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Conservative Parents' Greatest Fear... (Original Post) Turborama Sep 2012 OP
...is that their children will turn out to be thinking liberals...n/t CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2012 #1
Really? Conservative parents actually think this? diabeticman Sep 2012 #2
Yes, it's not hyperbole ck4829 Sep 2012 #5
Thanks for link... ReasonableToo Sep 2012 #8
I went to young life undergroundpanther Sep 2012 #12
I went to Young Life, too. pamela Sep 2012 #13
Not only do conservative parents think this; the Texas Republican platform contains it. wakemewhenitsover Sep 2012 #10
"What are you doing with a biology book?" longship Sep 2012 #3
I thought their greatest fear was that their kid is a homosexual davidn3600 Sep 2012 #4
Right Wing Authoritarians are allowed to have several #1 fears ck4829 Sep 2012 #6
they have as many #1 fears as Al Qaeda has #2s in command central scrutinizer Sep 2012 #11
Yes I have met parents like this. Manifestor_of_Light Sep 2012 #7
Finding a copy of "On the Origin of Species" under their mattress ck4829 Sep 2012 #9

ReasonableToo

(505 posts)
8. Thanks for link...
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 09:27 PM
Sep 2012

That explains Young Life which is a "club" that high school friends attended and what I hear about the Christian athletes. They are connecting with kids outside the church. I listened in in a church sponsored-sports camp recently and it seemed very cult-like. Never again.

I also heard a coworker talking about her church coming up with strategies to keep teens involved - trips to amusement parks and laser tag we're high on the list.

"Want some candy little girl?"

undergroundpanther

(11,925 posts)
12. I went to young life
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 11:52 PM
Sep 2012

On "conventions". I went to a young life convention in Ocean City. In the meetings you had to stay in the convention room,no shit,they posted staff to make sure you didn't leave,we all sat on the floor for 3 or 4 hours a pop..Well I had to pee and had been in that room 3 hours trying to keep my legs from going numb.I went to the door told them I had to pee,they escorted me back to my spot on the floor.I sat down,waited until the staff were distracted. I stood up and yelled Young life is a fucking cult GET OUT they are forcing people to stay in this room you have a right to go to the bathroom or get water so go!

And immediately staff came running twords me. People who had to pee also began getting up and they had the effect of tripping the staff going after me.The speaker was trying to restore order and I got out but before I left I yelled anybody who thinks it's wrong to be forced to stay in this room until you pee your pants GO! Wait until tomorrow,lunch.and I took the stairs ran out of the hotel and took a whiz in a restaurant. I wandered around Ocean city.Met up with several others who were pissed off at the long meetings and being forced to go and I told them the plan for lunch.we walked around until that meeting ended,at 4 hours.


We came back for lunch as not much is open in November at ocean city.There was time to spread the word. The signal we agreed on was to flick a soft butter pat onto the ceiling.I carefully wrote in ketchup on the wall young life keeps us captive in the meetings... I waited until staff sorta sat away together not standing over us as we ate.Then I flicked the pat.And we all instigated a riot.I tossed a few things and disappeared with the main instigators before staff came in.Nobody told who started it.Later on I heard it was so crazy,people threw patio furniture in the pool,whipped cream, butter pats& food covered everything. Tables and chairs moved all over the hotel....Then of course next mandatory meeting young life tried to make people feel bad and when the guilt trip began everyone got up pushed past the staff at the door yelling fuck you as planned after 2 hours.


That night we were told to go to sleep at 9 pm we had a full day ahead.Well people didn't sleep,some messed their rooms, set up pranks to get staff,some covered stairwells in whipped cream and greased the elevator buttons and stair rails. It was chaos,but no one really damaged the hotel,or busted /stole anyone's stuff as planned..I went to the beach at 5 am and watched the sun rise and slept until breakfast.I was amazed how much butter was on the ceiling.. Went to next meeting,and my they cut the meeting short,there was to be two activities one game and the other was a game out by the ocean where some people would get tape on their heads vertical or horizontal. Of course staff joined in.I and one of my new found friends were the tapers Some got horizontal others vertical and staff got asterisks. Our secret score was throw a staff in the ocean it's 20 points. The staff got a mighty dunking and when you're wet on a beach in November it's really cold. a half hour later after everyone changed we went home,and young life was barred from that hotel and was put a good chunk of change in damages.Their prominence and popularity in my school was greatly diminished.

I hate authoritarians.

Funny when we met at young life houses it seemed so not authoritarian. I am so glad I didn't get roped into their 7 day Colorado trip. I was 14 years old.


pamela

(3,469 posts)
13. I went to Young Life, too.
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 01:23 AM
Sep 2012

Late 70's in Maryland. Sounds like you might be a Marylander, too? Wow, Young Life was nothing like that when I went. It was pretty progressive. We went to people's houses on weeknights and sang Bob Dylan songs. I did a couple of the retreats but none of ours were in OC. I never did the Colorado one, either. I bet I know the game you played on the beach-there was some weird, ritual game we always used to play at the retreats. I remember it getting pretty rough.

Sorry your experience was so bad. It must have really changed a lot. That makes me sad.

wakemewhenitsover

(1,595 posts)
10. Not only do conservative parents think this; the Texas Republican platform contains it.
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 09:34 PM
Sep 2012

Here is a direct quote from their platform:

Knowledge-Based Education – We oppose the teaching of Higher Order Thinking Skills (HOTS) (values clarification), critical thinking skills and similar programs that are simply a relabeling of Outcome-Based Education (OBE) (mastery learning) which focus on behavior modification and have the purpose of challenging the student’s fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/post/texas-gop-rejects-critical-thinking-skills-really/2012/07/08/gJQAHNpFXW_blog.html

is right!

longship

(40,416 posts)
3. "What are you doing with a biology book?"
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 09:14 PM
Sep 2012

And you want to take physics next year????

No child of mine is going to take science in high school!!!
<== obligatory Poe avoidance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe's_law

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
7. Yes I have met parents like this.
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 09:23 PM
Sep 2012

Don't want their kids to go to school, because school is BAD. Don't want them to go to school and learn a skill, just to control them. Want them to feel guilty for breathing and being alive. Don't want them to ask questions.

I asked one guy why he wanted to cripple his 3 boys by not sending them to school, why did he want them to be ditch diggers instead of having a skill and a good job? I said it was just as bad as if he had broken their spines and they were in a wheelchair for the rest of their lives.

He had no answer. I told him it was evil to break a child's spirit. Every time I tried to talk to him he got a grimace on his face like he was in extreme pain and didn't want to hear what I had to say.

His kids are all teenagers now and they completely disrespect him because he has no solutions to anything. Only negativity.

The youngest boy, 12 at the time, got excited b/c he met my hubby and raved to his father that he had met a REAL PHYSICIST. Daddy was no doubt jealous. Daddy takes books away from the kids. I gave the kid copies of COSMOS and THE DEMON-HAUNTED WORLD to read. The two older boys are big enough to beat hell out of daddy, and they have thrown him against the wall and called him a "sorry son of a bitch" for hitting their mother. She is now in prison for a long time, so she's out of the picture.

I hope all 3 of the boys get the hell away from him ASAP.


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