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Mrs. Krassenstein
@HKrassenstein
BREAKING: The Trump Administrations Wilbur Ross defies a federal judges order and says the US Census will end early despite the court order.
Thats the very definition of Fascism.
dhol82
(9,353 posts)triron
(22,030 posts)Laelth
(32,017 posts)Nobody? Right. Thats how.
-Laelth
groundloop
(11,532 posts)Oh wait. NEVER MIND.
Norbert
(6,043 posts)dhol82
(9,353 posts)Lucky Luciano
(11,267 posts)blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)kurtcagle
(1,604 posts)And yes, you can be imprisoned for it.
c-rational
(2,600 posts)Boogiemack
(1,406 posts)an ordinary citizen defies a judge.
triron
(22,030 posts)PSPS
(13,633 posts)procon
(15,805 posts)their slogan?
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Tribalceltic
(1,000 posts)I feel like #Brokeahantas is Trying to break as many laws as he can!
ooky
(8,933 posts)It will have to be redone next year.
Takket
(21,699 posts)this cabal will fudge the numbers to undercount blue states and shift the house of reps to more red states.
I'd rather see Biden have a crack at it.
in the meantime, Ross should be arrested.
ooky
(8,933 posts)As long as the courts go along with it.
moonscape
(4,676 posts)Celerity
(43,731 posts)Trump will probably do if he gets a decision he disagrees with. We are hurtling down the road to anarchy if shit breaks the wrong way.
https://www.census.gov/history/pdf/Article_1_Section_2.pdf
ooky
(8,933 posts)the ideological make up of the Court. But, the Constitution does also provide a strong argument for the redo. So if Wilbur Ross is allowed to get away with defying a court order I don't really see a better way to fight back.
That said, I don't see any judge sitting still for what Ross is trying to pull.
Celerity
(43,731 posts)We are headed to the extreme and raw edges of the entire system and the rule of law.
ooky
(8,933 posts)order the arrest and send a U.S. marshall after him. (?)
Celerity
(43,731 posts)Attorney General, who unfortunately is, at present, this piece of dogshit:
ooky
(8,933 posts)That should be fun to watch.
If he's willing to do that, then you are right, there is nobody to enforce it.
Should be interesting because I don't expect the judge to do nothing.
Celerity
(43,731 posts)level of good faith.
For instance, if (this is all extremely hypothetical) if the House and the Senate passed a bill stating chattel slavery for non-whites was legal again, and the POTUS signed it, then obviously it would instantly be challenged in federal court as violating the 13th amendment.
BUT, when it goes to the SCOTUS (lets say a 6-1 or 7-1 or 8-1 crazed RW SCOTUS, as Breyer is replaced with a RWer or dies and Sotomayor is laid low by her chronic type 1 diabetes and if a Rethug Senate, they will never again (this part is NOT hypothetical) confirm a Dem SCOTUS nominee as long as they control the Senate) and they say, too bad, so sad, the law doesn't violate the Constitutional at all, so 'enslave away, the fields await!' for people like me racially.
Who is going to stop it via CONSTITUTIONAL means, as long as they slavers hold one part of Congress (no laws to end it can be passed then) and the POTUS?
Hell, a law could be passed that ends it, but the slavers will run it up to the SCOTUS, who say now that ENDING the slave-legalising law is unconstitutional.
there will obviously be insane violence, and resistance, etc
but unless the US military performs a coup d'état (they likely would, BUT that is also the death of the union and the republic that emanates from it), we are fucked and off to a millions-killing civil war.
The constitutional process is far from perfect, as we all have seen. This presidency and this Republican party together have exposed those rocks like never before. We could very well be seeing a dying republic. Hopefully we sweep the election and try to hang on. Not much more we can do.
DeminPennswoods
(15,294 posts)dixiechiken1
(2,113 posts)That was my first thought, too! LOL
CousinIT
(9,269 posts)pansypoo53219
(21,005 posts)Snarkoleptic
(6,002 posts)Ross is former chairman of the Bank of Cyprus, which (some say) is a haven for Russian money laundering.
spanone
(135,923 posts)this entire administration is nothing but a crime family
LOCK THESE MOTHERFUCKERS UP
Midnight Writer
(21,845 posts)soothsayer
(38,601 posts)Midnight Writer
(21,845 posts)soothsayer
(38,601 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,473 posts)beyond shelf life in the 1980s
panader0
(25,816 posts)He is in deep with all the Russian stuff. The Paradise Papers:
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/nov/05/trump-commerce-secretary-wilbur-ross-business-links-putin-family-paradise-papers