 voter registration forms submitted by one worker, some of which contained apparent forgeries and other problems.

Now elections officials across Florida are scrutinizing voter registration forms turned in to their counties on behalf of the state Republican Party. The state elections division is also investigating.

Florida GOP officials – who said they hired Strategic Allied at the request of the RNC – alleged in their complaint Thursday that the firm turned in forms with fake signatures and false information, said Chris Cate, spokesman for the Division of Elections, which will turn over its findings to the Florida Department of Law Enforcement.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/nationworld/la-pn-voter-registration-florida-republicans-20120928,0,7472042.story
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Explosive Story: Suspicious voter registration forms found in 10 Florida counties (Original Post) trumad Sep 2012 OP
Funny how all this alleged voter fraud always seems to be tied to the Republicans hobbit709 Sep 2012 #1
Election fraud exists Sekhmets Daughter Sep 2012 #8
But the Rs seem to do it at the wholesale level. hobbit709 Sep 2012 #9
LOL Sekhmets Daughter Sep 2012 #17
Show your work, please. We are looking at GOP fraud, where is the 'both Parties' Bluenorthwest Sep 2012 #12
Read Robert Caro's Sekhmets Daughter Sep 2012 #18
Can someone explain to me: were they screwing up the reg forms of Dem voters? Mayberry Machiavelli Sep 2012 #2
I'm certain---although the story doesn't say it... trumad Sep 2012 #3
I remember hearing about Sproul associates, perhaps as early as 2004? Mayberry Machiavelli Sep 2012 #4
IOKYAR hobbit709 Sep 2012 #10
You want to hear about a nasty surprise.... Sekhmets Daughter Sep 2012 #20
This is actually very good news Grateful for Hope Sep 2012 #5
ReTHUGs in name and nature malaise Sep 2012 #6
The Supervisor of Elections Sekhmets Daughter Sep 2012 #7
Hmmmm... kentuck Sep 2012 #11
Many things they do are for diversion. Look at the number of Republicans who Bluenorthwest Sep 2012 #13
Well, the good part is republicans finally found voter fraud. bluestate10 Sep 2012 #14
What the fuck is it supposed to mean that they "severed their ties"? 1-Old-Man Sep 2012 #15
That means "That's the end of it..." kentuck Sep 2012 #16
The latter...which will be the third incanation, at least. Sekhmets Daughter Sep 2012 #19

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
1. Funny how all this alleged voter fraud always seems to be tied to the Republicans
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 08:17 AM
Sep 2012

when there is an actual case of it.

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
8. Election fraud exists
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 09:26 AM
Sep 2012

and both parties have been guilty of it...but it exists at the party level and precinct level.

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
9. But the Rs seem to do it at the wholesale level.
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 09:30 AM
Sep 2012

and I can easily find you 10 to 1 on the ACTUAL verified fraud cases.

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
17. LOL
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 05:10 PM
Sep 2012

You should read Robert Caro's biography of Lyndon Johnson....or look into what the Democratic Party did in NYC back in the days....Don't delude yourself, election fraud has been going on since the very first election.... What is different today is that the GOP has concluded they have so much money and so much power they can do it in plain sight.

I am not excusing this latest power grab, but I'm not naive when it comes to the history of election fraud in the US.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
12. Show your work, please. We are looking at GOP fraud, where is the 'both Parties'
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 09:34 AM
Sep 2012

part? Both are guilty of this? In what specific cases were Democrats guilty of election fraud?

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
18. Read Robert Caro's
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 09:13 PM
Sep 2012

Biography of Lyndon Johnson....Your hair will stand on end. Read about Tammany Hall in NYC. Old man Kennedy and the Daley family of Chicago. Election fraud has been going on since the first election. The Republicans have simply become much more blatant about it.

Two days ago a postal worker informed me that she dropped off over 100 ballots to the same address in Riviera Beach...it is a primarily African American community. She said she didn't recognize any of the names on the ballots. I'm hoping that the homeowner is simply acting on the behalf of homeless people, (perhaps for her church)...you don't have to own a home or have a lease in order to vote....

It is incredibly naive to believe that election fraud is confined to one party. Which is not to say we shouldn't do something about it...

Mayberry Machiavelli

(21,096 posts)
2. Can someone explain to me: were they screwing up the reg forms of Dem voters?
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 08:23 AM
Sep 2012

Or those they assessed as likely to be Democratic voters? So they would get a nasty surprise on election day?

Or was it something else designed to create extra Republican voters?

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
3. I'm certain---although the story doesn't say it...
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 08:29 AM
Sep 2012

that these were forms for Democrats.

The guy who runs the thing has already been busted for destroying Democratic registration forms.

Mayberry Machiavelli

(21,096 posts)
4. I remember hearing about Sproul associates, perhaps as early as 2004?
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 08:37 AM
Sep 2012

How is it that the guy could even continue to be in this business, much less not in jail? Because he never had charges filed?

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
20. You want to hear about a nasty surprise....
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 09:21 PM
Sep 2012

In many states convicted felons who have served their time and paid any restitution owed still have to apply to a state board to have their voting rights restored. Florida is one such. Charlie Crist eased the restrictions here (one reason the GOP couldn't wait to cut him out) Scott came into office and made the length of time a felon must wait after fulfilling his/her obligations 7 years. Now they are doing something really creepy. They are sending out very confusing letters to these former felons, in an effort to entrap them on election day.

Extra republican voters was the goal...

Grateful for Hope

(39,320 posts)
5. This is actually very good news
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 09:08 AM
Sep 2012

The more the fraud is exposed before the election, the less chance they can actually steal it.

I have a lot of confidence in the Obama team. I don't think they will get away with it this time.

malaise

(269,103 posts)
6. ReTHUGs in name and nature
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 09:12 AM
Sep 2012

The number of suspicious voter registration applications was unusual, Davis said. “There might be an occasional one, but I don’t think we’ve ever had this number of counties that have had this number of cases all at the same time,” she said.

In Santa Rosa County, elections officials found 100 problematic voter registration applications out of a batch of roughly 400 turned in by the state Republican Party.

“Anyone with any sense would have known there was something wrong,” said elections supervisor Ann W. Bodenstein.

Most were changes in current registrations filed in the names of real voters, but signatures were spelled differently than the applicants’ names. Fake house numbers were given, and date of births did not match the names. The biggest red flag was that most of the forms were missing Social Security numbers.

“It was that flagrant,” she said. “In no way did they look genuine.”

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
7. The Supervisor of Elections
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 09:24 AM
Sep 2012

here in Palm Beach County is a DEMOCRAT...thank goodness or this might has slipped by...

kentuck

(111,106 posts)
11. Hmmmm...
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 09:32 AM
Sep 2012

I guess that is why they are pushing ID laws in so many states - as a diversion to their own criminal activities?

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
13. Many things they do are for diversion. Look at the number of Republicans who
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 09:38 AM
Sep 2012

shout about gay people being a threat to their Sacred marriage while they are in fact having affairs with staff, passersby, professional escorts, the best friend's wife...'look at the gays, not at me and my mistress'.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
14. Well, the good part is republicans finally found voter fraud.
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 09:38 AM
Sep 2012

You folks from Florida, please tell me how I can avoid gas stations that have voting dead people living in them. There are some things that I just don't want to see.

1-Old-Man

(2,667 posts)
15. What the fuck is it supposed to mean that they "severed their ties"?
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 09:39 AM
Sep 2012

The Republican Party 'severed its ties' with the company that did this - what is that supposed to mean. Does it mean that the company will not be paid one red cent? Or does it mean that the company will reform under a different name and continue doing exactly the same work for exactly the same people.

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
19. The latter...which will be the third incanation, at least.
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 09:16 PM
Sep 2012

This outfit was caught shredding the registrations of people who signed up as Democrats and Independents.

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